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    Anyone having Real ID issues? Mine doesn't show up on my interface at all. The only addon that effects any of that aspect to my interface afaik is IgnoreMore. But the "Pending" tab doesn't exist, when I go to invite a friend it doesn't ask for RealID/E-mail address, it only works like pre-patch.

    And might it have this effect since I'm on the alpha?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eanae View Post
    Seal of Cleave is awesome. I love it for trash.
    I've been wondering about this myself, since most of what I do on my Paladin consists of: Soloing MC, Soloing ZG, Maybe daily heroic, very rarely a easy mode raid. But I just didn't know if Command put out more DPS than SoV, guess I gotta work a new build.

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    For trash and multiple mobs? Yeah, command is better. For a single target fight? Vengeance/corruption is a whole lot better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike View Post
    For trash and multiple mobs? Yeah, command is better. For a single target fight? Vengeance/corruption is a whole lot better.
    Well obviously I'd use Vengeance for single target, I meant for just AoEing shit down. I remember right after the Command change people where saying it just wasn't worth it due to vengeance stacking on multiple targets with HoR but I guess that was wrong!

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    So for people who've been on the quest or have a dps in their raid on it, how bad is the drop rate for Shadowfrost shards on regular boss kills? Hoping to get 2/3 of my quest bosses done this week, then i'll have to do Sindy's quest.

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    We got to LK tonight and while fighting sindra I been missing a lot of taunts :/ Was embarrassing and gave a few close calls. During LK shamblings were being missed as well when I taunted them and the few times I landed I accidentally pulled LK .-. wtf.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...&cn=Taurentank

    My gear is there, is there some gems I should be replacing or enchants? I have no idea why I miss so often. I use to not have issues but now I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakabo View Post
    We got to LK tonight and while fighting sindra I been missing a lot of taunts :/ Was embarrassing and gave a few close calls. During LK shamblings were being missed as well when I taunted them and the few times I landed I accidentally pulled LK .-. wtf.

    My gear is there, is there some gems I should be replacing or enchants? I have no idea why I miss so often. I use to not have issues but now I am.
    I'm not a tank, but glyph of taunt (+8% hit to taunt) can probably help you if you have issues with taunt missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    So for people who've been on the quest or have a dps in their raid on it, how bad is the drop rate for Shadowfrost shards on regular boss kills? Hoping to get 2/3 of my quest bosses done this week, then i'll have to do Sindy's quest.
    They drop all the time, even on normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurai View Post
    I'm not a tank, but glyph of taunt (+8% hit to taunt) can probably help you if you have issues with taunt missing.
    Wow slipped my mind, will replace my glyph of revenge. :/ Never use Heroic Strike tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falaras View Post
    Well obviously I'd use Vengeance for single target, I meant for just AoEing shit down. I remember right after the Command change people where saying it just wasn't worth it due to vengeance stacking on multiple targets with HoR but I guess that was wrong!
    I think Vengeance/Corruption will do more over a longer period of time if you're attacking 4 targets and don't get hit by RNG (parry/dodge/miss) and lose stacks, because HotR can keep it up on all 4, but Command also procs on every single target ability you have and doesn't take any time to ramp up at all, it just goes nuts..

    Take that with a grain of salt, I don't have any numbers to back that up, could very easily be wrong.

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    SoC is EEEEEZZZ mode tanking, really irks me when fail loladins pull huge groups and use fail seals :/


    SoC is uber for leveling too, in fact my first I specced for SoC before puttin any points in protection

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    Shouldn't you level as ret anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniroth View Post
    I think Vengeance/Corruption will do more over a longer period of time if you're attacking 4 targets and don't get hit by RNG (parry/dodge/miss) and lose stacks, because HotR can keep it up on all 4, but Command also procs on every single target ability you have and doesn't take any time to ramp up at all, it just goes nuts..

    Take that with a grain of salt, I don't have any numbers to back that up, could very easily be wrong.
    Rule of thumb as I learned it is that if the fight is lasting more than 30 seconds, use Vengeance/Corruption. That's roughly the amount of time it takes for the ticks to start adding up to more damage than the cleave does constantly. ICC trash used to take awhile to burn down so SoC wasn't always the best option, but with the buffs things have probably changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephius View Post
    Rule of thumb as I learned it is that if the fight is lasting more than 30 seconds, use Vengeance/Corruption. That's roughly the amount of time it takes for the ticks to start adding up to more damage than the cleave does constantly. ICC trash used to take awhile to burn down so SoC wasn't always the best option, but with the buffs things have probably changed.
    But 1 less talent in command means 1% dmg (2% against everything in icc). Even if it was significantly better for trash, losing this kind of threat on boss is kind of a big deal.


    Also, isnt there a target limit to SoC cleave?. I thought it was capping at 2 adds or some shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohaigaiz View Post
    Shouldn't you level as ret anyway?
    Prot is not slow at all plus you get instadungeons

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    Prot leveling is whoamg fun too, unless you try to tank a camp full of casters, and yes, SoC is limited to 2 adds

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    Well, nevermind then no SOC for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tajin View Post
    Prot is not slow at all plus you get instadungeons
    You can tank any pre-Outland dungeon as ret, with a two-hander.

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    A question to all the horde people who like to PvP at different levels.

    Do you often find that alliance sucks dick at coordination and can't win any battlegrounds for shit?

    Because right now I'm willing to pay to transfer my mage to the team I should be on..

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    It's battlegroup based, not specifically faction/server based.

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