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    Quote Originally Posted by Knyghtmayre View Post
    Is there:

    a) a way that addons of other people can lag the fuck out of me?
    b) a way to find out what addon it is?
    c) a way to figure out who it is?

    It's not really lag, @93FPS, 267MS and WoW just freezes almost completely sometimes, only when in a raid group and it's only happened recently, so I'm really curious as to what this is because my PC otherwise is completely fine.
    As correction said its probably Gearscore. EPGP is another one that will lag me out or crash me in Dal, though I've never had a problem with it inside a raid. i tend to crash more in popular places as opposed to inside raids.

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    Is 5.95% Hit chance enough for a paladin tank even in 10 man raids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dein View Post
    Is 5.95% Hit chance enough for a paladin tank even in 10 man raids?
    I'm at like 4.5% hit and I tank raids fine.

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    Hit for tank really matters in 2 situations: taunt requirements, and DK's who have "issues" with threat early in pulls.

    Quote Originally Posted by Onorgul View Post
    Block really makes that much a difference? Admittedly, with my glyph and Shield Block, I can mitigate a whole bunch of damage as a Warrior, but quite a lot of the damage from those first two pulls is magic and Spell Reflection only goes so far.
    Block is insane in heroics. There's no way a DK could wear the gear I do (literally all out pure dps gear) in heroics and get away with it. Even a warrior would have trouble pulling it off these days, but holy shield is basically a raw 30% dmg reduction with the level of block value I have, and redoubt is essentially always up even when hs gets burned through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    Block is insane in heroics. There's no way a DK could wear the gear I do (literally all out pure dps gear) in heroics and get away with it. Even a warrior would have trouble pulling it off these days, but holy shield is basically a raw 30% dmg reduction with the level of block value I have, and redoubt is essentially always up even when hs gets burned through.
    All I'm hearing is "nerf Paladins."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    Hit for tank really matters in 2 situations: taunt requirements, and DK's who have "issues" with threat early in pulls.



    Block is insane in heroics. There's no way a DK could wear the gear I do (literally all out pure dps gear) in heroics and get away with it. Even a warrior would have trouble pulling it off these days, but holy shield is basically a raw 30% dmg reduction with the level of block value I have, and redoubt is essentially always up even when hs gets burned through.
    I tank heroics just fine on my DK in mostly PvP gear, lol. The first heroic I tanked was in 4.9k gs DPS gear with tank emblem neck/ring/cloak and that's it. It was ToC, I did fine.

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    Paladin can solo most boss without rage time, and nearly every pull (excluding a few one heavy on mage). The nerf is going to come sooner or later >_>

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    My blood DK can solo a whole lot of stuff. A Blood DK has very impressive self-healing (basically 30% of my health every 10s not counting cooldowns at all).

    The only real issue is that if you're chainpulling and get 15 mobs the DK's self-healing doesn't improve but block continues to mitigate damage.

    Block is getting nerfed hard for this in Cataclysm, there's little reason to change things now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike View Post
    I tank heroics just fine on my DK in mostly PvP gear, lol. The first heroic I tanked was in 4.9k gs DPS gear with tank emblem neck/ring/cloak and that's it. It was ToC, I did fine.
    I'm talking 130+ def from cap with no resil to cover it, 27k hp unbuffed.

    Basically full out ret gear with icc10 dps axe + togc25 shield with str gem/tit plating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    Block is insane in heroics. There's no way a DK could wear the gear I do (literally all out pure dps gear) in heroics and get away with it. Even a warrior would have trouble pulling it off these days, but holy shield is basically a raw 30% dmg reduction with the level of block value I have, and redoubt is essentially always up even when hs gets burned through.
    Warrior is just as crazy, i go in full pve dps gear now, shield block has me covered if the healer is god awful, i'm main fury so i have a nice set, 9-11k in heroics on trash packs, 5ish on bosses. My 232/245 dk tank gets destroyed even with full tank set on in compare ;/

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    If I was doing that kind of DPS in most of the Heroics my Warrior has been in, I'd be fucking soloing the place. ._.

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    we do take dmg from groups when doing that much dps, I can definitely solo most bosses not too far from as fast as a whole group would kill when heroics first started tho


    but mostly there's no point to soloing when only going for frost heh

    I finally caved and got 2t10 today, can't wait to see dps now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onorgul View Post
    Block really makes that much a difference? Admittedly, with my glyph and Shield Block, I can mitigate a whole bunch of damage as a Warrior, but quite a lot of the damage from those first two pulls is magic and Spell Reflection only goes so far.
    The lack of a block mechanic really hurts DK's in heroics. Paladins/Warriors/Druids can shrug off most attacks because when they block it either completely pushes the attacks off the table, or they're taking 1500 damage compared to my 3k damage. In a raid setting it's not too much of an issue because I can push retarded amounts of EH and chain more CD's. I got away with tanking stuff on my paladin last night that I couldn't get away with on my DK with that gear level, solely because I was able to hit holy shield and go LOL.

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    okay why are my pets following me mounted like we're back in vanilla now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction View Post
    okay why are my pets following me mounted like we're back in vanilla now?
    Were you mounted when you entered a BG/Dungeon and just came out?

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    I've logged in mounted with my pet out, I've won bgs mounted and popped back with my pet out. So far that's the only times I've seen the bug.

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    Yeah for the most part I think that's all that gets it. It's been around for a while too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korietsu View Post
    The lack of a block mechanic really hurts DK's in heroics. Paladins/Warriors/Druids can shrug off most attacks because when they block it either completely pushes the attacks off the table, or they're taking 1500 damage compared to my 3k damage. In a raid setting it's not too much of an issue because I can push retarded amounts of EH and chain more CD's. I got away with tanking stuff on my paladin last night that I couldn't get away with on my DK with that gear level, solely because I was able to hit holy shield and go LOL.
    Druids can block?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sb View Post
    Druids can block?
    Savage Defense. I believe it's bugged in that if multiple attacks hit at the same time they'll all get absorbed instead of the "just one attack" rule on the ability. So it effectively works like block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike View Post
    Savage Defense. I believe it's bugged in that if multiple attacks hit at the same time they'll all get absorbed instead of the "just one attack" rule on the ability. So it effectively works like block.
    Works like bone shield. Can only dissipate "charges" so fast. However, I did H-PoS on my Paladin. My paladin is mostly in blues, and still crittable. Was much easier than my DK in full epics when I came back that was uncrittable and with more avoidance.

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