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**Gulkeeva** · 2009-02-19 11:41

Originally Posted by Kurp

Is there any way to get rid of:

HK: Knight-Lieutenant
HK: Private
HK: Field Marshal

in large font in the middle of my screen? I really don't care about a rank from a time when I wasn't even playing the game. I don't think it's a mod doing it as I've used so many different UI setups since I've been playing and it's always popping up.

Do you mean when you kill someone, or just the rank title floating over your head?

If you mean jsut the rank over your head, press the C key, and at the top of the character gearing page is a title chooser, you can select "None". As for the title when killing someone... think in preferences you can select off the honor kill notices and it will go away (think there was an option) so every time you kill someone no notice shows up.

Edit found it

esc key -> interface -> combat text -> honor gained

no more HK notices or honor gains from kills popping up

**Falaras** · 2009-02-19 15:03

Originally Posted by Lordshin

Alright, so i've been leveling up my paladin (almost 71 now) and i'm ret atm and plan on staying ret (i dont like healing or tanking)

So i have a couple questions:

First, How do Ret pallys fair in the raiding scene, i usually dont pay attention to them if they are in the raid

Second, what is the optimal rotation of skills to maximize DPS. Basically: "How I ret pally?"

Third, Since my main is mage i have no clue about melee classes, i should be focusing on AP, Crit and expertise, in terms of gear, right?

lastly, slow weapon or fast weapon (for raids/5mans)

Raiding wise Ret is better then ever, providing more buffs then most hybrids and still putting out awesome damage.
It really comes down to whats on CD, Judgement > (HoW under 20%) > Dstorm > Strike > Exor/Cons. Don't waste a GCD on strike if your judgement if just about to be off CD.
Strength all the way, but expertise/crit/hit arent exactly bad stats.
Slow weapon but honestly with SoB it doesn't matter as much, just aim for the best DPS/stats and take a glance at he top end.

**Slott** · 2009-02-19 15:23

I havent seen a ret paladin top charts in dps in a while...and in naxx its vs undead giving them an advantage. They could use a pve buff when ulduar comes around IMO

**Royal** · 2009-02-19 16:38

Wowinsider seems to think that paladins are actually getting nerfed in 3.1. Awesome seeing as how I'm leveling one right now.

**Norellicus** · 2009-02-19 16:43

They're nerfing it because you're leveling one.

**aers** · 2009-02-19 16:49

ret damage sux play a real hybrid imo.

also pretty sure ret is getting buffed in 3.1 to compensate for shit not being undead.

**aurik** · 2009-02-19 17:09

IIRC, a few abilities that are currently undead only are losing that distinction, losing some damage, and getting bonuses against undead to compensate.

**Lordshin** · 2009-02-19 18:56

Originally Posted by aurik

IIRC, a few abilities that are currently undead only are losing that distinction, losing some damage, and getting bonuses against undead to compensate.

yeah that's what i read as well... like, for example, Holy Wrath would do damage to all mobs but against undead it would be a 100% crit and it will stun.

i looked up on EJ about ret pallys and i think i'm actually going to try it out seems kinda fun.. if it doesn't work i might try healing =/

**Falaras** · 2009-02-19 20:58

I wouldn't say Ret damage is bad, our ret pally keeps up with or out DPSes our DKs and such.

**Slott** · 2009-02-19 21:37

Then your DKs are undergeared. DK's fury wars and mages top the charts by far.

**Boyiee** · 2009-02-19 22:47

Originally Posted by Slott

Then your DKs are undergeared. DK's fury wars and mages top the charts by far.

Then your hunters and locks are undergeared.

Hunters/Mages/Locks rape meters, with hybrids right behind.

**Slott** · 2009-02-19 22:56

My bad forgot hunter

despite hybrids supposed to be right behind, they fell pretty far back at the moment.

**Falaras** · 2009-02-20 00:11

Our DKs are as geared as our Paladins if not more. Of course the Mages/Hunters destroy Ret pallys but their DPS is still very good plus the JoW+JoC+Replinishment.

**Wizerd** · 2009-02-20 09:48

Ret Pallies are similar to other hybrid DPS: with equal gear/rotation skills you can hit 90-95% of a pure DPS. However, Paladins bring more to the table, with auras, blessings, replenishment, various panic buttons and not-so-panic buttons, and healing/cleanse capability.

It's a very fun class to play.

As for the buff, I never read anything about Holy Wrath getting a buff too? I only saw the bit about Exorcism becoming an any-target move with 100% crit on undead, and nothing about damage reduction on it either.

As for the priority of what to use, unless you're on multiple targets put Crusader Strike before Divine Storm, and if your mana is fine (which it should be with Seal of Blood/Martyr up), keep Consecration up behind Judgement and Hammer.

When putting a 5-man PUG together, I'd recommend not getting 3 pure DPS. While a good healer and tank can keep everything going smoothly, DPS will still do stupid shit that gets them more hurt than they should get, and healers/tanks make mistakes (or if you pick up a crappy one of either). 2 pure DPS, a healing hybrid, a tank, and a healer is my favorite setup so far.

Now for my random question: When people say "1500 DPS unbuffed minimum" or various other forms of that, what do they mean by unbuffed? (I've only seen it a few times.)

My concern is that while I can get 2k DPS alone on the dummy, I can't do it without BoM and Seal of the Martyr. In instances, with backing off for heavy AOEs and helping cure when needed, my solo DPS usually translates into my 5-man buffed DPS. But I'm not sure I'd break 1500 DPS using a crappy seal and no BoM.

So basically I'm wondering do they mean not raid-buffed? Or *actually* unbuffed?

**Royal** · 2009-02-20 09:56

It means no party or raid buffs. So if you're getting 2k DPS on a dummy you are quite fine. I couldn't care less about how they do ret paladins since I'm going holy at 80 anyway. Maybe early 70s to get some caster gear first?

**Gulkeeva** · 2009-02-20 11:14

Originally Posted by Royal

Wowinsider seems to think that paladins are actually getting nerfed in 3.1. Awesome seeing as how I'm leveling one right now.

Holy pally mainly getting the nerf, may hurt ret pally also slighty in the mana department.

and yeah dk's warriors and almost always mages top charts in 25mans doing average 6000-7000ish DPS

hunters are floating around the 5000-6000 range

**Slott** · 2009-02-20 11:18

What gulk said. On shit like patchwerk our dks mages and wars are waaaaay further ahead than 5% of the other damage dealers :[

**FailureMidgard** · 2009-02-20 11:26

A good lock is one of the highest DPS classes in the game...that being said, it seems so few guilds have one. Our top lock actually gets a ton of people from even pretty good guilds coming over and asking him what he does because he consistently beats out all the mages/etc...did 7100 on our last Patchwerk.

**aers** · 2009-02-20 11:32

You guys are inflating numbers.

Also, Warlocks abusing a 1 hour cooldown summon to e-peen Patchwerk parses don't count.

**FailureMidgard** · 2009-02-20 11:44

Originally Posted by aers

You guys are inflating numbers.

Also, Warlocks abusing a 1 hour cooldown summon to e-peen Patchwerk parses don't count.

Who is inflating #s? I also don't see what is wrong with using a Doomguard...if there is a fight in Ulduar that is a DPS race, you can be sure as hell that locks will use a Doomguard there, as well.

Anyway, he still did ~6500-6700s without a Doomguard.

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