Random Question Thread

[Kaylia]

Thank you so much! What kind of Gear score should I be aiming for to do the more recent stuff? I hear that term thrown around alot so I downloaded an add-on that shows gear score, mine is currently at 4044.

ICC PUG on my server ignore most people under 5000 (4800 will get you in if they really need your class). TOG10/25 seem to get people around 4500+. For the rest, it doesnt really matter. Just read trade chat and you will see fast enough how much people ask for, if your server follow that fad.


Gearing yourself properly with emblem and gear from the new 5men heroic should give you something around 4800-4900. In my case, buying ToC bracer on AH and getting my first frost badge item was enough to bring me above 5000.

If you're gearring/gemming yourself properly, you would probably outdamage the "lowest half" of most raid with your current gears. So technically, nothing stop you from joining them, it's just going to be hard to get invited if you still have blue.

[Plow]

Macros stop on errors. The first line will error out if Charge is on cooldown, and the 2nd will error because of the GCD if it isn't.

isn't there an #ignoreerrorframe or some shit command?

I'm almost certain there's a macro you can make with all of a ret pally's abilities and just spam the 1 button and it'll randomly pick any of them.

maybe it's something with /castrandom?

[Dareus]

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If you're gearring/gemming yourself properly, you would probably outdamage the "lowest half" of most raid with your current gears. So technically, nothing stop you from joining them, it's just going to be hard to get invited if you still have blue.

Totally a shaman healbot, so I won't be doing much damage. Thanks a ton for the info, once again.

[Onorgul]

A few Questions About Holy pally:

Should all my Gems, besides those used for meta, be +20 Int. I'm going to be using HL. Just wondering if there would be any reason not to gem just 20 int.

also,

How does one practice healing? I've never really healed in WoW any tips?

Every Paladin I've heard speak has vociferously said to get Intellect in every slot. With mana, crit rating, and spellpower all being derived from it, it's substantially more stat-heavy than spellpower gems are for other healing classes.

As for healing as a Holy Paladin, it's just an almighty game of whack-a-mole. I'd actually suggest you start out with some normal random dungeons. Since I know the nature of our battlegroup, if you joined a Heroic, you can easily find yourself in a situation where no one is really taking damage and, as such, you're sort of cruising through having to cast Holy Light only once in a while. Joining several normal Trial of the Champion runs, on the other hand, will quickly acclimate you towards how to heal, especially because you'll get an endless parade of questionable tanks and unstable DPS. It's strange how things go when Heroics are easy-mode.

[Khelek]

isn't there an #ignoreerrorframe or some shit command?

I'm almost certain there's a macro you can make with all of a ret pally's abilities and just spam the 1 button and it'll randomly pick any of them.

maybe it's something with /castrandom?

they removed /castrandom. you have to use /castsequence if you want to do the most similar thing there is, but it doesn't work well, unless there's a very exact rotation that you always follow, i.e not for retadins.

[Sai]

A few Questions About Holy pally:

Should all my Gems, besides those used for meta, be +20 Int. I'm going to be using HL. Just wondering if there would be any reason not to gem just 20 int.

also,

How does one practice healing? I've never really healed in WoW any tips?

Pick up an addon called clcbpt. It sets a timer on how long your sacred shield and beacon have left on whoever you cast it on, plus it gives you a warning when it's about to wear off. It was already mentioned, but pick up a good healing UI. It makes me facepalm whenever I hear some random healer claiming they can use the default UI and heal effectively; yet these same people can't ever find who to heal for penetrating cold, incinerate flesh, vile gas, fallen marks, etc. Plus, they rarely ever cleanse. Get into a habit of using clique to heal (or something similar). You're much quicker as a healer when all you have to do is mouseover someone's name and click something to heal them, instead of manually targetting them and then pressing a keybind to heal.

[Miraun]

Mage based question...

Using a arcane build at the moment, and I'm finding it a little lackluster compared to my old Frostfire build for AoEing. Used to use Flamestrike > FlameStrike Rank-1 > blizzard rotation back when I was frostfire, now I'm using just Flamestrike > Blizzard. I was looking into utilizing my second spec for AoEing specific, then swapping to arcane for single target DPS. A bit of micromanagement, but I think it could increase my overall effectiveness. So what are mages' thoughts on this build for AoEing:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#of0Vc...xZfVcZhIczkc:i

Dunno what I'd do for Glyphs though

[Plow]

If you're going to do a dedicated aoe build you'd be crazy not to go fire.

[Knyghtmayre]

icc10, lady deathwhisper, do adherants reflect poisons? and combat or mut build for the entire fight?

[Korietsu]

Mage based question...

Using a arcane build at the moment, and I'm finding it a little lackluster compared to my old Frostfire build for AoEing. Used to use Flamestrike > FlameStrike Rank-1 > blizzard rotation back when I was frostfire, now I'm using just Flamestrike > Blizzard. I was looking into utilizing my second spec for AoEing specific, then swapping to arcane for single target DPS. A bit of micromanagement, but I think it could increase my overall effectiveness. So what are mages' thoughts on this build for AoEing:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#of0Vc...xZfVcZhIczkc:i

Dunno what I'd do for Glyphs though

If you're going to AoE, FFB. Don't try for some whack AoE build spec, just use the one with all of the AoE tools built into the spec. 0/53/18.

