New insight on Almighty Apkallu (and other NMs)

[Titanss]

just throwing this out there, what if the "being left alone" has something to do with the regular apkallu's on the boat as well, as in feeding them fish and not killing them

..here we go again

[Nakecat]

I have seen Proteus 2 times while i was riding the boat to Einherjar. Both time there were like 10+ ppls on the boat.

First time it didn't pop right away and my brother was fishing on the boat. All the suddent it just pop out of no where, we were totally unprepare and wipe. We only had 4 ppls in party, one Thf, War, Blm(me), and Whm. It Hundredfist all of us in less than 5 mins.

Second time i was alone and i just open the door and it's hitting my face >.>;

Anyway, ever since then i haven't not seen it pop again because most of time there were just a few ppls on the boat (3 ~5).

[Max™]

You would need a min of 3 people to tally the white->nash (one to sit at white docks, and a person on each outbound/inbound trip) Might as well take it to 4 and watch both docks.

Only need to tally the W > N trip, if both trips affected each other then AA would probably pop more often, one would think.

[Spekkio]

if proteus has popped two times in a single run (2 testimonials above to confirm this behavior) then is it possible that the two spawns can not be likened to each other? i'm coming to suspect that proteus's pop conditions do not in any way reflect AA's making testing on proteus a red herring. mmmm... red herring... very tasty!

[Nakecat]

if proteus has popped two times in a single run (2 testimonials above to confirm this behavior) then is it possible that the two spawns can not be likened to each other? i'm coming to suspect that proteus's pop conditions do not in any way reflect AA's making testing on proteus a red herring. mmmm... red herring... very tasty!

Just to clear thing a bit. i didn't mean it pop 2x in same trip. i meant i have seen total 2 time in the game. the reason i mention 2x was because i did notice both time there were a lot of ppls on the boat while it popped.

[Izzy]

Just to clear thing a bit. i didn't mean it pop 2x in same trip. i meant i have seen total 2 time in the game. the reason i mention 2x was because i did notice both time there were a lot of ppls on the boat while it popped.

Obviously having more people on the boat is going to mean more chance of pushing the rider quota over the limit.

[Bozo]

Just to clear thing a bit. i didn't mean it pop 2x in same trip. i meant i have seen total 2 time in the game. the reason i mention 2x was because i did notice both time there were a lot of ppls on the boat while it popped.

I see Proteus pretty often with as little as 1-2 people, the "x amount of tickets bought = NM" theory is making more sense. (in my mind atleast)

[Hanyoko]

Only need to tally the W > N trip, if both trips affected each other then AA would probably pop more often, one would think.

The 2 boat riders are to ensure you have a trustworthy spectator to see if proteus spawns. Unless your going to have someone warp and reenter the docks and just do white->nash over and over and under and over.

4 could have you counting nash->white and white->nash. So if this theoretical "millionth customer" is correct you will have the baseline to try and get AA.


Dangit... If this is the same as the "Millionth customer" then i wonder if Mad Bomber is the same way.... Oh, well first AA then MB.

[Xno Kappa]

just throwing this out there, what if the "being left alone" has something to do with the regular apkallu's on the boat as well, as in feeding them fish and not killing them

I'm sorry but LOL.


Also, it probably doesn't have to be a ticket-buy like someone else said. There isn't much evidence of SE using cross-zone interaction outside a few instances so it could very well just be the server counting the characters that have zoned onto the boat. That we DO know SE does all the time in one essence or another.

[drwaffles]

Although it's rare for people to ride the boat back to Whitegate, people do do it (sometimes just to see if they can somehow pop AA). So one would assume that, if the pop condition is indeed linked to a quota of boat-riders similar to the frequently-popped Proteus, AA would have been seen by someone over the course of the last year or more. More concrete evidence would be the fact that the people that tracked it with ArtMoney found that it hadn't popped at all on most servers within the last however many weeks since the previous maintenance.

Personally I think the quota theory is wrong. I'm pretty sure AA is broken and the only time it can ever possibly spawn is right when the servers come up (as it did on Unicorn).

[Draggy]

Food for thought about Proteus: I HAVE seen him double spawn. That is, he popped, my ls alliance killed him (boat to nash for einherjar), then he popped again (on the same boat ride) about 2 mins before we docked. Not enough time to get him down, but it was really unexpected.

This has happened to us before, Einer group killed him on the boat and then he respawned a few minutes after and we re-killed him

[NeoReign]

Didn't people check if AA spawned through that memory program? Art Money? I can't remember the name but I remember reading that some servers showed it not popping for months and some showed it popping right after maint. Either the info given was wrong or the sever maint does not reset counter.

Just throwing out some ideas. maybe that program could help with this new theory.

[drwaffles]

Someone has me on ignore list clearly, lol.

[Priran]

Although it's rare for people to ride the boat back to Whitegate, people do do it (sometimes just to see if they can somehow pop AA). So one would assume that, if the pop condition is indeed linked to a quota of boat-riders similar to the frequently-popped Proteus, AA would have been seen by someone over the course of the last year or more. More concrete evidence would be the fact that the people that tracked it with ArtMoney found that it hadn't popped at all on most servers within the last however many weeks since the previous maintenance.

Personally I think the quota theory is wrong. I'm pretty sure AA is broken and the only time it can ever possibly spawn is right when the servers come up (as it did on Unicorn).

there have been sightings and there is at least one person with a birdman cape so it's not like no one has seen or killed him, it's just that no one knows how to pop him or is willing to tell

[Spekkio]

weren't there a storm of multiple pops that showed up all at once then vanished again? this has lead me to conjecture that it's based on something relating to the date, be that seasonal, based on the year, some funky number games with the dates, or what have you.

[Izzy]

weren't there a storm of multiple pops that showed up all at once then vanished again? this has lead me to conjecture that it's based on something relating to the date, be that seasonal, based on the year, some funky number games with the dates, or what have you.

Or that a shit ton of people started looking for it again, thus increasing the number of boat rides, thus increasing the amount of times it popped. The season/day/weather thing has been beat to death pretty bad.

[altwight]

Or that a shit ton of people started looking for it again, thus increasing the number of boat rides, thus increasing the amount of times it popped. The season/day/weather thing has been beat to death pretty bad.

agree with this

[Corrderio]

I've always wondered if you needed VERY high hate in order to pop him. Since his name is Almighty Apkallu, I keep thinking he's godlike and since you've been killing Apakallu he's pissed and looking for blood >_>

It'd sorta fit with SE's "He doesn't like being lonely" thing.

[Ramses]

I've always wondered if you needed VERY high hate in order to pop him. Since his name is Almighty Apkallu, I keep thinking he's godlike and since you've been killing Apakallu he's pissed and looking for blood >_>

It'd sorta fit with SE's "He doesn't like being lonely" thing.

Doubt his name matters since the developers didn't even know that was his name at fanfest last year. There really is no evidence that his pop depends on how many people ride the boat, it is just a theory that hasn't been disproved.

[Corrderio]

Doubt his name matters since the developers didn't even know that was his name at fanfest last year. There really is no evidence that his pop depends on how many people ride the boat, it is just a theory that hasn't been disproved.

True I suppose.

I don't think the amount of people matter since others have claimed they seen him with like... 2-3 others on the boat from Nashmau => Whitegate. However I brought like 10 ppl one day and rode the boat for up to 2 hours trying for him.