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[Cephius]

Black heart is valued because the proc is guaranteed during tank swaps (which there are a lot of in ICC) when the extra armor is arguably the most valuable (as healers transition to you)

[Falaras]

Yeah I have the Trinket I just used Monarch Crab and liked it more as a main tank for TOGC 10, but the reasoning between ICC10 and Black Heart makes sense so I'll switch that up! thanks.

[Kaylia]

Tanking is arguably the easiest job in there, but I really like tanking so I may be biased.

It's tricky. Tanking isn't really hard in ICC most of the time, but if you mess up, people will bitch a lot more since it's easy to see. Personally, I think the mechanics are pretty much the same for everyone in ICC. Aside the last boss of vampire wing and festergut, everyone has to run and move the same.

Started playing my Paladin again and was wondering if I could get some ideas on what to work on:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...sin&cn=Falaras

I'm thinking I'll get the Frost Badge Trinket before any tier pieces. The cape I'm using was still one of the better capes at ToC level but I'm not exactly sure what options are now a days. Also I am unsure of the current best spec and enchants (Weapon, Chest, Shield, Back)

Frost badge trinket is sweet. I macroed it in my divine protection skill to double its efficiency . People told me it wasnt that great before, but I like it a lot.

[seph32]

I'm a Fury/Arms warrior with 94.96% ArP. For two trinkets I have right now are WFS and NES. I recently got Banner of Victory. Using Banner of Victory will drop my GearScore.

Here's a a quick overview
* BoV puts me from 94.96% ArP to 100% ArP
* NeS gives 2.48% Crit. With ArP effect kicking in I'll also have 100% actually having 678 ArP kick in which is pretty much an overkill of how much ArP I already have stacked up.
* BoV is a 200 trink, NES is 232 Trink
* BoV also has a proc that gives you 1008 AP for 10 secs

Feedback please :D

[Boyiee]

You have 94% with NES equipped? Or just during proc? If you have that much arp passive with NES equipped what that fuck are you doing that trinket is terrible take it off.

Gearscore doesn't matter.

Go download Landsouls spreadsheet from elitist jerks. It will tell you everything, don't even bother reading any other replies.

Oh, and change your ring to the agility ashen verdict ring. Gatecrashers gauntlets are better than the t10 ones unless you are arms more than you are fury, if you are fury more get gatecrashers gloves and the t10 legs.

[seph32]

Yes I know NES is a terrible trinket. I need like DBW or DV and no luck on both. I use to farm Banner of Victory and it never drops so I gave up. Today I signed up for ToC cause I was bored and the trinket dropped.

[Tricen]

Maximizing dps > gearscore. DCG is still amazing, yet it is ilvl200. If you seriously debating on whether to up your gearscore vs maximizing dps, then that is just sad.

[D44kpunk]

I'm a Fury/Arms warrior with 94.96% ArP. For two trinkets I have right now are WFS and NES. I recently got Banner of Victory. Using Banner of Victory will drop my GearScore.

Here's a a quick overview
* BoV puts me from 94.96% ArP to 100% ArP
* NeS gives 2.48% Crit. With ArP effect kicking in I'll also have 100% actually having 678 ArP kick in which is pretty much an overkill of how much ArP I already have stacked up.
* BoV is a 200 trink, NES is 232 Trink
* BoV also has a proc that gives you 1008 AP for 10 secs

Feedback please :D

if you have 95% passive arp and you're using NES instead of banner you're wasting about 600 of the arp when NES procs. you're better off using banner instead of NES to cap your arp passively.

[Siniroth]

If you're that much passive, don't use NES, use BoV, use the spreadsheet to find out if there's easily a better trinket, and try to get that one eventually.

[Askari0]

I'm currently Dual Speced into Blood and Frost, DPS on both. I was wondering what I should have in terms of weapons for it. Right now I'm working Rimefang and Wrist Chopper, but I'm not sure if I should drop them for something with +Agi for the expertise, crit rate, and armor pen. What is the general consensus for this?

[Eaglestrike]

I'm currently Dual Speced into Blood and Frost, DPS on both. I was wondering what I should have in terms of weapons for it. Right now I'm working Rimefang and Wrist Chopper, but I'm not sure if I should drop them for something with +Agi for the expertise, crit rate, and armor pen. What is the general consensus for this?

Wrong. While STR is better than AGI, you really benefit more from slow weapons so you're losing a lot of damage by using fast weapons. Not to mention the 1-3% crit, 4-6% ArP, etc. from using weapons with tank stats.

[Kaylia]

Am I the only tank who has threat issue since they added the 15% buff in ICC? Pretty sure im doing everything correctly. >_>

[Eaglestrike]

My guild sure had issues with it all night, people pulling all the time...

[Kaylia]

My guild sure had issues with it all night, people pulling all the time...

Is it just the additional damage, or threat is fucked up? Either way 30% is going to be terrible for tank lol.

[Norellicus]

15% extra damage doesn't equate to 15% extra threat because so many of our attacks have bonus threat values, so yeah, it's an issue

[SamanosukeShiva]

no hunter in your guild or something? lol +15% damage = +15% threat from MD

last time i played with 10% bonus, 1 MD from a hunter easily give 60k threat to tank

[Cephius]

It's mostly an issue on the beginning of the fight when tanks are still building a threat lead. I went to grab Rotface last night and he went and smacked a warrior before I could even get off my 3rd ability. Paladin threat scales with DPS but even then it's not enough in the face of DPS who are pulling 10k DPS from the get-go. Guys just gotta give the tanks more than half a second to build threat.

[SamanosukeShiva]

i usually blow all my CD + MD tank right from the start, with 2 other hunters, those crazy mages can do 16k dps right from the start

[Norellicus]

no hunter in your guild or something? lol +15% damage = +15% threat from MD

last time i played with 10% bonus, 1 MD from a hunter easily give 60k threat to tank

Well yeah, it'd be nice if the Hunters kept MD on cooldown; only repeated threat grab I get after the pull is from one of the rogues doing tricks (the other rogue tricks onto the first one). Hunters are like ok md pull and then seem to forget about it lol

[Jodwahh]

Fuck wasteing a global on that shit, I gots me some pewpewing to do!