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**Correction** · 2010-11-20 14:40

Why is Kaiju Gahzrilla randomly dropping aggro? He seems to have a punt move aside from his icicle and when he does it I guess I fall out of his attackable range and he goes after a random party member, but I don't get aggro back immediately when I land, and I can still taunt him to turn him around midair. What gives?

**The Stig** · 2010-11-20 14:59

Isn't that just a basic aggro reset move? That's how I saw it, didn't think too much about it.

**Norellicus** · 2010-11-20 17:09

Yeah I'm pretty sure that punt is aggro reset

**Tricen** · 2010-11-22 22:18

How the FUCK do I play subtlety rogue for pvp?

**Correction** · 2010-11-22 23:55

pvp in battlegrounds? What are you finding difficult, getting in range for an opener or finishing the job against an opponent that's getting healed?

**NotGreyheim** · 2010-11-23 00:44

Originally Posted by Tricen

How the FUCK do I play subtlety rogue for pvp?

Stealth up behind your opponent, Ambush, Eviscerate if not already dead, Vanish, repeat.

**Dontkare** · 2010-11-23 03:31

Originally Posted by Tricen

How the FUCK do I play subtlety rogue for pvp?

Premeditate > Shadowstep > Ambush > Eviscerate

**Tricen** · 2010-11-23 04:32

Do I even use hemo lol? I think I am specced really wrong. :< Everytime I engage someone I feel retarded and then I die.

**Dontkare** · 2010-11-23 06:08

Hemo is alright to pop if they aren't dead I suppose, always thought it was more of a PVE thing though

**Eaglestrike** · 2010-11-23 09:08

A Sub rogues plays like a complete and total pussy, or a smart tactician, depending on your bias. If you're getting attacked, Cloak and/or Sprint and vanish/run like a girl. You don't want to be out of stealth for more than 5-10s at a time.

I glyphed hemo on my rogue because bleeds fuck with other rogues, so they can't vanish on me (unless they're smart and do a vanish/ambush instantly) so I always make sure to hemo a rogue if he's got more hp than I can burst. And since this patch is nerfing ambush, that'll be a constant now.

Your exact rotation changes depending on what you're fighting and if you can burst them or not. Premed-ambush gives you 5 points, so you can open directly into a kidney shot for ambush + 6s of stun to make hemo, or you could take those 6s to run away and re-stealth, or you don't need the stun and can just ambush-evisc if they have low hp.

There's actually quite a bit of strategy in playing a rogue in PvP, which doesn't necessarily exist in a number of other classes because they only have 1-2 ways to fight something.

Anyway, no one commented on my last question. Leveling a shaman/warlock, haste trinkets or int trinkets?

**The Stig** · 2010-11-23 09:16

Thinking about starting a 3rd alt, for fun. Rogue!

I just need to know what I am putting myself up for effort wise.

I know weapons change depending on spec (from daggers to swords/axes) but do I need to collect/gear up different bits of gear? For example lets assume we're in Lich King era only, would I only have 1 set of Tier 10 to go for? Naturally there's a PvP stuff as well but lets disregard PvP for now.

Probably will never pimp/gear it up to the extreme. Mainly to try something different and/or as a lock-box whore.

EDIT: Didn't think to look in wiki, only 1 set needed for each tier, so I assume the same for T11 too! yay

**Dontkare** · 2010-11-23 09:55

Originally Posted by Eaglestrike

Anyway, no one commented on my last question. Leveling a shaman/warlock, haste trinkets or int trinkets?

I'm leveling a destro lock right now, and I think you'd benefit most from int. Now that it affects more than just your mana pool, it's really useful. Not to mention in destro you have talents to beef up your haste that will be up most of the time, I.E. Backdraft. As far as a shammy, mine is only level 33 and resto so I can't help you there

**Eaglestrike** · 2010-11-23 10:53

I'm leveling as affliction and elemental. I don't care for destro warlock, it seems like elemental shaman (lava burst + conflag being similar) but without the totems, heals, or Thunderstorm.

**Saxon** · 2010-11-23 10:53

Originally Posted by Eaglestrike

Anyway, no one commented on my last question. Leveling a shaman/warlock, haste trinkets or int trinkets?

Int for both.

**Dontkare** · 2010-11-23 11:08

Originally Posted by Eaglestrike

I'm leveling as affliction and elemental. I don't care for destro warlock, it seems like elemental shaman (lava burst + conflag being similar) but without the totems, heals, or Thunderstorm.

Never really played with affliction, although it would seem you'd want more int because most of your damage comes from instant casts except for unstable affliction. I also know next to nothing about ele shammy.

**Clemz** · 2010-11-23 11:54

Int is definitely the way to go for both while leveling.

**Eaglestrike** · 2010-11-23 13:13

So even with haste scaling with DoT's and mana never being a concern really, and haste effecting cast speeds, int is still better?

**Dontkare** · 2010-11-23 13:17

Int attributes to your mana pool, spell power, and spell crit chance. I'm almost 100% that int will do you better on ele shammy. Now that you reminded me of then haste/dots thing, I'm not entirely sure about afflic lock, something that relies on dots almost 100%. I guess somebody else will have to answer that one.

**Norellicus** · 2010-11-23 14:15

Your primary stat is always your go-to now, I don't think there's a single exception to this. It is your "do what you do best, only do more of it, and do it better" attribute.

Any secondary stat is exactly that, secondary. Choice between haste and Intellect = Intellect wins.

**Tajin** · 2010-11-23 19:04

Hit rating would be an exception, but kinda eh to stack hitrating while leveling.

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