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    If you don't have TPS problems, you've never played with a good Fury Warrior or Fire Mage. Fire even gets 20% less TPS through talents and warriors don't get any talents for that. Then again if you have rogues tricksing you I guess you shouldn't have problems but who does that.

    I just thought of how hard it would be to keep aggro off a Shadowmourne warrior and it made me sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falaras View Post
    If you don't have TPS problems, you've never played with a good Fury Warrior or Fire Mage. Fire even gets 20% less TPS through talents and warriors don't get any talents for that. Then again if you have rogues tricksing you I guess you shouldn't have problems but who does that.

    I just thought of how hard it would be to keep aggro off a Shadowmourne warrior and it made me sad.
    Improved berserker stance gives a 20% reduction through talents. But still, I sometimes find myself holding back on some fights because I know I'm about to take threat from the tank and kill myself.

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    So I just got my DK to 80 and geared it up as far as I could through heroics. Now my question is: as a frost tank, why should I ever use obliterate? I see no reason since spamming icy touch is far more threat. (IT, IT, PS, BS, BS, IT, IT, IT, IT, PS etc. with rune strikes and frost strikes)
    makes me think something like: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#j0EGZh...buzAo0x:kdsmMV would be optimal for single target.

    (This is all for single target. I realise using obliterate for free howling blasts would be good for onyxia whelps)

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    Damn I would have said why would any one want to spam icytouch when tanking but I just checked that they added some +threat modifyer since I stopped playing
    stupid idea since it dumbs down the class
    atleast they are getting rid of it due to the tree changes in cata

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    Doesn't really dumb down the class imo. it's just one rotation for another. and it still has you activate death runes to do more of <spammed ability>. if anything, I like the increase in frequency of button pushing with this setup. I'm just wondering why I can't find any guide or whatnot that does this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortilox View Post
    Improved berserker stance gives a 20% reduction through talents. But still, I sometimes find myself holding back on some fights because I know I'm about to take threat from the tank and kill myself.
    Oops! I never really played my warrior at 80 anyways but I still feel silly for never knowing that.

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    2nd time in ICC, but as DPS this time, managed to down Sind tonight but I'm a bit confused on this boss. Raid leader told me to look on the floor on the bit where we gotta hide behind ice blocks, as it will tell me where her blasts will hit, so I can hide behind the block of ice the correct position.

    (I off-tanked all previous bosses before and we all went smoothly, although slowly, no wipes, as I was given a briefing on what to do as tank)

    The issue is, I'm having trouble seeing the "floor" markers, or seeing them at all, I'm unable to understand how to hide properly. I hear on vent "middle" "right" etc, which I guess is indications on where to hide, but I'm still getting hit some of the time.

    Can anyone give me some more insight? Some youtube vids are far too zoomed out too for me to pick up anything useful. I ended up dying towards Phase 3 as I was unable to reset my stacks, and the guild managed to kill it post-berserk, was a relief.

    Oh, and 0/2 on LK, people had to go, oddly enough , but I found Phase 1-2 of LK much easier than Sind lol (to understand). Never got far enough post that, on 2nd attempt the offtank died really early (but no explaination from anyone how, or that I can see). I doubt I'll be able to raid with them again due to work, or if I will even be allowed, I felt I was a load on them due to my deaths vs Sind , went 1/4 in the end and it was my first time fighting. And the other 9 guys have been doing it for ages.

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    You see a small swirly white marker on the floor where the breath orb is going to land, you need to have one of the iceblocks between you and that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stig View Post
    I hear on vent "middle" "right" etc, which I guess is indications on where to hide, but I'm still getting hit some of the time.
    They are calling where the block is going to land, so if they say "right" its on the right hand side, if your standing on the stairs, and thus need to los that bomb via the iceblock. You--Block--Bomb. The bombs can be all over the area, including touching the bottom of the stairs.

    edit: Galaika's post^

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    If you can't see the markers at all, check a video effects settings called "projected textures." You definitely want that enabled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Res View Post
    If you can't see the markers at all, check a video effects settings called "projected textures." You definitely want that enabled.
    I just checked, it was off. Thanks!

