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[Boyiee]

Until august I can only pug 25's, my 10man is filled with RL friends and sister so I doubt I'll be going anywhere.

not sure if it worth it to get more pve gear when I'm already top dps in 10's and top 1-3 in 25pugs... I'm 43rd best geared warrior, 23rd best geared dps warrior on realm. If I'm not going beyond pugging it might be better to save the frosts for pvp/shadows edge.

Of course, if I found a guild that didn't raid on Tuesdays and Thursdays then I could go do 25s, however almost every guild that has any sort of progression at all raids on at least one of those 2 days.

[Boyiee]

Another question:

There is a way to DPS tank as a warrior. I've seen people saying they do 6k dps while tanking, in fury gear while prot specced. Do you have to maintain defense cap or anything? Or just go full fury gear (dps weapon and shield) as prot spec.

[Eaglestrike]

Another question:

There is a way to DPS tank as a warrior. I've seen people saying they do 6k dps while tanking, in fury gear while prot specced. Do you have to maintain defense cap or anything? Or just go full fury gear (dps weapon and shield) as prot spec.

It helps to use resil to stay crit immune, but otherwise just wear crit/ArP gear. I'm not sure on the specifics of how it works with a warrior, but really warriors are better at that than paladins (spell reflect, interrupts and shield block are pretty powerful in 5-mans) so they can probably get by with less than I run with.

[Boyiee]

Also, normal prot spec/glyphs or what?

[Eaglestrike]

Also, normal prot spec/glyphs or what?

There is likely a different spec for a little more dps and such...but I doubt it's a huge huge difference, pretty sure it's mostly wearing actual DPS gear, there's a reason why warrior was nerfed because of PvP, just because of what crit/ArP does for prot abilities.

[sb]

Another question:

There is a way to DPS tank as a warrior. I've seen people saying they do 6k dps while tanking, in fury gear while prot specced. Do you have to maintain defense cap or anything? Or just go full fury gear (dps weapon and shield) as prot spec.

I'm not sure exactly what changed, but 3.3.3 broke war tanking in terms of dps. Our main tank in 25's is putting out 7k+ dps right now in ICC 25 on bosses with revenge spam and our guild is not that progressed gearwise...10/12-10's, 5/12-25's so its not from heroic gear or anything. If you want to check his spec/gear his name is ironfood on llane server. Hopefully he logged in the right spec/gear.
I'll try and remember to ask him to log tonight in that build.
It's sort of silly, he out dps his old fury spec. There will probably be a nerf coming soon so I'd run with it while its possible (even he admits how broken it is right now).

[Tajin]

Another question:

There is a way to DPS tank as a warrior. I've seen people saying they do 6k dps while tanking, in fury gear while prot specced. Do you have to maintain defense cap or anything? Or just go full fury gear (dps weapon and shield) as prot spec.

There was this dude doing titan grip tanking (shadow's edge and some other weapon) we raped lolocculus pretty fast and he never lost threat.
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ream&cn=Chyper

[Boyiee]

It was for 5man heroics.. Prot specced with fury gear. Sounded like alot of fun.

[Aesctaa]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...maggus&cn=Jhun

Thats my spec for tanking heroics as prot now, if i'm in my fury gear.. only difference for when i'm tanking is i still use the 245 crafted arp bracers, 251 2.6 speed 1hander from fester10man, and shield from gunship.

I was at 6.9k overall today in dtk on recount, highest on a 4mob trash pack was 16k, most pulls i was hovering at 10-12k

[Positive]

I've recently returned to the game and am leveling a warlock (currently 75). I'm not entirely certain on the gear requirements in order to run the newer normal/heroic dungeons (Pit of Saron, etc).

I'm currently planning on going 3/13/55 at 80 until I have enough hit to take the three points out of Suppression. Does anyone have suggestions on gear sets (craftable/questable/old heroics) that I should aim for before attempting the newer dungeons and before looking at raids? Of course I know the basics but all this gearscore nonsense is new to me.


I'd link to armory but it's blocked here - Positivity on Ursin.

[Knyghtmayre]

So... I'm playing around with a subtlety spec out of boredom and I figured why not since my offspec is Combat and I'm not nearly as good at it as I am with Mut, and I can't get gear for it since my guild is retarded. Problem is I can't seem to figure out how exactly to play this spec optimally. I went with 13/7/51 for now, just to try it out. I'm thinking of switching the 2 points I have in Blood Spatter to 1 in Precision and 1 (for 3/3) in HAT, since I don't ever really use Rupture or Garrote. Maybe I'm supposed to <.<'?

