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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomino View Post
    1) Ugly truth, is Elemental the "i'm gonna QQ about it all the time" spec? I think you know what I mean with that if you ever played a retridin in TBC, for ex. Low on raid dps, behind Enhance as dps, things like that.
    I honestly don't know many ele shamwows, so I can't say. My raid DPS is generally pretty good though; I'm the only elemental in my guild and stay ahead of an equally geared enhance, but lag behind a slightly better geared enhance. I cheat and drop magma totem and use fire nova in trash though. I tend to slide lower on the DPS list, but am constantly very high on overall damage done (top 5 in 25s), even on boss fights. There is a fair bit of crying I've seen around forums though. We get dicked if we even move a little bit. Lord Marrowgar is horrid for me, since I always have to move out of the way of the wandering flames he loves to shoot at me.

    I fucking rock the gunship battle though, where I can stand still and just pew pew axe throwers the whole battle, so I figure it all evens out in the end.

    2) Is Elemental viable for levelling? some guides say it's just stupid to use it instead of Enhance.
    I leveled as enhance, and found it far easier. I still enjoy ele more though.

    3) Does lv80 Elemental gear with cloth pieces? This leading to the usual drama about a mail user rolling on cloths?
    Better stats is better stats. I don't roll on dps cloth against other clothies until it goes to offspec (my guild has a rule that offspec = off armor types, as well), and even if my guild had allowed me to roll on cloth for my main, I wouldn't roll against clothies because I'd feel bad. But that's personal opinion, though. I wear a Merlin's Robe because it's got kick butt stats.

    4) I must suppose one between Enhance and Elemental is the "less dps, more QQ" spec, so which one is it?
    Elemental probably. From what I've seen, most ele QQ comes from the harsh punishments we get from fights that require movement.

    Me, I don't care much. I love ele shaman anyway. LOVE it. To bits and pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomino View Post
    Some ugly truths, please, about Shamans.

    1) Ugly truth, is Elemental the "i'm gonna QQ about it all the time" spec? I think you know what I mean with that if you ever played a retridin in TBC, for ex. Low on raid dps, behind Enhance as dps, things like that.
    I don't know, don't see many around, but a lot of raids always want a DPS shaman no matter the spec, heh.

    2) Is Elemental viable for levelling? some guides say it's just stupid to use it instead of Enhance.
    IMO, it's better for leveling. Never played enhance though. With the fire nova change the class can AOE like CRAZY. Make your first glyph fire nova and by 25-30 you can have fire nova in a 3s cooldown. Fire Nova crits for 1400 on my level 54 ele shaman, mobs only have 3-4k health...

    3) Does lv80 Elemental gear with cloth pieces? This leading to the usual drama about a mail user rolling on cloths?
    I believe some cloth is BiS and some not. You should be fine taking mail and just getting a slight upgrade from cloth after a while when no clothies need.

    4) I must suppose one between Enhance and Elemental is the "less dps, more QQ" spec, so which one is it?
    I find elemental to be far more fun from a leveling aspect. But enhance may be better for raiding. They just put in a slight elemental buff, by the time you get the guy to 80 it might not even matter

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    Is there an addon to auto-kick/interrupt if you have the available energy/+CPs?

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    That's quite lazy. Do you want the addon to do the rest of your rotation too?

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    yes?

    but really i just want to try to maximize dps on targets that i have to also stun every cast ;\

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    I would hope there isn't an addon for that, and kick doesn't share the cooldown with your dps abilities so you really shouldn't lose any dps from using it. It's low energy cost especially if you are pooling.

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    If you're spamming attacks and missing kicks you're doing it wrong.

    Also blizzard forbids that kind of automation, don't get your hopes up about finding something.

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    As long as kick costs energy it'll be a dps loss to use, but generally if you're kicking it's needed anyway so not an issue, but yeah, it's off the GCD and low energy cost, just pool energy when it's about to be off cooldown and be ready to use, I'm full time interrupter when my guild runs TOC10/25 and I'm in (other people interrupting fucks with it, they don't get all of them and then my kick's cooldown isn't synched with the spell) and I still get top dps, so it's not MUCH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek View Post
    So! Just got told I should be combat rather than mut for the guild. This made me boot up rawr to see if I was good to start gemming full arpen etc. But I noticed something interesting. Rawr is telling me that Black Magic is vastly superior to berserking. I can see this being true due to the poison changes and all, but I'd like a second opinion on this. I'm going to try it out once I have some mats gathered up again. Anyone running this and know if it's better?
    rawr is probably wrong if it says vastly superior. Using my spreadsheet it would be close to berserking dps in my offhand, 20dps less, and way less in the mainhand.

    You will have different stats than my combat rogue so it may be some sort of upgrade on offhand but I doubt it.

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    Rawr.Rogue is not in top condition and I wouldn't trust it explicitly.

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    Is there any shinanigans when it comes to the new ICC raid quests with the bag? I mean, are some of the npcs that start the quest hard to find?

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    No but many of the quests are damned challenging...20 minutes to BQ pull, and doing Sindragosa basically means at least 1 person in the raid always has to be channeling that item thingy below 35%. I haven't seen details on the gimmick for Putricide but you can be sure that it's not as simple as just killing him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norellicus View Post
    No but many of the quests are damned challenging...20 minutes to BQ pull, and doing Sindragosa basically means at least 1 person in the raid always has to be channeling that item thingy below 35%. I haven't seen details on the gimmick for Putricide but you can be sure that it's not as simple as just killing him.
    So far I've gotten the Deathwhisper and giant ones. Deathwhisper is cake, just keep an add alive the whole fight. It does tie up a tank, but not a huge deal. The abom is actually kinda tricky. He puts a debuff on someone that after 8-10s kills them unless someone is near them for it to jump to. After the disease is off you you're immune for 35s. So you need to make sure 1 and only 1 person is near an infected person to get the disease and move on. Not difficult at all, but when you start losing people because you have no idea how the disease works it throws some difficulty into the encounter. Damn mob had 6.1mil hp in 10-man too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivero View Post
    That's the obvious answer but sometimes Leather actually comes out better than plate even if it has STR. Like Vengeful Noose as an example is better than the plate version. I think I might just get Gatekeeper's anyways, the differences are probably minimal.
    Ya gatecrashers are so nicely itemised for a plate item, the leather still win by single digit dps with my setup but extra stam and dr from the armor is worth more to me than the 5 or 6 theoretical dps gain.

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    for things that are "chance on hit," mostly concerning ony10's mh sword that CoH: wounds target for 2k, does that work with FoK? And if it does, does that make it more viable than the 232 axe from FoS-H for AoE-happy situations?

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    Sure, other than the fact it procs about once every 3 days.

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    Anyone try using the runes from the bone witch in ICC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korietsu View Post
    Anyone try using the runes from the bone witch in ICC?
    Damnit, I saved a ton of the drops from vrykul specifically for this purpose way back probably during Ulduar, and completely forgot about them. I'll give it a shot this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotGreyheim View Post
    Damnit, I saved a ton of the drops from vrykul specifically for this purpose way back probably during Ulduar, and completely forgot about them. I'll give it a shot this week.
    I saw them when leveling an alt, and was like, IF THIS WORKS, LOL ICC.

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    I'm almost certain my friend tried in 5 men heroic, and it didn't work (2% hp drain or 5%dmg reduction was a bit too much!)

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