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  1. #2841
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    I have another noob question that I am not going to put in the form of a question:

    Someone explain to me how "LoS" works.

    I understand the concept of line of sight, but people use "LoS" like it's a verb, and I don't understand what they're conveying.

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    Make it so the mob has to come to you to cast on you. If you LoS a mob, then they can't cast on you, so they will come to you to attempt to cast on you, so it makes it easier to gather the mobs.

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    A practical example: when you come down the stairs after Skadi in UP, you kill the group at the bottom of the stairs, and then there's that 3 pack on the other side of that little hallway. The tank snags one at range and then ducks just around the corner of that short hall; done properly, the two casters in that 3 pack will halt spellcasts and come running down the hall with the melee until they can see the tank, at which point all the mobs are comfortably in range for aoe threat and damage.

    If you're a healer it's good to recognize when a tank is trying to do this so you don't get aggro before they've all made it up to the tank.

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    I'm going to have to start paying closer attention to walls and obstacles then. That sort of thing never crossed my mind.

    Although, it does make sense now that my guild told me to stand in the inner corner of the camp spot where the HoR mobs are fought.

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    In a random last night some guy said there was an addon to extend your occulus lockout. I couldn't find it on curse...

    anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by solsirt View Post
    In a random last night some guy said there was an addon to extend your occulus lockout. I couldn't find it on curse...

    anyone?
    http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-a...om-oculus.aspx

    Took 5 seconds to find using google.

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    Doesn't really do anything, unfortunately :<

    I don't mind Occulus - your group members could completely suck at drakes and still clear it quickly now with the nerfs. What does bother me is that whenever I see the Occulus loading screen I know a good majority of my group has either alt-f4ed or will drop the group as soon as they load in.

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    People who skip h.oculus because they think it's a long, difficult dungeon or something fucking suck at this game.

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    I rather do Occulus than CoS: Strat. IF you want LONG, talk about going through every single event in CoS.

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    Even CoS can be done in 25 min start to finish if people aren't doing shitty DPS. I know that WoW encourages short attention spans but Jesus Christ--there isn't a single Heroic in existence that takes longer than 35 minutes if your group isn't made of 5 bads.

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    I think people are more reacting to the bad opinion of Oculus than anything else. I've only had one random group that failed to steamroll the thing, though, and anyone who has trouble with the last boss now that dragons scale with gear is probably doing something stupid like stripping. Even then, the boss is nothing complex.

    The lockout thing probably helps a tiny bit, but I haven't ended up in Oculus much at all. I find myself suffering Culling of Stratholme and the Old Kingdom significantly more. They all have enough emblems per minute that I just plow through it, collect my shards, and drop out.

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    I hate Violet Hold and Culling of Strat the most. They're the heroics you cannot possibly speed up at all.

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    cos you can. aside from when you're waiting for arthas to get to the building.

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    I generally use the Arthas speech as time to go to the bathroom or make a sandwich or something. Violet Hold is so short that the delay after a boss kill is something I just ignore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek View Post
    cos you can. aside from when you're waiting for arthas to get to the building.
    You have to wait for each wave...which is 90% of the instance...

    The way I tank them, or the way my friend tanks them is doing 2-5 pulls at once...you can't do that in CoS...

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    I don't mind occ if i've got at least 1 other person with me that isn't a complete fuck up. I got it again last night, only to have two idiots fly off into the sunset wondering where to go. Having your tank and/or healer not know which platform to go to (or clearly not even looking at a map) sucks.

    for CoS and VH I just wish you could skip the breaks, and of course not have waves being as far away from each other as possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by solsirt View Post
    I don't mind occ if i've got at least 1 other person with me that isn't a complete fuck up. I got it again last night, only to have two idiots fly off into the sunset wondering where to go. Having your tank and/or healer not know which platform to go to (or clearly not even looking at a map) sucks.

    for CoS and VH I just wish you could skip the breaks, and of course not have waves being as far away from each other as possible
    We had a group last night with a tank that didn't ever do occ before. So me and sister both grabbed green drakes and pretty much solo'd the instance lol.

    I've never done green before, and I've never done double green before. It was the most fun I've ever had in the instance and I'm now more willing to do that instance than more than half of the others.

    HoL/HoS? Fuck you random que for giving me those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    We had a group last night with a tank that didn't ever do occ before. So me and sister both grabbed green drakes and pretty much solo'd the instance lol.

    I've never done green before, and I've never done double green before. It was the most fun I've ever had in the instance and I'm now more willing to do that instance than more than half of the others.

    HoL/HoS? Fuck you random que for giving me those.
    Oculus is good when you have atleast 1 other competent person with you, and like you i'm more than willing to do an oculus over a shitty HoL or HoS, im actually staggered by the ammount of fail that happens on Krystallus everytime i go in there.

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    I got ridiculously lucky and got into a HoL w/ a tank and three dps from the same guild that were geared in 258/264 shit. I think the run lasted somewhere around 8-10 minutes. I told the tank to never stop pulling and we ended up having all the trash from one boss and bringing it to the next boss. Most fun I've had in the game in a long time. Pretty sure we never left combat until it was over.

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    I've had one or two instance runs where we literally beat out the queue debuff. Mercifully, it gets removed if you win.

    As for Oculus drakes, green really is the most fun, I think. People really overlook the huge DPS reduction that Touch the Nightmare causes, too. Any competent group that staggers their various specials, like Touch the Nightmare and Time Stop, should not even sweat on that boss.

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