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[Dein]

As a protection paladin should I get the frost emblem belt or the frost emblem tank chest armor for my next emblem purchase? I know that the frost emblem belt is the best belt I could get but if I get the chest piece I can swap out my current helmet for a helmet I got in an ICC 25 run.

[Falaras]

Can anyone explain to me how Mage Priest works? I can understand it working like any Healer + DPS comp versus DPS+DPS. But how would Disc + Mage beat something like Druid + Warlock? I know its not BC anymore and 50% MS + Hamstring isn't necessary in 2s, but I know me and my shadow partner STILL have trouble taking down druids, and he does much more damage than I do. I can't imagine trying to take down a druid as a Single DPS (mage at that) and a little bit of help DPS from the disc.

[Cephius]

As a protection paladin should I get the frost emblem belt or the frost emblem tank chest armor for my next emblem purchase? I know that the frost emblem belt is the best belt I could get but if I get the chest piece I can swap out my current helmet for a helmet I got in an ICC 25 run.

Doesn't matter really, the belt is obviously BIS but the Cata Chest + Broken Ram Skull helm is a great combination. You can't go wrong with either one.

[Falaras]

Also does anyone happen to have Rawr 2.3.14 or close to that they could send me? I'm really getting sick of how glitchy 2.3.15 is (Can't add items, most items show up with the picture of the dude that means they can't be found, very slow, can't import from armory, glitchy as fuck, ect.)

[Norellicus]

http://rawr.codeplex.com/releases/view/43429

[Tricen]

Hit is fine and Exp is 19.

What t9 pcs do you already have? The legs are pretty good. The gloves are ok if you need the hit still. I would suggest the legs gloves shoulders, get the t10 body and faceplate of thunderous rampage.

[Falaras]

http://rawr.codeplex.com/releases/view/43429

Thanks!

[Krye]

Can anyone explain to me how Mage Priest works? I can understand it working like any Healer + DPS comp versus DPS+DPS. But how would Disc + Mage beat something like Druid + Warlock? I know its not BC anymore and 50% MS + Hamstring isn't necessary in 2s, but I know me and my shadow partner STILL have trouble taking down druids, and he does much more damage than I do. I can't imagine trying to take down a druid as a Single DPS (mage at that) and a little bit of help DPS from the disc.

Disc dps is nothing to laugh at. We're not the best healers because we can dps, we're the best dps because we can heal You stack haste + spellpower, go smite spec + smite glyph + power infusion + shadow fiend and you can pump out some really nasty damage.

I haven't played the comp much further than 2K, but I've seen some videos. It's not really a faceroll comp if your opponents play well, you basically have to catch them in a bad spot and you and your partner have to give it everything you've got all at once. Or you might have to turn it into a control + mana burn game, but that can also be very difficult if your opponents don't have down syndrome. Be prepared for some very long games. If you and/or your priest don't know how to fakecast, you're going to fail. Get an add-on that shows enemy interrupt cooldowns and I'd recommend spell alerter for your priest so he can be super quick with his dispels. Because of spell alerter I can start spamming dispel before the spell even lands and you'll be out of CC instantly.

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=124673

http://www.fileplay.net/file/7561/hydra-7

Both of those movies have some nice clips of disc/frost.

The main thing I have to say after carrying so many mages and warlocks to 1800 is USE YOUR CC. So many fucking baddie terribles that fear or poly once every game. You can keep people out of the game for 50% of the time with poly, 50% of the time with novas, 30% of the time with counterspell, 30% of the time with psychic scream, and then you've got some stuns to throw around and some situational mind controls. You're a mage, your deal is CONTROL, so use it! And use it with your partner to create infinite CC chains!

One last thing I'd like to say is shadow/frost is just as viable as disc/frost and the games will be over much quicker. SK100 shows plenty of teams running both comps at 2700+ ratings, so don't re-roll comps if you're just looking for easier victories.

[Kaylia]

Wtf destro warlock do inside the Arthas's sword? (i need answer asap if possible!).

Our destroy warlock say none of his stun are working.

[Norellicus]

Kill the Spirit Warden before it kills Terenas and stun the spell it channels.

[Kaylia]

Kill the Spirit Warden before it kills Terenas and stun the spell it channels.

I mean, what spell destro warlock can use to stun it. None seem to work.