    Jintu+Galaika: Thanks for the info, I'll have to try again now if I ever go with guild again, otherwise, will need to pug it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek View Post
    So I just got my DK to 80 and geared it up as far as I could through heroics. Now my question is: as a frost tank, why should I ever use obliterate? I see no reason since spamming icy touch is far more threat. (IT, IT, PS, BS, BS, IT, IT, IT, IT, PS etc. with rune strikes and frost strikes)
    makes me think something like: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#j0EGZh...buzAo0x:kdsmMV would be optimal for single target.

    (This is all for single target. I realise using obliterate for free howling blasts would be good for onyxia whelps)
    I still withold that blood is better for single-target, but yeah, the point with using obli is for rime-procs, and spamming IT+BS will feed you RP like mad that can be unloaded with FS. just remember that IT counts as a spell so you might miss more then by using IT, PS, Ob/BS

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    I can't quite figure out how Unholy DK is generally viewed as the highest dps spec for DKs - it's probably just my inexperience with the spec in general, however.

    I tried to spec it this weekend with and without a ghoul, and without and with Reaping, but couldn't get the rotation down - always seemed like I had a rune down that I needed next for the rotation, and there was a 1-1.5 sec period where I had nothing to do but auto attack. My dps ended up about the same (900ish) on both setups, using both unholy presence and blood presence. Does the extra disease really make that much of a difference, or is it in the ghoul dps? I was trying it out since I'll probably be relegated to dpsing as Unholy when Cataclysm comes out ; ;

    I probably am guilty of giving up on it too quickly, but running a lot of 5-mans this weekend I geared up better and am doing just under 1000dps on Blood DPS spec.

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    non frost DK in heroics isn't really good. especially not unholy.

    either way 900ish dps doesn't sound right. you should at least do 1500 to 2000 dps in greens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek View Post
    non frost DK in heroics isn't really good. especially not unholy.

    either way 900ish dps doesn't sound right. you should at least do 1500 to 2000 dps in greens.
    im only lv 73 - running normal modes - so 1k ish is probably about right. my gear really isn't that good yet.

    armory

    edit: Ignore my glyphs, still in there from unholy spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Res View Post
    If you can't see the markers at all, check a video effects settings called "projected textures." You definitely want that enabled.
    Or if you see 9/10 or 24/25 of people running one way, or to one side of something, it might be a slight hint at the correct direction to move towards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thuronn View Post
    Or if you see 9/10 or 24/25 of people running one way, or to one side of something, it might be a slight hint at the correct direction to move towards.
    This is a terrible approach and I openly lambast anyone I see doing this in my raids.

    Learn the encounter, not how to be a sheep.

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    I haven't played WoW in 2-3 months since my work schedule during the summer kinda blocked me from doing raids so now that classes have started back up I have the nights my guild does events free again. I've noticed though that I now randomly get moments, for maybe a second or two, where my game freezes up like I'm getting a lag spike and I don't know what exactly is causing it. During the time I was gone I got a new video card (stronger than what I had before), changed to a wireless connection, and have uninstalled and reinstalled WoW.

    At first I thought it might be the fact that I changed to a wireless connection but after messing around with the router and other settings for my connection I still get random moments where the game freezes for a moment despite my latency being below 100ms almost all of the time. I've also tried messing with my graphic settings and have put them at close to what I believe they were set to on my last install as well but I have not done intensive testing with these options yet. If anyone could lend me a hand in figuring this out I'd be grateful for the help.

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    Okay, well first thing, is it actually FREEZING, like all motion on screen completely halts (this includes "fluff" like fires and other onscreen effects), or do people/things just stop moving around the room and attacking?

    This will largely determine what we have to focus on to troubleshoot.

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    Ok so I just got my first character to level 80 2 days ago (yay nubbie!).

    I decided to play a little more with UI than I did before. I really loved tukui from the screenshots so I installed it today, and while it looks great it's missing a lot of customization I'd like :<

    I'm playing a druid and was using bartender before, I had it setup so that each form had various bar setups, sadly it seems I can't do something like that with tukui since it just' uses the standard bars. So I thought I'd just enable bartender again and use it to put a couple of extra bars I might need. Sadly loading it made my skills disappear from tukui and be replaced wholly by bartender. I guess that was to be expected though...

    Anyway, my question is, is there any mod that would allow me to add extra bars while leaving the standard bars to tukui? Or maybe bartender has an option like that actually? (and before that: yea I know I could just use bartender to fit the icon into the tukui panels, but I really like how they look in tukui, while partender icons are just plain and simple)

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