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    Uh, right. Meant faction change, not server.

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    So what all did they change about votekicking last patch? I went into a Maraudon, healer druid says the dps priest in the group is his second account. He's just got the priest /follow on his druid, doing nothing. We wiped. But it's saying 25 minutes to kick either one of them. So we have to deal with a useless fuck for 25min even though we've wiped?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortilox View Post
    Uh, right. Meant faction change, not server.
    Chances are if your current faction is terrible at pvp all the way through and including at 80, then the other faction wins...

    My last horde server alliance dominated everything, on this one, horde dominate everything. Do alliance suck dick on my current? Yes. Did horde suck dick on my last? Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike View Post
    So what all did they change about votekicking last patch? I went into a Maraudon, healer druid says the dps priest in the group is his second account. He's just got the priest /follow on his druid, doing nothing. We wiped. But it's saying 25 minutes to kick either one of them. So we have to deal with a useless fuck for 25min even though we've wiped?
    They don't like you vote kicking multiple people so that you don't kick every 3k gearscore person until you get a 6k gearscore... so people are still going to abuse the dualbox 2 characters with one doing nothing, get that one kicked, then immediately afk on the main one.

    No idea what changed.

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    I swear on a wipe it used to let you kick people before there was a timer. Unless my account is flagged for kicking people too often or something?

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    I was in a Violet hold group, and the tank had some grudge or was a generall cunt and didn't do anything. We couldn't kick because we were in combat. Or because you couldn't kick directly after combat.

    Shit sucks man.

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    jesus christ, I just watched as an alliance rogue took the flag away from our 2 bases to the horde base in Eye of the storm. Alone.

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    Almost done with Priest, by almost, I mean its 70, so probably in a week's time.

    I want to immediately invest in heirloom gear and focus on another character. I'm thinking about doing Rogue or Paladin, however I want to know which class is basically the "Samurai" equivalent in this game... by that I mean which class is considered to be the best dps in terms of PvE. (My Priest is going to be solely PvP)

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    Currently, this Xpac, Warrior. Next Xpac, noone knows.

    However, it varies on a boss to boss bases. Hunter rapes some, DK rapes some, rogue rapes some, etc... currently in ICC warrior is the best on the majority of bosses (6). It should change in cataclysm.

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    A tip top warrior is about as difficult to deck out as an FFXI samurai, so yeah.

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    What gear sets do Protadins run around with now? I only carried Stam gear and Block Value gear before but I assume with more gear choices becoming available you carry more?

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    I have an armor set, hp set, PvP set, heroic set, a boss set, I think that's about it? Most sets only differ with trinkets though, lol.

    I suppose there's also the BQL OT set, but I haven't really saved that as its own set, just make it before each kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike View Post
    I have an armor set, hp set, PvP set, heroic set, a boss set, I think that's about it? Most sets only differ with trinkets though, lol.
    Do you find the armor set useful? And whats different between your Boss and HP set? I'm currently using this: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...sin&cn=Falaras as a full time set but don't know if I should try to find an armor trinket or two. I also have the Armor ring from Triumph badges that matches the stats of the Anubarak ring I am using but was under the impression this one was better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia View Post
    But 1 less talent in command means 1% dmg (2% against everything in icc). Even if it was significantly better for trash, losing this kind of threat on boss is kind of a big deal.


    Also, isnt there a target limit to SoC cleave?. I thought it was capping at 2 adds or some shit.
    The point is taken from the crit talent, not the damage one. 1% crit really isn't that big of a deal, but yeah if you're going for max threat it certainly helps. Of course, SoC is nice to have for hard mode deathwhisper and dreamwalker.

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    Armor set = Organ + 245 emblem one.
    Boss set = Organ + CSK
    HP set = CSK + ToC25

    WotLK tank guide stats breakdown:
    1) Go with highest stamina.
    2) If stamina is the same, go with highest armor.
    3) If stamina and armor is the same, it's the same item, gg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike View Post
    Armor set = Organ + 245 emblem one.
    Boss set = Organ + CSK
    HP set = CSK + ToC25

    WotLK tank guide stats breakdown:
    1) Go with highest stamina.
    2) If stamina is the same, go with highest armor.
    3) If stamina and armor is the same, it's the same item, gg.
    and when do you find that you use the Armor set? Asking because I would grab up the badge trinket.

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    When I'm MTing BQL I do, because armor reduces damage "twice" there. If I got other upgrades so that I had the HP for surviving encounters better I'd use it for Festergut too I'd bet. I stopped raiding a while ago, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falaras View Post
    and when do you find that you use the Armor set? Asking because I would grab up the badge trinket.
    Armor is more valuable the more physical damage a fight has. So armor is great to have against Deathbringer or Festergut, but not so much against Deathwhisper or Sindragosa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falaras View Post
    What gear sets do Protadins run around with now? I only carried Stam gear and Block Value gear before but I assume with more gear choices becoming available you carry more?
    ilvl (95% of the time) > prettiest outfit > stam > def > other stats.

    I don't give a damn about my gears anymore on prot. They are almost always equivalent, and unless you have a specific encounter in mind, there is rarely a clear cut winner. I could roll on sidegrade and change every fight, but fuck that, unless you're in heroic icc25, chance is it doesnt matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephius View Post
    The point is taken from the crit talent, not the damage one. 1% crit really isn't that big of a deal, but yeah if you're going for max threat it certainly helps. Of course, SoC is nice to have for hard mode deathwhisper and dreamwalker.
    My bad, I didnt think that one through. Yeah, 1% crit isnt a big deal I guess.


    One more issue with SoV is the small range. Vengeance dot will continue ticking if the adds move out of range, where SoC only work if the adds are stacked on top of each other. That and I'm sure I will forget changing seal mid fight occasionally. For heroic 5m, I would probably consider it, but I'm not on (short) add duty often enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia View Post
    One more issue with SoV is the small range. Vengeance dot will continue ticking if the adds move out of range, where SoC only work if the adds are stacked on top of each other. That and I'm sure I will forget changing seal mid fight occasionally
    It's range isn't that bad. It's a circular cleave that hits the two closest targets in a 10 yard (I think?) radius around the target you're hitting.

    Also, it procs off Judgements and Shield of Righteousness, so combined with a good weapon you're basically cleaving once a second once you settle into the 969 rotation.

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