[Correction]

icc10, lady deathwhisper, do adherants reflect poisons? and combat or mut build for the entire fight?

Nothing reflects poisons IIRC, they use physical attack attributes for everything but resist rates.

Also lots of target switching favors Combat and its multiple burst cooldowns.

[Xfaustx]

If you're going to AoE, FFB. Don't try for some whack AoE build spec, just use the one with all of the AoE tools built into the spec. 0/53/18.

I agree with this, though I honestly think that you're wasting your time making a talent spec just for AOE, most trash in ICC has you focus one mob as priority then onto AOE, or the trash are mini bosses (Precious and Stinky). Arcane's AOE ability keeps me in top 5 AOE DPS during trash, Flamestrike Rank 9 + 8 + Blizzard. A few fights (Anub ToGC 25) warrant FFB spec because of how mana intensive it is and the amount of moving... but the time's you will ever use FFB will be too few and far in between. Pick up a PVP spec... learn it, love it, PVP is good fun. If your guild wipes on trash because of your lack of AOE DPS... there's more wrong with this picture than the minor DPS loss from your Arcane Spec (and isn't your fault).

[sy.ste]

hi guys are there any affliktion warlocks here and have any gear recommendations? I have about 3168 sp self buffed, 20.68% criat, 14.73% haste and I am terribully much above hit cap. Is it a good idea to switch out sash of ancint power for strip or remorse from halls of reflektions? I will gain crit, a little more haste, but will lose about 40sp.
And I still use Dyng curse and embrace of the spider trinkets. Ar there any better trinkets available that you know? I am raiding icc25 and when we reach festerguy I feel like my dps is not enough. I think I do about 5400-5800 dps generally on icc-bosses.

[Jodwahh]

hi guys are there any affliktion warlocks here and have any gear recommendations? I have about 3168 sp self buffed, 20.68% criat, 14.73% haste and I am terribully much above hit cap. Is it a good idea to switch out sash of ancint power for strip or remorse from halls of reflektions? I will gain crit, a little more haste, but will lose about 40sp.
And I still use Dyng curse and embrace of the spider trinkets. Ar there any better trinkets available that you know? I am raiding icc25 and when we reach festerguy I feel like my dps is not enough. I think I do about 5400-5800 dps generally on icc-bosses.

Festergut is a really unfriendly for any class that's ranged full stop. The movement for spores and throwing up you guts proper fucks a decent rotation. So yeah, don't feel to bad about it chap.

[Lordshin]

Every Paladin I've heard speak has vociferously said to get Intellect in every slot. With mana, crit rating, and spellpower all being derived from it, it's substantially more stat-heavy than spellpower gems are for other healing classes.

As for healing as a Holy Paladin, it's just an almighty game of whack-a-mole. I'd actually suggest you start out with some normal random dungeons. Since I know the nature of our battlegroup, if you joined a Heroic, you can easily find yourself in a situation where no one is really taking damage and, as such, you're sort of cruising through having to cast Holy Light only once in a while. Joining several normal Trial of the Champion runs, on the other hand, will quickly acclimate you towards how to heal, especially because you'll get an endless parade of questionable tanks and unstable DPS. It's strange how things go when Heroics are easy-mode.

Hmm i guess i'll start doing Random dungeons once i get all gemmed and enchanted up... problem is Blizz still hasn't restored my mage ; ; he has all the enchanting mats and gold.

And as far as UI goes i recently got healbot and i've had decursive for a long time, i even cleanse while ret

Yeah i just hate how our battlegroup is amazing at heroics most of the time xD

[[Cookies]]

Resto, is it worth putting points into Celestial Focus for 10 man raid healing? We don't have a Ret or a Boomkin so even with BiS 10 man normal ICC gear i'll be just slightly under the haste cap with CF. It's literally a difference of 0.03 seconds off the global cooldown and i'm thinking that the points in Living Seed and Empowered Touch will be more beneficial as so far there aren't any blanket fights and the extra nourish healing would be really nice for fights like Festergut.

[rithridan]

Does anyone here use Rawr and have any idea how to find BiS with certain restrictions (no icc25 or heroic icc and no togc, possibly no primsaronite recipes)?

I'm kind of trying to figure out where to invest my frost emblems in. I'm a prot pala main with ret offspec, so far my guild surely doesnt do any 25mans and we haven't even killed anything past saurfang in icc10 let alone do any togc. I remember seeing a short video clip of how 'imba' ret 2t10 is with its divine storm reset yet I'm not sure wether its worth investing in when I'm actually a prot mainspec.

[Plow]

Does anyone here use Rawr and have any idea how to find BiS with certain restrictions (no icc25 or heroic icc and no togc, possibly no primsaronite recipes)?

