ZNM Solo Info

[yrpaine]

did cheezehoarder last night, and it didn't lose hate. cheezehoarder can only conditionally lose hate, if you get him to where he's dropping bombs and runs away, and you run in another direction and down stairs i've seen him de-agro a few times that way.

[Sady]

Are you sure that you can clear rage on the ZNMs? I really don't know about T1-3 raging, but T4 don't unrage when they go unclaimed and regen.

This is most definitely false (unless there was some glitch on your part or im somehow misunderstanding you).

We undoubtedly raged Sarameya a few weeks ago (it started resisting all forms of damage, resist dispel 100%, normal hits for 500+ on plds, 1k+ crits on backliners, etc). I dont recall how long it took but 1hr doesnt sound unreasonable, regardless we wiped and let it regen back to full and gave it another attempt. This time we took it down no problem and were rewarded with a delicious PW trigger for our efforts and lost EXP.

[Callisto]

We managed to use the party break + zoning trick to reset a raged Nuhn when doing it lowman. I wouldn't say it neccesarily hits harder when raged, but it sure as hell resists phsyical damage and spells a lot more, and it got stuck in Leeching Current spam mode for about 30 minutes while raged, got kind of messy.

[Fingerspitz]

What would be a good way to lowman Anantaboga (the t2 cerb dragon)? My thought was to hold it near the zone as rdm/nin while a blm friend nuked and zoned. Probably try to keep it silenced to avoid horde lullaby since it won't be using tp much anyway.

[Callisto]

iirc silencing him is a bad idea as he'll spam a pretty strong Body Slam. I don't think it aggros, I think keeping DoT spells up and getting hit with Virelai to reset hate/aggro would work easily enough.

[rog]

cheeshoarder losing hate isn't new. i stopped doing it a long time ago because of that. of the ~10 i killed, 3-4 of them deaggroed atleast once, and all but one of those ended up being stolen/depopping.

and after taking almost 6 hours to solo armed gears, they absolutely do rage (before rage it took around 3 hours, with no elemental merits so all nukes were atleast 1/2, usually 1/4 resisted).

rage for armed gears is

[Halion]

I read the thing about cheesehoarder deaggroing and it makes me nervous when he runs off for a long time but it never happened to me. I don't know if solo versus duo would differ - it shouldn't but who knows so just for informational purposes I was in a party. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...uins_Nyzul.jpg
When he runs away we stand right in the middle of the porter that's at the same place as the E on this map. Adds deaggro in the doorway CH has always stayed claimed and come back to us.
If you do not have +movement on pull the adds will destroy you and might also mess up something else.

[Callisto]

I read the thing about cheesehoarder deaggroing and it makes me nervous when he runs off for a long time but it never happened to me. I don't know if solo versus duo would differ - it shouldn't but who knows so just for informational purposes I was in a party. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...uins_Nyzul.jpg
When he runs away we stand right in the middle of the porter that's at the same place as the E on this map. Adds deaggro in the doorway CH has always stayed claimed and come back to us.
If you do not have +movement on pull the adds will destroy you and might also mess up something else.

Same here, though to be on the safe side I'd usually position a mule near the halfway point between his spawn and the telepad to keep an eye on claim/reclaim if neccesary.

[Ambir]

What would be a good way to lowman Anantaboga (the t2 cerb dragon)? My thought was to hold it near the zone as rdm/nin while a blm friend nuked and zoned. Probably try to keep it silenced to avoid horde lullaby since it won't be using tp much anyway.

Bind it, gravity it, spread out and nuke it. It might get lucky and one shot someone every now and again, but it hardly ever even chases anyone too far before stopping to sing some long song.

[dem0nfr0g]

While I have not done it, I am pretty sure Wulgaru would be an easy solo on my COR. Water Cards were hitting him for 300-350 per shot, and that was when he was @ 100%. I am not sure why my cards were hitting completely unresisted, but I'll take it.

[Ruin]

Adding Iriz Ima T2 Marid to an easy solo for RDM/NIN did it today in 50mins

[Massimo]

A retarded monkey with Dia and sanction refresh could solo Iriz Ima, it would just take a while.

Really stupidly easy, just take it to the tower and kite it around while you DoT/nuke it. Not that much HP honestly.

[Toksyuryel]

You just have to appreciate the irony of a thread about ZNM solo strategies being started by a guy named "Ruin". SE needs to fix the rage mechanic for these things if this bullshit is still possible.

[Thorny]

You just have to appreciate the irony of a thread about ZNM solo strategies being started by a guy named "Ruin". SE needs to fix the rage mechanic for these things if this bullshit is still possible.

Yea, god forbid people solo NMs that are pretty deadish now. Being able to solo them made it much more convenient, you could farm up a t4 set sans a few t3s and just ask ls to help with the last couple fights instead of having to run everyone all over hell to do the lower ones.

[rath]

What would be a good way to lowman Anantaboga (the t2 cerb dragon)? My thought was to hold it near the zone as rdm/nin while a blm friend nuked and zoned. Probably try to keep it silenced to avoid horde lullaby since it won't be using tp much anyway.

Don't silence him, it unlocks his use of TP moves and makes him worse. We have killed him with rdm/whm and blu/thf. It can take a while, but nothing difficult if you have poison pots to keep from being slept.

[Toksyuryel]

Yea, god forbid people solo NMs that are pretty deadish now. Being able to solo them made it much more convenient, you could farm up a t4 set sans a few t3s and just ask ls to help with the last couple fights instead of having to run everyone all over hell to do the lower ones.

The problem is they take fucking hours to solo them while actual groups that might want to do them have to wait. That is what causes the friction.

[Thorny]

I don't know about your server, but even for the first couple weeks when ZNMs were all the rage I never ran into other people when I was soloing them. Even then, most people soloing will gladly accept help from a group that doesn't want to wait for them. If you don't want to help them kill it faster, then you have no right to complain since they might not have other people willing to come out.

[Toksyuryel]

I don't know about your server, but even for the first couple weeks when ZNMs were all the rage I never ran into other people when I was soloing them. Even then, most people soloing will gladly accept help from a group that doesn't want to wait for them. If you don't want to help them kill it faster, then you have no right to complain since they might not have other people willing to come out.

People on my server are for the most part too distrustful to do something like that. The soloers will assume that the group wants to take their items and decline assistance.

[Ruin]

You just have to appreciate the irony of a thread about ZNM solo strategies being started by a guy named "Ruin". SE needs to fix the rage mechanic for these things if this bullshit is still possible.

Wow, obviously you are a DRG only or someshit and cant attempt to solo urself. Otherwise you would see the benefit to doing most of the easier tiers yourself if you ever wanna get anywhere in ZNM..

[Ruin]

People on my server are for the most part too distrustful to do something like that. The soloers will assume that the group wants to take their items and decline assistance.

As for this, SE made a very simple way of letting you be in control of the drops .... If you were offered help while solo'ing BE THE PARTY LEADER and invite the helpers, how hard is that?