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[Boyiee]

Me and sister started 2 new alts together to duo to 80, Draenei mage and shaman. I'll probably race change the mage at 80 or something to human, but for now I'm draenei just to get through the starting area together.

My question is:

We have leveled tons of humans, and know the area better. Now that we are 10+, we want to go to the human area. Will she lose out on any shaman quests or totem quests by leveling in elwynn/westfall//lakeshire/duskwood? There is a shaman trainer I think in stormwind, but are we going to be forced to level in the draenei/kalimdor zones due to any important quests?

[Korietsu]

Paladin ;\ Halp ; - ;

My question is how do you have 3.5K gear score and can't tank? I've only got a 2045 score in naxx 10 gear. http://wow-heroes.com/index.php?zone...&name=Allerion Is the addon that inflated?

I'm also going to say, drop the def cap and pot/flask up instead. If you have that better sword suited to DPS, then use it so you can hold threat and make sure it stays on you. A crit isn't going to destroy you in heroics. My second suggestion is to go as an alt spec to snatch gear, or buy gear for your tank through the AH. Plenty of stuff on the AH that you can snag for cheap to make an effective tank.

[SamanosukeShiva]

3.5k? i dont think anyone can reach that high yet unless wearing full ICC25 heroic gears

[Boyiee]

The 3.5k he's talking about is using the gearscore addon, which rates gear much higher.

A presently-high gearscore with the addon is around 6k+, whereas full 232, mixed with some 245's, is around 5k.

Badge gear and non-toc gear would net you around 4500.

[Gulkeeva]

imo, gearscore is sort of useless at this early stage of 3.3 where epics are raining from the sky. I've seen people in a full set of t9 and various other badge stuff do about 1.5K dps in a heroic... they could be 4.5K gearscore but they might as well be doing dps of something near 1K gear score.

[ASG]

So I just got my Jewelcrafting to 450. Which recipes should I be looking to get besides the new epic gems?

[Tricen]

Uh, just the new epic gems lol. Get the basic 16's of stuff. STR is usually highest or something.

[Jodwahh]

Look at the ah and see what gems are the biggest profit margin and get them. Also get the recipes for whatever class/spec you play and the dragon eye cuts you may need.

[Boyiee]

So I just got my Jewelcrafting to 450. Which recipes should I be looking to get besides the new epic gems?

I just hit 450 this week as well. This was my order: (note, I'm a warrior dual specced prot).

Bold Cardinal
JC only Dragon's eye Bold Cardinal for myself
Solid Majestic Zircon
Reckless Ametrine
Purified Dreadstone
Runed Cardinal
Delicate Cardinal
Brilliant King's Amber

These seem to sell the quickest and have highest profit margin from the uncut gems (if you are buying uncuts, cutting, then reselling)

These gems, almost in order of what I got, are the most popular gems, so they move the quickest from your bags.

Think the actual order of popularity is: Runed > Solid > Bold > Delicate > Purified > Reckless > Brilliant.

I'll probably get Enduring Eye of Zul next since I'm sitting on 10ish uncut ones.

[Izzy]

Gulkeeva...HELP ME WITH PVE HUNTER Q_Q

I can't figure this out for the life of me. I have a 5000 gear score Hunter, and I can't for the life of me pull more than 3.5k DPS. What am I doing wrong? I tried Marksman and Survival. I feel so fail

[Jodwahh]

In the absense of gulk and me reading this first I'll try to help

Priority is Rapid Fire > Kill Shot > Explosive > Black Arrow > Serpent > Steady. Glyph Serpent, Explosive and Steady. Minor glpyhs are of no matter really, pick what you want. Using that priority you open Xplo > Black > Serpent > Aimed > Xplo > x3 steady and shit should be dead. I'm assuming you know hit caps and shit so I won't go into that. As Surv stack agi above everything. On anything that involves more than 1 target switch multi in for steady. Armoury Jodwahh arathor eu for my talents, had to spec into replen so I'm not the best best dps spec but it gives utility to the raid. Anything you want to know specificly about?

[Gulkeeva]

Gulkeeva...HELP ME WITH PVE HUNTER Q_Q

I can't figure this out for the life of me. I have a 5000 gear score Hunter, and I can't for the life of me pull more than 3.5k DPS. What am I doing wrong? I tried Marksman and Survival. I feel so fail

gear score doesn't help at all at determining dps really... (especially not in 3.3)

as MM, you need ALOT of Armor pen, if you are below like... 45% with no trinket, its best to go surv. You'll need like... 60-70%+ armor pen with no trinket for decent dps also.

for surv is mainly like... crit and AP, getting trinkets that boost either helps alot. That and as the previous person said.. rotation of shots helps alot... also if your high latency/low FPS, it will hurt dps alot.

Also don't look at dps in 5mans or raid trash mobs, but raid bosses it'll help you see better what dps you are putting out actually (and not what a spreadsheet says you are probably going to put out)

[[Cookies]]

Gulkeeva...HELP ME WITH PVE HUNTER Q_Q

I can't figure this out for the life of me. I have a 5000 gear score Hunter, and I can't for the life of me pull more than 3.5k DPS. What am I doing wrong? I tried Marksman and Survival. I feel so fail

You're doing something wrong. I can't tell you what unless you give us an armory link and your rotations.

gear score doesn't help at all at determining dps really... (especially not in 3.3)

It's useful to know what sort of dps you're aiming for. 3.5k is really really low for 5000 gs.

as MM, you need ALOT of Armor pen, if you are below like... 45% with no trinket, its best to go surv. You'll need like... 60-70%+ armor pen with no trinket for decent dps also.

