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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    awesome, thank you. ill work on that right now. respecced and got my new glyphs. Thank you again.

    (random funny aside: bought bracers of swift death, so my rogue has all these blues/greens from quests and... BiS bracers rofl. Just kinda funny to me. )
    Before I realized how easy it was to pug raids I was basically quest geared and had all the good buyable AH epics since I had money just sitting there. Nimble climbers belt or death-warmed belt, ice striker cloak, 2 trollwoven pieces could all be fairly cheap and are good enough to wear while you upgrade other pieces with badges and get the few good epics in heroics. Although with toc and htoc those AH pieces may be too easily replaced to bother buying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knyghtmayre View Post
    Mutilate outperformed my combat build by miles whenever I first hit 80, since then I just dropped my combat spec and went Mut raid/Mut PVP. Today someone brought up the point that I could bring in 4-5k DPS with combat maces in raids etc. I can't figure out if that's bullshit or if I should just stick with my specs. Currently I'm at 3k-3.5k dps on bosses, with Spinal/Titansteel. Been running ToC everyday to get rondel as I see it as a huge upgrade, but it won't fucking drop. What do I do? :<
    You consider using the e-j spreadsheet? It's a pretty good predictor of your maximum theoretical DPS, except for fights where conventional DPS cycles are frequently thrown out the window (faction champs, Heroic Anub, etc.)

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    Is Resto Druid T9 4 set worth it? I'm looking at it thinking most of the crits would be overheals but it gives me an excuse to spend my 150+ badges since my moonkin is done with T9 set.

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    Heroic Anub (25):

    So, I'm kinda curious what everyone else is doing for this fight.

    Are you using 2x add tanks? Do you have the rogues leaving the group at all to help misdirect mobs? Do you guys have the entire raid stacking so Tricks>FoK hits all 4 adds?

    We are having a little bit of trouble with this fight, so I'm wondering what everyone else is doing.

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    Doing TOC it seems the strategy is most split on the twins and their shields. Does anyone know for certain if you do reduced dmg to THE SHIELD if you are of the wrong colour? Even if you do reduced dmg it seems the time spent changing colours loses you more dmg but it would be good to know anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    Heroic Anub (25):

    So, I'm kinda curious what everyone else is doing for this fight.

    Are you using 2x add tanks? Do you have the rogues leaving the group at all to help misdirect mobs? Do you guys have the entire raid stacking so Tricks>FoK hits all 4 adds?

    We are having a little bit of trouble with this fight, so I'm wondering what everyone else is doing.

    The "simple" solution is 1 tank with full avoidance. I believe those adds are 82, so I think it's 101.6%. That, plus ~3k block value = 0 damage.

    Without that, yeah, you need 2.

    As far as the rest I haven't actually tried twins or anub on heroic 25, so I won't try to give any "meaningful advice" that might just screw you up worse heh.


    Quote Originally Posted by Blarg View Post
    Doing TOC it seems the strategy is most split on the twins and their shields. Does anyone know for certain if you do reduced dmg to THE SHIELD if you are of the wrong colour? Even if you do reduced dmg it seems the time spent changing colours loses you more dmg but it would be good to know anyway.
    Been having that discussion lately too, heh. Best way to figure it out is prob just check log on normal, since combat text only shows it as absorb.

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    I believe it's 75% dmg done with same aura, 150% with opposite, but don't quote me. That's why i have my crew tank them near the portals they spawn by instead of together, makes getting your original color back after dps'ing the shield down much quicker. Just tag the portal as you run back, no hesitation.

    That's normal mode though, if theres something extra on heroic im missing forgive me. just tryin to help.

    Btw, should have ranged in back being "soakers" grabbing all the balls in the arena anyways. shouldn't matter much because they can move around and get to dps quicker than melee. Ranged does most of the damage in the fight in my strat too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    I believe it's 75% dmg done with same aura, 150% with opposite, but don't quote me. That's why i have my crew tank them near the portals they spawn by instead of together, makes getting your original color back after dps'ing the shield down much quicker. Just tag the portal as you run back, no hesitation.

    That's normal mode though, if theres something extra on heroic im missing forgive me. just tryin to help.