[Norellicus]

For the most obvious answer, a BE can AT; Shadowfury should work if you're specced for it; if you really really need it you can summon Felhunter in the phase 2-3 transition so it's up when you get ported in; but most people I guess seem to think you should be able to kill it before it becomes an issue if you just go balls to the wall on it.

I wouldn't know, I haven't actually done it yet.

[Tajin]

Hunter, got t10 hands and the frost back, do i save up badges for chest or some other expensive piece or do I get the shoulders? (Using the 245 badges one atm)

[Falaras]

Disc dps is nothing to laugh at. We're not the best healers because we can dps, we're the best dps because we can heal You stack haste + spellpower, go smite spec + smite glyph + power infusion + shadow fiend and you can pump out some really nasty damage.

I haven't played the comp much further than 2K, but I've seen some videos. It's not really a faceroll comp if your opponents play well, you basically have to catch them in a bad spot and you and your partner have to give it everything you've got all at once. Or you might have to turn it into a control + mana burn game, but that can also be very difficult if your opponents don't have down syndrome. Be prepared for some very long games. If you and/or your priest don't know how to fakecast, you're going to fail. Get an add-on that shows enemy interrupt cooldowns and I'd recommend spell alerter for your priest so he can be super quick with his dispels. Because of spell alerter I can start spamming dispel before the spell even lands and you'll be out of CC instantly.

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=124673

http://www.fileplay.net/file/7561/hydra-7

Both of those movies have some nice clips of disc/frost.

The main thing I have to say after carrying so many mages and warlocks to 1800 is USE YOUR CC. So many fucking baddie terribles that fear or poly once every game. You can keep people out of the game for 50% of the time with poly, 50% of the time with novas, 30% of the time with counterspell, 30% of the time with psychic scream, and then you've got some stuns to throw around and some situational mind controls. You're a mage, your deal is CONTROL, so use it! And use it with your partner to create infinite CC chains!

One last thing I'd like to say is shadow/frost is just as viable as disc/frost and the games will be over much quicker. SK100 shows plenty of teams running both comps at 2700+ ratings, so don't re-roll comps if you're just looking for easier victories.

lol guess I won't ask my Priest to go Disc for 2s then. Interesting post though, I think I have the opposite problem of what you said though, I spend so much time CCing my DPS is fucking horrid (or maybe its my gear).

[Krye]

Frost mages aren't supposed to do consistent damage though, you're proc and burst reliant. If you watch those videos I linked, when they're going disc/frost against dps/healer teams he's spamming frostbolt most of the game and not denting anyone, then it's just BOOM BOOM BOOM lucky crits + procs

[Siniroth]

Hunter, got t10 hands and the frost back, do i save up badges for chest or some other expensive piece or do I get the shoulders? (Using the 245 badges one atm)

The 2 set bonus for t10 is quite good if you're MM because you can roll the damage buff on serpent sting (reapply serpent sting manually when Exploit Weakness procs and the % buff will stick with it rest of fight), and shoulders are pretty well itemized, shoulders are probably best bet

[Ohaigaiz]

i think what krye is trying to say is get a shadowmourne and wear full pvp gear and go double healer to get gladiator

[Falaras]

i think what krye is trying to say is get a shadowmourne and wear full pvp gear and go double healer to get gladiator

I fought a Frostmourne + Valanyr team in the 1300s once. <.<

[Krye]

i think what krye is trying to say is get a shadowmourne and wear full pvp gear and go double healer to get gladiator

I was looking at this 2900 rated Shadowmourne warrior's stats and he has +200 weapon damage, +200 AP, +10% ArP, +200 resil, equal crit, +DBW, + Smourne proc over the full Wrathful warrior on my team. Fucking retarded that PVE gear is so broken he can have higher offensive AND defensive stats plus bullshit damage procs and trinket effects that last 30 seconds. And he's a fucking orc so he has +5 expertise. Balanced game my ass.

[Boyiee]

Hunter, got t10 hands and the frost back, do i save up badges for chest or some other expensive piece or do I get the shoulders? (Using the 245 badges one atm)

Exactly what is said above. My hunter is in same boat, got t10.5 hands from voa and the cloak from badges first (to replace a blue lol). Now it's 2pc asap, which means shoulders. And then pretty much keep 2pc t9.5 running 2pc+2pc bonuses until i have enough badges for the other 2 pc's of t10, ignoring the legs unless I get them from voa.

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