Random Question Thread

[Norellicus]

I've never found this gate to be open...am I missing something?

I'd have to run it again to be absolutely sure, but I'm 99% positive it opens after the baron dies. Or there's a switch. Or something. I ran that whole place so many times to get exalted AD (was bored before LK came out and the scourge invasion got me to revered llo), either I blurred out all the memories of having to stealth back through those garbage trash pulls to get to the service entrance or I didn't have to do them at all. And I'm pretty sure it's the latter.

[Noobta]

Err, you don't have to backtrack to get out of Stratholme. The gate to one side of Baron's ziggurat should lead to an exit portal.

Eles: Ghoul Rot?

I'm a Druid and it never really bothered me...just never left bearform to keep my health higher.

I'm 95% sure that portal is blocked off and just there for show.

[Correction]

I've killed Baron a ton of times and still that gate remains closed. Wowwiki has it pegged as the originally planned entrance to Naxx, but no source is given on that speculation. I suspect it's just an unusable artifact at this point.

[Norellicus]

Maybe that's what I'm remembering, the inactive raid portal. x_x

[Gulkeeva]

I got a random question(s)...!
I hear some people say for druid tank/feral dps... just pickup anything.

Now I've seen basically 3 specific types of leather. Ones with armor pen, crit and expertise.

Which is recommended for tanking? I think you just need 4%? expertise for tanking, would the rest be good in crit? armor pen any good for druid? Haste even useful for druid?

How much hit % does a feral dps need anyway?
and for feral tanking does hit even matter? just stack stam/armor I presume because of talents making you crit immune as is?

[Norellicus]

Tanking you don't need hit, but it's nice to help on offchance growl resists and ability misses and such...if I were expertise capped I'd put hit in beyond that point.

Crit is nice cause it's free rage with Primal Fury (swipe spam with decent crit = infinite rage), and Haste lowers the painful 3.5s speed between Maul/white swings...but neither is critical to being a tank. ArP is about as meh for a tank as it is for a DPS these days.

You don't wanna overdo stamina for obvious reasons, but generally your top stats for tanking will be Armor, Stamina, and Agility; Druids get a really generous coefficient for Agility -> Crit/Dodge (to the point that equal budgets of Agility and Dodge rating give you more avoidance per point in Agility!), so it's a super nice stat to have.

Once 3.1 comes out we may find ourselves looking more toward Strength/AP/Crit to augment Savage Defense, but that's going to need some time and testing.

In a hodgepodge of greens/blues ranging from 138 to 187 and only at Lv79 (8 bars to 80! I hope to get it tonight after dynamis), I have about 20k health in bearform and some unknown amount of armor (enough that I don't really see damage spikes or dangerous health unless healer is dozing off/unlucky burst order of attacks), 20-something % crit, and I *think* 30% dodge.

Rawrbears rock. :D

Edit: Don't ignore Defense rating just because you're crit immune either, still adds avoidance to an extent; I'd never gem specifically for it but it's a neat boon on gear that otherwise has nice stats (i.e. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35661 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43363)

[Slott]

Feral cats and bears need to gear differently - your questions also see-saw back between the two treating them as if they're one and the same.

I'm currently logged out in my bear gear if you want to take a peek, but I'm mainly cat for raiding. Both require different gear sets and talent builds. My talent build right now is also fucked up, and I've been too cheap to fix it

Bear gear: Stamina, agility and dodge are useful for survival. Crits, expertise, attack power and to a lesser level hit are useful for obtaining threat. From the front, a monster has I think...14% chance to dodge/parry, completely nullifying your attack and giving you zero threat. As you can see, expertise can be quite valuable to stack...to a degree. Hit is less important for a bear, since it only works for white attacks and aside from maul, doesn't do much.

Cat: You want to stack a shitton of attack power (strength where applicable). From behind, you have an 8% chance to miss white hits (which are roughly 35% damage), and 6.5% chance to get dodged. With primal precision, you gain 10 expertise rating out of a 26 or so needed to accomplish the 6.5% cap. The thing is, if you miss(get dodged on) a yellow attack such as mangle or whatever you only lose 20% of the total energy. With primal precision, you only lose 20% of the energy if you miss a finishing move too.

A cat's strongest stat is strength by far, with a mixture of hit expertise crit and hit. Armor penetration is pretty shitty, as is haste, since haste only effects white attacks and armor penetration are needed in massive quantities to be useful.

