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    arms on marrowgar = win

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    not really, if everyones stacked on the ass, cleave/WW are ridiculous OP, sweeping strikes doesnt even come close. almost all of the top ranked players of all classes on marrow heroic are fury warriors.

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    What's the best way to gem for DK tanking? I've read conflicting reports between going pure stamina, and balancing pure sta with throwing in exp/sta in anything that has red gem socket bonuses. How much expertise should I aim for, or does it matter since the parry cap is so high?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonastheed View Post
    What's the best way to gem for DK tanking? I've read conflicting reports between going pure stamina, and balancing pure sta with throwing in exp/sta in anything that has red gem socket bonuses. How much expertise should I aim for, or does it matter since the parry cap is so high?
    somewhat close to softcap(26) is nice, DK wont have major threat issues if its a bit under, with icy touch being what it is.

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    Quick! Coldwraith links from 25 man icc valithria vs Vengeful noose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortilox View Post
    Quick! Coldwraith links from 25 man icc valithria vs Vengeful noose?
    believe vengeful is better unless its heroic coldwraith but don't quote me on that

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    nonono links are BIS plate! Unless you can get your hands on the leather from PP but goodluck with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortilox View Post
    Should I still replace my Malevolent girdle with Vengeful Noose? I'll be 29 hit rating under the yellow cap.. so I should just gem 1 20 hit gem and 1 10 hit & arp? idk if there's a gem that does that.

    Or I could change my feet/hand enchants I guess. Advice? got Crusher on hands and whatever the AP one is on feet.
    Use spreadsheet, us guessing and you guessing won't get you anywhere. It's the only way to determine what to gem/equip.


    Quote Originally Posted by Aesctaa View Post
    not really, if everyones stacked on the ass, cleave/WW are ridiculous OP, sweeping strikes doesnt even come close. almost all of the top ranked players of all classes on marrow heroic are fury warriors.
    Arms is fun and rapes on marrowgar because of retaliation during marrow's brostorm.

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    What would you guys say is the order of difficulty in terms of icc10 hard modes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    What would you guys say is the order of difficulty in terms of icc10 hard modes?
    LK > Sindra > Putri > Everything else is pretty easy...
    Unlike in 25 LDW HM is actually very simple in 10, and Saurfang is pretty amazingly easy too. I've heard some bad stories about healers getting bonespiked on marrogar but I've never seen that happen and bet its just stories because healers like to QQ! Blood Princes may be a bit harder on 10 than 25 but that's just from my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    Arms is fun and rapes on marrowgar because of retaliation during marrow's brostorm.
    If someone finds it fun or different and it works for their guild thats what counts i guess, but it is about 3-5k dps behind fury on Marrowgar assuming perfect gear+shadowmourne, and i'd guess at least 2k behind in average gear.

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    No one was arguing whether it was better or not. Not every guild is competing for WoL numbers, that actually is what counts for the majority of guilds/players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falaras View Post
    LK > Sindra > Putri > Everything else is pretty easy...
    Unlike in 25 LDW HM is actually very simple in 10, and Saurfang is pretty amazingly easy too. I've heard some bad stories about healers getting bonespiked on marrogar but I've never seen that happen and bet its just stories because healers like to QQ! Blood Princes may be a bit harder on 10 than 25 but that's just from my experience.
    I think Putricide is pretty stupid easy in 10...Princes is harder IMO, and also is the worst fight in the game~

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    I'm not the only one that thinks Princes is just a retarded fight. Hate that fight so much.

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    Princes normal is easier in 25 than in 10 for the most part lol. HM it seems to me like one of the top 4 in difficulty.

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    imo icc25 is a joke except pp hm. lk hm is even easier than pp imo, but all my characters are ranged except 1 and he's a tank which is completely different than melee anyway.

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    I have just recently beat PP normal mode [laugh it up >_>] and been getting more frosties. Im warrior tank and the first 95 I spent was on T10 body -.- but now I'm tanking more than dps so I was looking into the t10 set bonus for prot warriors. 2 set seems not really worth it, +20% bonus damage from shield bash and shockwave. The 4 set gives free bloodrage so I can swap out the glyph on that for something else [yay?] and lets me absorb 20% of my total hp. That part seems the most inviting and gives me a reason to pop bloodrage other than to use commanding shout to buff the raid.

    If T10 2/4 set bonus really not that great then I'll focus on the hands and body that you can get from frosties and craft my own tanking gear from P.Saronites :D but would like opinion on others before I take this further and dump the gold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    Princes normal is easier in 25 than in 10 for the most part lol. HM it seems to me like one of the top 4 in difficulty.
    Why am I the only one that thinks 10m princes is easier than 25?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakabo View Post
    T10 body
    gonna go ahead and stop reading there, the 4 piece for prot is OK, but there is more than enough support cds and your own cds to essentially make it useless. as well, pillars of might and cataclysmic chestguard trumps sanc for those slots until heroic icc25. should definitely gm that body and try to get it revoked. chest is simply a much better upgrade for now.

    edit after reading: 2 piece is amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricen View Post
    I'm not the only one that thinks Princes is just a retarded fight. Hate that fight so much.
    This. Can 1-shot everything else but a bad timing on the shadow boss wipes you good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohaigaiz View Post
    gonna go ahead and stop reading there, the 4 piece for prot is OK, but there is more than enough support cds and your own cds to essentially make it useless. as well, pillars of might and cataclysmic chestguard trumps sanc for those slots until heroic icc25. should definitely gm that body and try to get it revoked. chest is simply a much better upgrade for now.

    edit after reading: 2 piece is amazing
    Lol I do wish all the time now that I could re-sell that t10 body but 20% dmg bonus think will really show on pulling threat? I know pillars of might are pretty awesome, just deciding on what slots to fill for t10 and what else for Crafted items.

    edit: [Ghoul Commander's Cuirass] is what I am currently wearing on my tanking set so I planned on waiting to upgrade to T10 body/cataclysmic chestguard till I'm running out of things to buy with frost.

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