What I've been doing is just using backstab as my CPG and hemo'ing like once per rotation just for the debuff, evisc finisher, shadow dancing every time it's up, keeping SnD up like 99% of the time. Using my Mut daggers, 1.8/1.4 and my Combat gear which is mostly ArP gemmed/itemized but it's still only about 54% ArP. (I figured ArP would be a decent stat to go for in Sub since poisons only are amounting for ~23% of my total damage.) I could be wrong though, I don't really know what stats to push for or what rotation to use. I also have trouble timing the vanishes so often. Stealth at pull, Vanish after 1min, Prep, Vanish, wait 2mins, Vanish, 1 min, Prep, Vanish? Trying to get the most out of Master of Subtlety ;<

Anyone know anything about how the fuck to play this spec? So far I've only managed a massive 4.4k on a dummy with no buffs lol, compared to like 6k with Mut.

[Ohaigaiz]

I've recently returned to the game and am leveling a warlock (currently 75). I'm not entirely certain on the gear requirements in order to run the newer normal/heroic dungeons (Pit of Saron, etc).

I'm currently planning on going 3/13/55 at 80 until I have enough hit to take the three points out of Suppression. Does anyone have suggestions on gear sets (craftable/questable/old heroics) that I should aim for before attempting the newer dungeons and before looking at raids? Of course I know the basics but all this gearscore nonsense is new to me.


I'd link to armory but it's blocked here - Positivity on Ursin.

bejeweled wizard's bracer's, merlin's robe. both of these you can get from your tailoring cds and running heroics.

i also suggest you try a different spec. destro is very outdated and the worst dps of the 3 specs. spriests will love you for being affliction, and it's damn good dps. all casters will want to put you in their pocket and keep you for every raid if you're demo. people will take a demo warlock doing 3k dps any day just because the buff is so good they could care less.

[Ohaigaiz]

Anyone know anything about how the fuck to play this spec? So far I've only managed a massive 4.4k on a dummy with no buffs lol, compared to like 6k with Mut.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...nd&cn=Aalistor

per him, it's a terrible spec even with the buff. all it's good for, at the moment and with barely any testing done(just doing dummys), is killing clothies.

[Positive]

all casters will want to put you in their pocket and keep you for every raid if you're demo. people will take a demo warlock doing 3k dps any day just because the buff is so good they could care less.

There appears to be tons and tons of different Demo specs, do you have any suggestions on which would be the best DPS-wise?

[Ohaigaiz]

There appears to be tons and tons of different Demo specs, do you have any suggestions on which would be the best DPS-wise?

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IZ0GchkAkihsgdAoE00V

this is probably the best for giving the most to the raid. glyph quick decay, felguard, life tap. if you need more hit, drop the 2 in imp demo tactics for suppression. if you still need more hit, get your gear. with full triumph badge gear you will have more than enough hit.

[Positive]

Sounds good. Thanks Ohai.

[Metta]

Destro is still a good spec and i just changed my offspec to destro, the 3.3.3 patch to immolate was a nice (small) boost to damage, but you dont go destro for damage you go destro for burst, affliction is going to better for dps of course but on the LK i much prefer destro high burst damage, and a aoe stun just incase something goes wrong with the other stunners.

[Falaras]

all casters will want to put you in their pocket and keep you for every raid if you're demo. people will take a demo warlock doing 3k dps any day just because the buff is so good they could care less.

Think you could explain this one to me? From what I understand most Demo debuffs/buffs overlap with the other casters that will be wanting you for your buffs. The only thing I see that is intriguing is Imp. Shadow Bolt, but using reasoning from a mage perspective (The only other class to have that debuff) I wouldn't tell someone to go FFB for scorch unless the raid was scorchless, so I wouldn't say Demo was the spec to go unless the raid was already missing something. (Before anyone jumps on me about Fireball, I'm talking about back in the day when Arcane and FFB where the only specs just to make my point)
If I'm wrong, I'd just like to know why, thanks.

[Ohaigaiz]

Think you could explain this one to me? From what I understand most Demo debuffs/buffs overlap with the other casters that will be wanting you for your buffs.

what? have you never played with a demo warlock before? demonic pact gives, for any decently geared demo, 400 spellpower. it is essentially like moonkin aura, rampage, cat buffs etc but instead of being up fulltime it procs on your pets crits. it doesn't overlap any buff or debuffs and is unique in itself.

[Falaras]

Hm, according to mmo-champions raid calculator it falls under the same category as Totem of Wrath. If its apart from Wrath I can agree with you.
And I have never raided with a Demo lock before.