I currently sit at a 23 expertise rating which is like 5.75% and a hit rating of about 247ish out of 263. 72xx AP unbuffed in cat, with a crit rating of roughly 46-48% unbuffed.

[Gulkeeva]

ah nice thanks, was wondering whats all needed.

People were saying entry level could just have the same thing basically, but as ya get 10man stuff it separates, so wanted to make sure.

Alos the #'s for hit n expertise is useful! thanks alot

[Norellicus]

A cat's strongest stat is strength by far, with a mixture of hit expertise crit and hit. Armor penetration is pretty shitty, as is haste, since haste only effects white attacks and armor penetration are needed in massive quantities to be useful.

I currently sit at a 23 expertise rating which is like 5.75% and a hit rating of about 247ish out of 263. 72xx AP unbuffed in cat, with a crit rating of roughly 46-48% unbuffed.

I'd have to find it but I think there was some math done that revised this to say Agility is actually better now up to something like 40-50% crit? Thanks to the AP bonus from HotW and the critical damage increase from PI.

[Slott]

If you're doing naxx and you cant hit 40% crit, there's something extremely wrong to begin with. 2 weeks ago I was at 52% crit unbuffed.

Based on seeing Gulkeeva with undying, plagued proto drake and 3d sarth kills, I'm talking about upper end gear. When you first start gearing up, you put whatever you can on.

[Norellicus]

Fair enough, lol

[Gulkeeva]

If you're doing naxx and you cant hit 40% crit, there's something extremely wrong to begin with. 2 weeks ago I was at 52% crit unbuffed.

Based on seeing Gulkeeva with undying, plagued proto drake and 3d sarth kills, I'm talking about upper end gear. When you first start gearing up, you put whatever you can on.

wish I had all that, some people in guild fail too horribly haha, but yeah was looking at endgame, I'm sure I can sneak into 10man even 25man since lack of tanks!

[Noobta]

wish I had all that, some people in guild fail too horribly haha, but yeah was looking at endgame, I'm sure I can sneak into 10man even 25man since lack of tanks!

Think he was getting you mixed up with Arv somehow lol

[Slott]

>.>

also just realized when i linked my armory that i logged out in terribad polar gear since we were doing sarth or something.

[Gulkeeva]

Think he was getting you mixed up with Arv somehow lol

maybe!

I think my guild could actually do those achievements if people payed attention.. just... a little bit ;/

Most don't really try anymore though sine they got all the gear they need, and could care less about a mount

[Correction]

'Kay time for my 'ffffffuuuuuuuuuu' random question.

I had built up a set of no-lvl req armor with enchants on it to level up my alts more quickly through the first 30 or so levels.

Through a set of recent careless mistakes, a lot of this gear got reduced to zero durability.

The enchants seem to have fallen off. Is this intended behavior? Does all broken gear lose enchants or just anything under green quality?

[Kurp]

'Kay time for my 'ffffffuuuuuuuuuu' random question.

I had built up a set of no-lvl req armor with enchants on it to level up my alts more quickly through the first 30 or so levels.

Through a set of recent careless mistakes, a lot of this gear got reduced to zero durability.

The enchants seem to have fallen off. Is this intended behavior? Does all broken gear lose enchants or just anything under green quality?

Glitch, relog and it should be fixed

[Correction]

Well that's a relief...nobody seems to make nethercleft leg armor anymore.

[Lordshin]

Alright, so i've been leveling up my paladin (almost 71 now) and i'm ret atm and plan on staying ret (i dont like healing or tanking)

So i have a couple questions:

First, How do Ret pallys fair in the raiding scene, i usually dont pay attention to them if they are in the raid

Second, what is the optimal rotation of skills to maximize DPS. Basically: "How I ret pally?"

Third, Since my main is mage i have no clue about melee classes, i should be focusing on AP, Crit and expertise, in terms of gear, right?

lastly, slow weapon or fast weapon (for raids/5mans)

[Kurp]

Is there any way to get rid of:

HK: Knight-Lieutenant
HK: Private
HK: Field Marshal

in large font in the middle of my screen? I really don't care about a rank from a time when I wasn't even playing the game. I don't think it's a mod doing it as I've used so many different UI setups since I've been playing and it's always popping up.