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    Quote Originally Posted by Falisa View Post
    I'm shocked at how many guilds are 25 man still, barely seeing any 10 man only guilds.
    25m gives 2.5 times the amount of loot, more Valor per kill, and allows for better gear distribution to prevent epix gettin sharded. Faster guild leveling as well.

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    I'm thinking that's why they made the quest exp change. 25m guilds easily cap guild exp each day because of the greater amount of 4-5 member heroic groups that'll be formed and the dailies and everything. 10m guilds will only under perfect conditions have 2x heroic groups running (more likely some people do the daily before/after the raid and not all at once) and not as much quest exp from dailies. So this is a great reason to keep a 25m guild around.

    Now to keep the random question bit up: Do you need a certain amount of guild rep to gain heirlooms from the guild? Because currently it just lists you needing the achievement. Could I buy my way into a 25m guild once they're level 10/20 to buy the heirlooms and leave? Or would I need to build up to friendly/honored rep first?

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    They could have easily lowered the daily cap and not screwed over smaller groups. Ah well, if there wasn't anything to bitch about, I'd find something to bitch about.

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    Its so much of a headache to deal with those 15 more people though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falisa View Post
    Its so much of a headache to deal with those 15 more people though
    Yep, which is why we're not. But hopefully we can finish out our 10 man group and with alts have two groups run a few heroics a day to cap things out as needed.

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    So how hard is Throne of the Four Winds? The guild is comparing it in difficulty to Sartharion but I somehow doubt anything in Cata would be that easy. Not to mention the gear is all random stat mod shit, seems like a terrible instance to do first.

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    I was wondering the same thing. Since there are a couple of raid instances available now what the logical progression would be. So far I've yet to really dig into it with the guild I'm in but we've done Baradin Hold a couple of times now and dabbled a bit in Bastion of Twilight.

    I must say though, its easy epics to just do the starting trash in Bastion of Twilight and reset again over and over. We've done this 2 nights in a row with the guild and got quite some random gear drops (I think 2 staves, 2 bracers, a sword and a bit more since I wasn't there the first night).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falaras View Post
    So how hard is Throne of the Four Winds? The guild is comparing it in difficulty to Sartharion but I somehow doubt anything in Cata would be that easy. Not to mention the gear is all random stat mod shit, seems like a terrible instance to do first.
    I have done Magmaw, Malrioak, omnitron, Conclave of four winds, halfus, and the twin dragons and they are all pretty easy fights, the throne is a really easy fight.

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    Does anything contribute guild exp beyond quests, and "guild" dungeon/raid kills/bg/arena? According to blizzard, stuff like individual reputation gains, profession leveling, etc. were supposed to grant exp, but they never did on live as far as I can tell.

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    It's only what you listed above. Because the fact it takes a few months to reach rank 25 wasn't enough, they had to make the daily cap harder to reach also. In theory though, it only takes 2 heroics a day to cap it, which, if you have a reasonable sized guild, shouldn't be hard to do since ppl need their daily valor points anyways

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    Okay so I'm trying to figure out which trinkets to use for my OS tree set, some opinions would help a lot! My options are http://www.wowhead.com/item=56351 - http://www.wowhead.com/item=56320 and http://www.wowhead.com/item=62467 (I haven't actually bought this one yet but it's an option I'm considering)

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    I guess my small RL friends/bank guild is pretty dead as far as leveling is concerned. I thought about inviting some leveling people to help it along, but apparently blizzard took back the part about guild exp scaling with character level to make lowbies able to contribute something, because it does not scale at all. Leveling a goblin 1-15 for example was less exp than a single level 85 daily quest. And the amount of exp from you get from leveling 80-85 isn't even that much anymore, questing a character from 1-85 probably won't even get you anywhere near 1 daily cap worth of exp in total.

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Before when you would hit enter on a bg it would just idle and not let you in, and a blue post showed the macro to fix that.

    Now sometimes I get the message "You can't do that while queued for a battleground" (or something to that effect). And if I get that message when I hit the queue for a bg, it won't ever have a bg pop up for me, and I can't "leave" the queue (button still stays on my mini map).

    I have to log out then log in again and requeue.

    Is there any macros or something to queue for bgs vs. hitting the button so that doesn't happen? Or is this something that's happening to just me?

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    Haven't played since icecrown as introduced, and re-upped last night. Did they remove the ability to click off to the side of the screen to untarget a npc? It's driving me nuts. I know i can hit ESC to untarget but I got so accustomed to clicking to the side i miss it.

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    Haven't played since icecrown as introduced, and re-upped last night. Did they remove the ability to click off to the side of the screen to untarget a npc? It's driving me nuts. I know i can hit ESC to untarget but I got so accustomed to clicking to the side i miss it.
    see if you have sticky targeting selected in the interface options (you don't want it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan View Post
    I guess my small RL friends/bank guild is pretty dead as far as leveling is concerned. I thought about inviting some leveling people to help it along, but apparently blizzard took back the part about guild exp scaling with character level to make lowbies able to contribute something, because it does not scale at all. Leveling a goblin 1-15 for example was less exp than a single level 85 daily quest. And the amount of exp from you get from leveling 80-85 isn't even that much anymore, questing a character from 1-85 probably won't even get you anywhere near 1 daily cap worth of exp in total.
    My guild has 3 active players all with mains and alts. We're still level 2. The system doesn't work for small guilds. Oh well.

    Maybe sometime in 2013 we'll reach level 25. God only knows what the cap will be by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    see if you have sticky targeting selected in the interface options (you don't want it)
    Thank you sooo much.

    Edit: alright another question. Just installed cata, downloaded xloot and carbonite. put them in the addons folder yada yada, when i boot up the game, only xloot is showing up in the addons button. Any clue why? Both unzipped and placed in the same folder, no idea why xloot is loading but carbonite isnt.

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    The addon tab on the Interface in game or the one at character select? On the character select screen there's a Manage Addons(I think that's what it's called) button. Click it and make sure there is a check in the box for Carbonite. It might not be loading it because it's an out of date addon. If that's where you're at then I'm not sure.

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    the one at charater select. the version of carbonite i downloaded was dated dec 18th. there's no carbonite shown at all.

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    How much damage is mitigated by 400 resistances, 50% right? Or is resistance not linear.


    I guess i should grab Tol barad trinket...look decents in many encounter.


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    How damage reduction from resistance stack with other damage reduction from my skill?

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