Not true, I have around 29% arpen at the moment, I don't have an arpen trinket and MM is better than SV. I'm pulling off 6k dps in heroics and 5k+ in 10m raids (depends on buffs, single target ofc).

Priority is Rapid Fire > Kill Shot > Explosive > Black Arrow > Serpent > Steady.

Multi (or aimed if you're specced into it) comes before Steady Shot.

Glyph Serpent, Explosive and Steady.

Kill Shot is better than both Steady and Serpent. Personally i'd use Serpent/Explosive/Kill.

[Izzy]

gear score doesn't help at all at determining dps really... (especially not in 3.3)

as MM, you need ALOT of Armor pen, if you are below like... 45% with no trinket, its best to go surv. You'll need like... 60-70%+ armor pen with no trinket for decent dps also.

for surv is mainly like... crit and AP, getting trinkets that boost either helps alot. That and as the previous person said.. rotation of shots helps alot... also if your high latency/low FPS, it will hurt dps alot.

Also don't look at dps in 5mans or raid trash mobs, but raid bosses it'll help you see better what dps you are putting out actually (and not what a spreadsheet says you are probably going to put out)

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Arthas&n=Carmi

That's the armory link. I respeced her into Survival and her DPS went up noticeably. I'm almost positive that it's the playstyle on Marksmanship that's fucking this up for me. What is the proper way to play it?

[Kaylia]

Which trinket should I use (prot pally):

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50235
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47216
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=49118 x2
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37220


Ick thumb
Blackheart
Brewfest trinket
Essence of gossamar


At the moment, I'm using blackheart and 1 brewfest trinket, but I have no idea which one is the best. Ick's thumb is higher level, but no stamina and use isn't that great. I could get badge one as well, but they seemed inferior.

[Eaglestrike]

Double +170 stamina. Arguable if a +armor trinket would be better than one, would depend on the fight.

Basically stamina > *

[Tricen]

Stam stacking for icc is pretty much the way to go it seems.

[SamanosukeShiva]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Arthas&n=Carmi

That's the armory link. I respeced her into Survival and her DPS went up noticeably. I'm almost positive that it's the playstyle on Marksmanship that's fucking this up for me. What is the proper way to play it?

you don't use arcane shot as MM my friend, skip arcane shot completely out of the rotation as well as the arcane shot talent. because MM relies heavily on ArP, arcane shot damage would even fall short compared to steady shot, which also gives improved steady shot buff.

your MM rotation should be: Serpent Sting > Chimera Shot > Aimed Shot > spam Steady shot until aimed shot/chimera shot ready. thats it.

here's the talent I use:

http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc...00000000000000


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yellow socket bonus most of the time are worth gemming, blue, not so much. so save the nightmare tears for blue sockets.

nitpicking the gears and enchants/gems:

head: gem-> (orange) +10AGI +10CRIT
shoulder: gem-> (orange) +10AGI +10CRIT
body: 1 gem for socket bonus -> (orange) +10AGI +10CRIT
gloves: enchant -> +20AGI
pants: 1 gem (blue) -> (prismatic) nightmare tears
boots: enchant -> +16 AGI
gun: gem-> (orange) +10AGI +10CRIT


gems/enchants just nitpick though, would probably increase around 50-60dps. Keep the glyph set up.

new talent/rotation would improve your dps by alot. if you can replace pryrite infuser with another trinket you should do it, darkmoon: greatness perhaps, because you're having alot of hit rating way over cap (108 rating over hit cap) which is going to waste.

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another tip for MM:

pop your rapid fire + all your cooldown at the beginning of boss fight then readiness then pop all CD again. most boss fights lasts around 6-7+ minutes, you'd have them up again before the fight ends, then pop them again rinse ande repeat.

[Gulkeeva]

Not true, I have around 29% arpen at the moment, I don't have an arpen trinket and MM is better than SV. I'm pulling off 6k dps in heroics and 5k+ in 10m raids (depends on buffs, single target ofc).

Considering the main damage of MM is auto shot/physical.. the more Armor pen the more you'd be doing though... you'd probably pull an extra 2-3K+ dps ontop of that "5K+ in 10mans" if you got to around 30-40% armor pen and some trinket that procs armor pen to get you near the 90-100% range

surv is pretty dependent on Ap/crit it should technically do better unless your geared for haste, and basically dropping crit for that haste (probably only thing I can think of that would somehow make MM a little better then surv with 29% armor pen)

anyway, the spec I use for 5/10/25mans
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#cxbZ0...guAox00b:AifMz

The 1 point in efficiency could go to focused aim if you need extra 1% hit, otherwise I put it in efficiency since long fights.. every little bit helps! (need to put point somewhere for the next tier of talents anyway)

[Plow]

Stam stacking for icc is pretty much the way to go it seems.

What? Everything in ICC thus far hits like a bitch, the hardest hitting stuff so far is little enough of a death threat that armor is no question superior.