Random Question Thread

[Falaras]

First off, Paladin gets more of their dps innately, Warrior is more gear dependent.

Secondly, where are you establishing these numbers? 5man? A dummy? Do you have appropriate buffs/debuffs on the dummy? If not, it's not a very good test >_>

Dummys for the most part, I realize its not accurate on a dummy as to what my raid performance would be but I mean come on, 2k? That's sad for a tank these days.
Five mans I sit at around 3k from Cleave/WW damage.
I haven't entered a 25 man yet.

alright I'll post my armory, but there's a disclaimer: I know that I should be socketing strength, I know I am way over hit capped and my hit gems are shitty (I had them left over from leveling). If you look at my good pieces like my Wrist, Weapon, Hands, Head, stuff I plan to keep for more than a week you can see I know how to gem/enchant correctly.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...in&cn=Failaras

I guess I might be over reacting but 2k DPS just seems so low, I know I used to be able to do over 4k in VoA with my mage in lvl 60 gear, and again Ret at 70 I could do 2k, and my rogue which is in similar gear can at least break 5k on single target fights.

I thought it would fix itself when I got a decent weapon (was using Garrfrost/BoA axe) but after getting the beheader I barely saw my DPS increase at all.

[Tricen]

# Expertise: 2

Found it

[D44kpunk]

also why the fuck are you gemming hit when you already have 376 hit plus your 1% draeni aura? plus doesn't fury get hit talents? WAT R U DOIN AM SO CONFUSED R U TROLL

[Falaras]

# Expertise: 2

Found it

Should I be gemming Expertise or something then? I plan to make the crafted ulduar belt tomorrow and I know it has some on it.

[Tricen]

He already said he didn't wanna post cause of his gem selection and stuff. I mean, if you change hit gems to expertise then you would probably see a significant increase. Expertise is fairly important for melee classes, and if I remember right, Warrior has a pretty tight rotation type of thing. A didge/parry is a huge loss in dps, and with 2 expertise you will probably see a lot.

[D44kpunk]

oh sorry, i just clicked the armory and looked for things that i thought would be potential issues. warrior scales largely with gear, just work on getting more gear and see if it's still an issue

edit: but yeah to elaborate, you only need 4% hit from gear. you have 3% in talents and 1% with your hax aura, 26 expertise is the cap for melees, i'd suggest maybe getting the 264 craftable boots if you're serious about warrior, the leather ones that is

[Falaras]

oh sorry, i just clicked the armory and looked for things that i thought would be potential issues. warrior scales largely with gear, just work on getting more gear and see if it's still an issue

edit: but yeah to elaborate, you only need 4% hit from gear. you have 3% in talents and 1% with your hax aura, 26 expertise is the cap for melees, i'd suggest maybe getting the 264 craftable boots if you're serious about warrior, the leather ones that is

I realize I'm way over the hit cap and the hit gems are dumb, the sad thing is I'm playing on a dead server and my only real options are: Buying 80g bold scarlet rubies, buying 120-150g Bold Cardinals, or buying bloodstones and tipping someone to cut the perfects. The hit gems I just had sitting around and I figured they would be better than using the +10 strength gems I have laying around (I'm not paying 450g to socket a ilvl200 chest with gems).
Was thinking about those boots, originally the plan was to save all my gold for a Shadows Edge but I am contemplating buying DMC:G, Wodins, Rotting Sinew, and all the craftables instead.

[Tricen]

Switch 16 hit for 16 expertise gems

[Tajin]

can't wowhead cata quests, since its not on there, worg hunter is my first ally.. so no heirloom items on it, can't use dungeon tool , not enough on servers to do that... I'm purely leveling off killing mobs and basically.. guessing/reading quest descriptions and searching. Pretty much I'm lvling as a complete newbie.. that knows how to play hunter thats it

Between that and raiding on live servers.. as I said at the rate I'm lvling It'll probably be 2-3 weeks before I hit 80 (or possibly higher). If I had heirloom items/could find quest locations actually, and use the lfg dungeon tool I could probably do it in about 1 week or less even without knowing a single ally quest hub etc.

Ye, so I was talking live not beta/alpha >.>

[seph32]

Which warrior T10 264 should I upgrade first I'm 0/5. I'm a Fury warrior

[Tricen]

Body/Helm usually have the better stat upgrades. But if you need hit or expertise, you might wanna consider those.

[seph32]

Thanks for the reply. That's what I was thinking that head/chest would be the best upgrade. Dont need hit, gloves are bad for fury warrior anyway. And don't wanna waste token on legs if there's a chance on VoA dropping them since I have a 4 set anyway don't have a rush.

[Boyiee]

Gloves aren't necessarily bad if you are lacking hit elsewhere.

Helm and chest are near BIS, helm and shoulders look the coolest.

[Tricen]

Anyone have any rogue lvling tips? I'm lv69 right now, specced as assassination. Are there any tips and tricks for rogue, or is it just mutilate until 5CP and then envenom if there's 4-5doses and eviscerate if there's not. I feel like hunger for blood is pointless while lvling, since things die kinda quick. Maybe for dungeons, but eh.

[Falaras]

Anyone have any rogue lvling tips? I'm lv69 right now, specced as assassination. Are there any tips and tricks for rogue, or is it just mutilate until 5CP and then envenom if there's 4-5doses and eviscerate if there's not. I feel like hunger for blood is pointless while lvling, since things die kinda quick. Maybe for dungeons, but eh.

I never used Envenom while leveling, seems wasted. CS -> Mutilate > KS > Mutilate > Evis usually gets the job done. Not to mention Deadly is kind of shitty since its a DoT and the mobs die fast, Wound or Instant both are better for leveling. I also feel HFB is worthless.

[Mortilox]

war stuff

Going to agree with you that it's almost pointless to properly gem/enchant things you might replace in the same week with something better.

Also agreeing with everyone else that fury is very gear dependent, you may be better off specing arms.

[Mortilox]

Should I still replace my Malevolent girdle with Vengeful Noose? I'll be 29 hit rating under the yellow cap.. so I should just gem 1 20 hit gem and 1 10 hit & arp? idk if there's a gem that does that.

Or I could change my feet/hand enchants I guess. Advice? got Crusher on hands and whatever the AP one is on feet.

[Falaras]

Going to agree with you that it's almost pointless to properly gem/enchant things you might replace in the same week with something better.

Also agreeing with everyone else that fury is very gear dependent, you may be better off specing arms.

I actually don't think anyone else said that but it is interesting, I know everyone said Arms was better for leveling but once I got TG fury just blew it out of the water. Anyways since hopefully I'll be jumping servers on my mage soon to a new guild I don't plan to play my warrior anymore so, sadface.

[Eaglestrike]

I actually don't think anyone else said that but it is interesting, I know everyone said Arms was better for leveling but once I got TG fury just blew it out of the water. Anyways since hopefully I'll be jumping servers on my mage soon to a new guild I don't plan to play my warrior anymore so, sadface.

Pretty certain Arms keeps up pretty well until around ICC. I know my warrior has outDPS'd numerous Fury warriors with better gear than him in VoA's.

[Aesctaa]

I think its more a matter of Arms not excelling so much at the majority of fight types in raids, rarther than it being a mile behind on patchwerks(its not THAT bad). Fury Cleave/WW spam destroys bladestorm for AoE, and Fury doesnt need to waste a gcd on rend every time you switch targets etc.