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    any tank that can do magmaw can tank pretty much anything.

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    I actually think Maloriak is the easiest boss, it's not a tank check or heal check, there's very little raid awareness involved and is just a slight DPS check during the green phases. Especially now that the off-tank won't be frozen in blue phases it's even easier than it was before. Really as long as you have one reliable interrupt...

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    Maloriak is a tank check, fail to pick primes fast or have shit gear and you'll get raped by the lil ones, not to mention you cant really get to maloriak without killing omnotron

    But easiest is conclave imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tajin View Post
    How is chimaeron easier than atramedes lol?
    a vast majority of players can't deal with so much movement and environmental shit. chimaeron is just spread out, assign healers to groups, gather up for the knocked out robot +aoe heal. thats it

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    you only have to avoid 2 attacks really >.>

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    What specs do hunters level as these days?

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    Been using BM myself on my hunter. Not sure if that's the accepted spec for leveling, but I'd asked in my guild what was a good spec and that's what they told me I should use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tajin View Post
    you only have to avoid 2 attacks really >.>
    you'd be surprised at how many retards there are in this game lol

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    Well, I haven't played my hunter since before 4.06, but here's how I was doing it, I pvp a lot though:

    10-14 I did BM, intimidation was hax in super low wsg, flag carriers are just hopeless against it.

    15-29 I did Surv, explosive shot + 1 auto shot would kill most mobs, and most people for that matter.

    At 30 when dual spec comes in a I did a BM spec for covering for bad tanks, and again Surv as my main spec for both pve and pvp.

    This was before the huge buff to aimed shot, though, so I dunno now.

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    to be honest all 3 specs are viable for leveling with misdirect glyph (resets CD whenever you use it on pet) I imagine MM is still good at pvp even with the nerf, SV is still solid and BM is a beast if played right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falaras View Post
    What specs do hunters level as these days?
    The spec is 'get a bunch of heirlooms and turn everyone in WSG into PAINT'

    But if you're strictly PvE then BM for the movement speed bonuses. Movement speed bonus = levelling spec.

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    Before Rapid Killing + Rapid Recuperate = BM
    After = MM all the way for leveling. Unlimited focus + self heal is better than movement speed hands down.

    As far as raid encounters, for my guild magmaw is def easiest, when cata came out, we one shotted magmaw on 1st try and we never wipe on it ever.2nd easiest imo is atramedes, it's really hard to hit enrage and you can probably 5 man that fight if people dont stand in shit.

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    Do I want a Mage or DK alt for arenas?.

    Locks fun, trouble finding a decent team though. My DK is 71 and closer to 85 than my mage and I would have a TSG as soon as I hit 85. But there are more mages between 1800-2400 (super active teams) than DK's or Locks on my BG. Seems like mages would have an easier time getting higher rating. Could prob run RPM at 85 with that.

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    Honestly, DK is fun as fuck in arenas. My main is a hunter and it's so frustrating at times. After playing a hunter, playing on my DK is like having played WoW with training weights on. If you're any good at PvP you're just going to get pissed at Poly getting removed the second it lands and getting globaled by Warriors/Ferals/Rogues/Hunters/Rets/Enhance

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    Fresh 85 kitty druid in reg. dungeons, how do I actually contribute to non-boss fights? Seems I'm never quite in the right spot to spam Shred and my dots tick...twice...maybe before mobs die. Sometimes shit's dying before my FF CD is up.

    I don't really take trash dps that seriously but I hate that my numbers don't show until the first boss. Is JOHN FUCKING MADDEN messing with my head or am I doing it wrong?

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    The JFM isn't really the problem it used to be, odds are it's not you. IIRC, putting rake on everything is your best bet. Personally, I just burn what I can down as fast as possible and move on to the next, but I don't really watch the meters on non bosses, so someone else may have more experience there.

    Cat is just a long game class. Packs, if you're doing it right, are short game. I don't think we'll ever really match the way we want to on trash.

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    Odd question, is Holy Paladin DPS possible? I remember tanking a lich king dungeon once and a holy paladin of level 80 in basic gear pulling off 5~7k DPS (and he was queued as DPS). If so, I won't mind trying if it means I can play like a caster without healing responsibilities.

    EDIT: just to clarify why I asked, this is so I can try and fulfill, using casting and tanking gear, all 3 Paladin roles, without going Retribution spec.

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    Shockadin is possible, and pulls decent burst dps...as to whether or not you could sustain it...honestly I've never tried. Holy pallies in arenas will build a spec around exorcism/holy shock dps in order to help burst someone down (sometimes). The spec would require you to respec from a healing based spec to a dps spec.

    The short version is: You might pull 'ok' numbers, don't expect to raid as a shockadin. Don't try to shockadin as the standard holy healing spec, you'll go oom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction View Post
    Fresh 85 kitty druid in reg. dungeons, how do I actually contribute to non-boss fights? Seems I'm never quite in the right spot to spam Shred and my dots tick...twice...maybe before mobs die. Sometimes shit's dying before my FF CD is up.

    I don't really take trash dps that seriously but I hate that my numbers don't show until the first boss. Is JOHN FUCKING MADDEN messing with my head or am I doing it wrong?
    I find that Swipe is useless for trash packs unless you're hitting at least six different mobs with it. Like LD said, tab targeting rake is probably the better multi-target damage for smaller packs. However, if the trash packs you're pulling have low HP then just spam Swipe anyway and don't expect to pull omgawesomeAoEdps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odon View Post
    Honestly, DK is fun as fuck in arenas. My main is a hunter and it's so frustrating at times. After playing a hunter, playing on my DK is like having played WoW with training weights on. If you're any good at PvP you're just going to get pissed at Poly getting removed the second it lands and getting globaled by Warriors/Ferals/Rogues/Hunters/Rets/Enhance
    It's pretty depressing how we've gone from the start of cata to now. NS started out insanely good, now it's just another tool. Pet damage went completely to shit, death coil dmg too, both mobility buffs got nerfed within days (well, one was a bug fix).

    Probably the thing that's most frustrating is that they basically said they wanted to move pet damage to the DK, and they kind of did, although the actual damage increase was not as much as the nerfs to pet, especially since the death coil nerfs.

    The thing is, that concept doesn't apply to pvp. Making scourge strike better doesn't matter when you're using NS 99% of the time. So basically, rather than transferring the damage to the DK, in pvp it's just a straight up bigass damage nerf, again especially because of the death coil nerfs.

    In the end I basically got a little bit of a mobility buff in exchange for hugely lowered damage, even after factoring the increase in personal uptime. Not to mention, frost gained virtually no actual mobility, just uptime and burst, which is pretty ironic considering it was already bursty as hell and the big issue for both specs was escapability, not time on target.


    It's definitely still fun though, and since the nerfs to UH I'm happy to go back to frost, which I liked better anyway, especially for rated bg's.


    @stig you can dps fine as prot

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