    Btw, should have hunters in everywhere being "soakers" grabbing all the balls in the arena anyways. shouldn't matter much because hunters can move around and get to dps quicker than melee. hunters does most of the damage in the fight in my strat too.
    fixed it for you.

    the casters seems to bitch alot when they're assigned this position because they cant cast and move around, where as hunters can.

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    lately thats been the case, yeah. but for quite a while we were mage heavy. /shrug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    I believe it's 75% dmg done with same aura, 150% with opposite, but don't quote me. That's why i have my crew tank them near the portals they spawn by instead of together, makes getting your original color back after dps'ing the shield down much quicker. Just tag the portal as you run back, no hesitation.
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    Yes, that's the dmg values for the twins themselves but do you know for SURE if the shields share the same bonuses/penalties?

    Half the time the pugs go with everyone (except tanks and possibly few others) the same colour. This works really well if you pick the colour that the first 2 abilities are for and then you can just swap right after them 2 and don't have to switch targets for shield( Plus telling people to change colours in vent is easy when everyone is the same one, saves the retards switching into wrong colour for vortex.) If you have to have all your dps change targets that's when the shield gives the most problems and half the people say you need to change colours. Since I'm a melee even if I'm close to a portal there is often 2-5 seconds that are needed to change and make it to the other guy since positioning isn't always perfect, this just takes too much dps time away from the shield and I lose any of the orb buff stacks.

    Something I sometimes do but it confuses people is whenever you have to change colours to just change your target, since while waiting for vortex to end I can manage to pick up a bunch of orbs and might as well make use of it.

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    Does HH not drop something similar to the tankard o terror that brewfest did? Similar as a 171dps wep or something else i226 level. I managed to make some good gold buying the tankards when there were a bunch of them and sold them afterwards. I wanted to wait longer to sell them with less competition but I was afraid HH would drop another good wep which would reduce demand on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blarg View Post
    Does HH not drop something similar to the tankard o terror that brewfest did? Similar as a 171dps wep or something else i226 level. I managed to make some good gold buying the tankards when there were a bunch of them and sold them afterwards. I wanted to wait longer to sell them with less competition but I was afraid HH would drop another good wep which would reduce demand on it.
    Nothing boe. Only weapon he drops is sword and it's not even *that* good a sword.

    btw I found out the other day that DWing tankards looks ridiculous lol.

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    The sword is not good at all unless you can't get better than naxx25 weap. It's theoretically better than them since it's 2.7, but it's only i200 so it's right about equal, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blarg View Post
    Doing TOC it seems the strategy is most split on the twins and their shields. Does anyone know for certain if you do reduced dmg to THE SHIELD if you are of the wrong colour? Even if you do reduced dmg it seems the time spent changing colours loses you more dmg but it would be good to know anyway.
    You do reduced damage to the shields as well as the twins of the same color as yourself. We usually have all of the melee white and only the soakers as black, and use bloodlust whenever the white shield goes up.

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    How do I get some expertise so my druid can use Death's Choice + Greatness instead of that ToC10 expertise trinket?

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...+Hand&n=Bonjwa Druid for reference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezzimal View Post
    How do I get some expertise so my druid can use Death's Choice + Greatness instead of that ToC10 expertise trinket?

    The World of Warcraft Armory Druid for reference
    Replace some of your gems with expertise gems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaika View Post
    Replace some of your gems with expertise gems
    how dare you say that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezzimal View Post
    How do I get some expertise so my druid can use Death's Choice + Greatness instead of that ToC10 expertise trinket?

    The World of Warcraft Armory Druid for reference
    You don't. Keep your agility gems, use the greatness card. Expertise isn't that hugely important for a cat and you already get a free 10 from talents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    how dare you say that
    Hey, he asked HOW he gets expertise lol, not whether or not he should

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    For the person asking about twins-heroic:

    We have everyone go dark except for 8 soakers and whoever is tanking Lightbane. During dark shields, soakers basically focus on DPS'ing the shield away by blowing all their DPS CD's while your shamans pop Bloodlust/Heroism. Everyone should be DPS'ing darkbane for this, including all your still-dark-essence DPS. This should pretty easily nuke the shield, and light shield is trivial with that many DPS as dark.

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