I'm kind of trying to figure out where to invest my frost emblems in. I'm a prot pala main with ret offspec, so far my guild surely doesnt do any 25mans and we haven't even killed anything past saurfang in icc10 let alone do any togc. I remember seeing a short video clip of how 'imba' ret 2t10 is with its divine storm reset yet I'm not sure wether its worth investing in when I'm actually a prot mainspec.

First post on this page is about prot pallies:

ICC BiS is

t10 head
heroic festergut 25 neck
t10 shoulders
badge cloak
badge chest
heroic Deathbringer 10 bracers
badge gloves
badge belt
crafted (primo saronite) legs, "Pillars of Might"
not sure about feet or rings
heroic putricide 10 trinket
heroic satrina's/JV

yes, there's a pattern there lol... badges badges and more badges... oh and a few more badges helps with the saronite for legs

if you do decide to get the badge trinket, it should be absolute last thing

there's only 1 shield from 10 and another from 25, so bis there is obvious

basically, you need a shitton of badges, crafted legs, bracers from saurfang 10, neck from fester 25, rep ring, and whatever rings/shield/weap you can get


oh also this is all bis outside arthas, we dunno what he's dropping yet but it'll be 277 in heroic 10 and... 290? I guess in heroic 25


edit: only upgrade I see for you outside frost badges and raiding would be the crafted legs and the triumph armor trinket

To put it simply:

2 pc ret t10 is AMAAAAAAAZING

But if prot is your main spec, you've got way too much other shit to buy with badges first.

Only things your restrictions would change from my list:

Marrowgar 10 neck
Saurfang 10 normal bracers (instead of heroic)
Heroic Loop of Twin Valkyr (togc10) clear bis ring alongside rep ring, use triumph badge ring if no twin valks
Putricide 10 normal trinket (instead of heroic)
Badge stam trinket instead of satrina's (still should be last purchase if you have royal seal/brewfest or better)

Although actually if you're only doing normal mode 10 mans, triumph trinket + putricide trinket would probably be bis, you should have more than enough hp in general.

[rithridan]

[245] triumph head              > [251] t10 head (95 frost)
[226] conquest neck             > [251] marrowgar 10norm neck (icc)
[232] t9 shoulders              > [251] t10 shoulders (60 frost)
[264] frost cloak
[251] deathwhisper 10norm chest > [264] frost chest (95 frost)
[245] saronite swordbreakers    > [251] saurfang 10norm bracers (icc)

[232] t9 gloves                 > [264] frost gloves (60 frost)
[232] jaraxxus 10norm belt      > [264] frost belt (60 frost)
[232] t9 legs                   > [264] crafted (prim sar) legs, "Pillars of Might"
[232] pos icc5 feet             > [264] crafted (prim sar) feet, "Knightly Upheaval"
[251] ashen honored ring        > [277] ashen exalted ring
[245] triump ring               > [245] hc valkyr ring (togc)
[200] toc5 stam trinket         > [251] putricide 10norm trinket (icc) 
[245] triumph dodge trinket     > [264] frost trinket (60 frost)

[232] pos icc5 sword            > [251] marrowgar 10norm mace (icc)
[232] toc 10norm anub shield    > [251] gunship 10norm shield (icc)
[245] triumph libram

Since so far I haven't really been in trouble much in ICC outside enrage wipes (or co-tank dying), I'm thinking the order to look for upgrades through badges would be something like (got ~125 frosts):

[251] t10 head (95 frost)
[251] t10 shoulders (60 frost)
[264] frost belt (60 frost)
[264] frost trinket (60 frost) [+stam, -dodge]
[264] frost gloves (60 frost)
[264] frost chest (95 frost)

Aside from the putrice trinket, I think all of this should be attainable over time. Maybe if I get lucky on a togc10 pug if these even happen on my server, I'll have to ask our guilds resident pugaholics.

[MrSamuels]

I just started a Druid alt, and playing it as Resto, so far everything seems to be going ok on it and im finding it easier for me then my Paladin. I just have a few questions about certain spells, abilities and general druid knowhow

For healing, is Mouseover really that much better then other ways of healing, some guildies were sayign there is a massive difference but im only running 5 mans at the moment, so wondered if that was more for raids as im not having issues healing someone fast enough?

At the moment i don't have a set roation so to speak, i try and keep regrowth and Reju on the tank and if im going up to a boss etc ill put 3 stacks of lifebloom on him and try and keep it up all fight. I'm a bit confused on what to do when healing other members, do i just keep reju on them at all times? or put more hots on them, or just wait till they take damage. I'm currently saving Swiftmending on oh shit situations, like when tank gets low or a mage/clothie gets hit hard.

I have taken the talent to do an instant spell every 3 mins (at work and cant remember for the life of me what its called) is this to macro to Healing Touch? if so is there a macro to make this 1 button?

Finally any addons i should be getting?, got Grid and Clique but i imagine there is some kind of hot tracking thing available or more vital things than these two.