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**Ishido** · 2011-01-20 03:46

Originally Posted by Tajin

How do I bear tank? I keep taking insane amounts of damage, and the gear is all 346 except the 333 bracers. Reforged some haste into dodge, which I can ofc reforge to mastery, but really I just hate having only two -damage CDs and barkskin aint that great to begin with :/

In heroics, bash is a mini survival CD as well. Hitting things more increases survivability via savage defense. Always use demo roar early if you think you will be taking a lot of damage, it will most likely (effectively) mitigate more damage than CDs. When in doubt, pop defensive CDs and berserk and tear shit up, with 3 targets up you will do massive amounts of DPS. For heroics make sure you have maul glyphed, there are more situations where it is useful than those where it is not. Frenzied Regen glyph is usually good, after the nerf to its healing the extra health and healing throughput makes it very powerful. Maul and mangle also apply druids' thunderclap (attack speed slow) debuff, make sure those are getting out.

**Ksandra** · 2011-01-20 13:00

Originally Posted by Guitarman

as in raidtarget? or quest location?

raid target. Mostly for bgs so when I target someone in the group to cure I can see what direction they are in if they go out of range.

**The Stig** · 2011-01-20 13:16

Quick one, macro again!

I've made some help chat macros for when I burn certain cooldowns as tank.

The format is as follows:

showtooltip {move}
/p (or /ra) using {move} {description of effect}
cast {move}

Is there any way to stop the text from firing unless the cast actually goes through? Sometimes I hit it early or accidently hit it when it's on cooldown but the text still comes up. Got me killed once when a guild mate decided I didn't need healing as I "used" Icebound Fortitude (it still had 1 min cool down) so he went to get a drink lol

**Norellicus** · 2011-01-20 13:33

Put the text after the cast. Macros stop on failures.

**aurik** · 2011-01-20 13:36

You can use complicated lua to determine whether you have actually cast the effect and print the text in that case only. I have one of these macros for a long time for battle res.

There are also mods that do that work for you. CastYeller comes to mind.

**Kaylia** · 2011-01-20 14:11

Originally Posted by Tajin

How do I bear tank? I keep taking insane amounts of damage, and the gear is all 346 except the 333 bracers. Reforged some haste into dodge, which I can ofc reforge to mastery, but really I just hate having only two -damage CDs and barkskin aint that great to begin with :/

Problem isnt you, but the mechanics involved in every pull. A simple CC will usually do the job, but you might want to stack with the dps, interupt the attack, dispel a buff, move away...etc

If you ignore these mechanics, it's quite normal to take assload of damage in a short time.

If you're talking about boss fight, then I don't know. I really can't think of any that hit very hard in heroic.

**Tajin** · 2011-01-20 15:47

Oh I've been doing CC myself, its just this raidleader was like 'you take too much damage' on the trash previous to magmaw, which tbh is hard for any tank and more so for a druid with only 3 shitty cooldowns, I feel naked. Nigs need better healers <.<

**Tajin** · 2011-01-20 15:48

Originally Posted by The Stig

Quick one, macro again!

I've made some help chat macros for when I burn certain cooldowns as tank.

The format is as follows:

showtooltip {move}
/p (or /ra) using {move} {description of effect}
cast {move}

Is there any way to stop the text from firing unless the cast actually goes through? Sometimes I hit it early or accidently hit it when it's on cooldown but the text still comes up. Got me killed once when a guild mate decided I didn't need healing as I "used" Icebound Fortitude (it still had 1 min cool down) so he went to get a drink lol

You should find an addon for that and not a macro, there's plenty that do that thing, I've seen it for warriors and druid tanks mostly.

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-a...kwarnings.aspx

**aurik** · 2011-01-20 15:56

The pre-magmaw trash pair are fairly predictable when they actually deal damage (hint: while the tank is stunned), so you probably just need better healers.

**Tajin** · 2011-01-20 16:01

Pretty much, kinda found out today said raid leader to be a noob when he ran straight into trash and got raped in Grim Batol, or failing to kill adds at the wolf guy in DM, I'm also a bit sad because getting the Erudax achievement is going to be harder on my paladin that it was on druid, bless infected wounds.

**Norellicus** · 2011-01-20 16:03

Edit: Nevermind I'm dumb

**Kaylia** · 2011-01-20 18:58

Originally Posted by Tajin

Oh I've been doing CC myself, its just this raidleader was like 'you take too much damage' on the trash previous to magmaw, which tbh is hard for any tank and more so for a druid with only 3 shitty cooldowns, I feel naked. Nigs need better healers <.<

Both adds hit like a truck after the swap (when they thunderclap rape you). There isn't much to do against them except popping a cooldown before the stun, and if none are up, its up to your healer to cure bomb you.

I hate blaming other, but you can only do so much as tank to reduce damage taken, especially spike damage like this.

**Bweigelt** · 2011-01-20 19:08

Originally Posted by Kaylia

Both adds hit like a truck after the swap (when they thunderclap rape you). There isn't much to do against them except popping a cooldown before the stun, and if none are up, its up to your healer to cure bomb you.

I hate blaming other, but you can only do so much as tank to reduce damage taken, especially spike damage like this.

You can actually pop a cooldown after the stun wears off if your quick and it will activate before the thunderclap goes off. The best way though is just to disarm them while they are running between tanks and that eliminates both the stun and damage.

**Tajin** · 2011-01-20 19:22

Oh didnt knew you could disarm them, then again I've been all of twice into BWD none of the trips anything to phone home about...

**Ksandra** · 2011-01-21 23:39

anyone got a basic holy pally pvp specthey could link? Want it for bgs since we always seem to severely lack healers.

**Tajin** · 2011-01-22 00:07

Something like: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#scIrorduh0d0bZcdM your choice of pursuit of justice/guardians favor/divinity thought dont think increased healing is gonna do much for your average BG.

**Ksandra** · 2011-01-22 00:25

kk thanks ^^

**Tajin** · 2011-01-22 00:34

So, I'm looking at sinestra recount of paragon and the tanks are doing 19k and 20k with a wooping 9 hit rating and 3 or so expertise.

**Aksannyi** · 2011-01-22 00:42

I know a quick google could answer this but I'm feeling lazy.

Started a new pally toon and she's level 15, decided to go Prot with her because I wanna try tanking (never tanked in WoW before, a handful of times in XI but two totally different games) so what stats would I want to maximize?

**Tajin** · 2011-01-22 01:08

while leveling? anything with block+ ---> Stam/str -> Hit/dodge -> expertise/parry At 85 mastery ------> dodge/stam --> parry -> hit/expertise.

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