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[Kurp]

Trying to piece together some PvP gear for my mage.

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My mage has a good set of basic and easy to get PvP gear, if you want to check it out. Armory

I think the stat balance is pretty good for what I have to work with. I'm a little low on Spell Pen, but I don't want to change my gems around any more since I use some of that stuff for PvE.

Korietsu pretty much covered the other questions.

I'm actually having fun with Mage PvP, I almost want to start playing arena seriously again. Almost..

[Warudo Ecksu]

Get your SV hunter DPS in while you still can, they're pretty ridiculously OP right now.

Overpowered in PvP maybe, not in PvE. Hunter was ridiculously OP when we were all BM and always had top spots on WWS. It's not like that so much these days. Equally geared/skilled rogues, DKs, enh shamans, and mages out-dps hunters.

what's the preferred AP/DPS for raid like naxx/eoe?

im hovering around 4k AP unbuffed w/ 2,4k dps on lv80 training dummy

With JC and enchanting, and in almost full 25man gear, couple pieces of 10man gear, I'm sitting on 5.2k AP with only aspect of the dragonhawk (my sig's AP and agility are wrong).

[Plow]

Overpowered in PvP maybe, not in PvE. Hunter was ridiculously OP when we were all BM and always had top spots on WWS. It's not like that so much these days. Equally geared/skilled rogues, DKs, enh shamans, and mages out-dps hunters.

3.1 bm pets are doing 4k in ulduar lol

[Lordwafik]

Be Imba! - the online Character Auditor for World of Warcraft

Going by this, It's saying I could use upgrades from all those zones, but with my current gear I'm more than able to do them, right?

Also another random question : The other day I was denied to a malygos fight because my unbuffed spellpower was 1650 and not 2000+ (and then proceeded to keep shouting in the LFG channel for over an hour for a resto druid kekeke) , am I underspellpowered for raiding the more challenging things or was he expecting too much?

I'm sure I could bump a lot of +spellpower on a bunch of my things with enchants, just didn't want to spend a ton of gold right away.

[Plow]

Be Imba! - the online Character Auditor for World of Warcraft

Going by this, It's saying I could use upgrades from all those zones, but with my current gear I'm more than able to do them, right?

Judging by your be.imba score you should be good for anything short of sarth 10+2d or 25+3d. As far as the upgrades, it's saying you don't have much at all to upgrade in 10 mans, but a lot you can upgrade in 25's.

Also another random question : The other day I was denied to a malygos fight because my unbuffed spellpower was 1650 and not 2000+ (and then proceeded to keep shouting in the LFG channel for over an hour for a resto druid kekeke) , am I underspellpowered for raiding the more challenging things or was he expecting too much?

Entirely depends on how good you are. If it's someone that I don't know is good, there's no way they're getting in a pug I run with 16xx sp, on the other hand I've tanked a 10 man naxx with a good geared priest and an unbelievably horribly geared pally in ret quest greens and shit as our 2 healers. But, that's because I know he's good.

Honestly for 10 man at this point it shouldn't be an issue, the general level of experience and gear all around is good enough that you don't need to worry much unless you're going for 8/20 man or 6 minute.

I'm sure I could bump a lot of +spellpower on a bunch of my things with enchants, just didn't want to spend a ton of gold right away.

Gold is really easy to come by in WoW, you really don't need to save that much, and it's not that expensive atm since people have been capped on gear for quite a while. Get your bottom of the line enchants on bracers/gloves/shoulders/rings and you'll really see a notable difference in your capability.

[Warudo Ecksu]

3.1 bm pets are doing 4k in ulduar lol

I hate bm so much

@wafik, Until you get ~2k SP a lot of ppl will deny you for groups. I'm at 2.1k with inner fire in 10man pieces, and until I was sitting on 1900, I had a hard time getting invited to even Naxx groups.

EoE is pretty healing intensive, too. Definitely take your time getting geared before you head into that place.

[aurik]

Always lie about your spellpower. Also, most pug raid leaders don't understand that different classes roll with different amounts of raw spellpower. "2k" is a pretty harsh target and even in tree-form I didn't have that until I was wearing a number of 213s with 200s in every other slot.

Even with fairly solid gear (missing a few 213, and I could improve my gemming but I'm OCD about socket bonuses ) my non-tree non-buffed spellpower is well below 2k on armory.

[Warudo Ecksu]

Lying about your SP doesn't work with competent raid leaders who check armories as well since most will look at your gear and your achievements. 2k is an easy goal, considering healers in full 25man gear will be sitting around 2300-2500 depending on class.

[Shuemue]

So I'm gradually gearing up my mage, running a few heroics and farming rep etc

What kind of stats should I be looking at before I consider trying to raid? I'm talking in terms of unbuffed SP, hit%, haste, crit

[aurik]

Lying about your SP doesn't work with competent raid leaders who check armories as well since most will look at your gear and your achievements. 2k is an easy goal, considering healers in full 25man gear will be sitting around 2300-2500 depending on class.

Competent raid leaders won't ask for stupid shit like 2k unbuffed SP to heal maly10. Armory also doesn't give a good value for SP, because it doesn't account for self-only buffs. One of the best geared resto druid on my server armorys for just over 2k. Obviously, that's really far from the amount of SP he packs in combat, with full stacks of IDS and MDF running, tree form, food, flask, and raid buffs...

[Korietsu]

So I'm gradually gearing up my mage, running a few heroics and farming rep etc

What kind of stats should I be looking at before I consider trying to raid? I'm talking in terms of unbuffed SP, hit%, haste, crit

You need 17% hit to be capped against boss level targets.

With arcane, you'll have +6% hit with the 57/3/11 build, requiring 11% from gear, and 8% with a spriest/boomkin.

FFB requires 14% hit, and TTW-Fire requires all 17 without boomkin/spriest and requires mostly BIS gear to do.

To start naxx as FFB you'll want around 1600SP, 30% fire crit with MA/AI up, ~200 haste, and to be hit capped.

As arcane, you'll be stacking haste, and using less crit on gear.

Hit up H-VH for Bracers, H-Occulus for a weapon or you can go MH/OH with the spell scalpel and badge offhand. H-VH for Mark of the War Prisoner

Badge Neck (Gold chains), Sundial of the Exiled, Wyrmrest Exalted Shoes, Wand off of H-OK or AN final boss, or wand off first boss in H-UTK.

Ring from both either H-CoS or H-UK + Titanium Spellshock Ring with +19 SP gem.

WG +hit helm is a good stand in till naxx gear, socket with Chaotic Skyflare Diamond, and +19 SP.

Can pick up crafted ebonweave items if you want for a ton of hit/sd/stam/int, although chances are you can pick up a better robe in naxx before getting one crafted.

Looking in stat order for priority for early raiding, Hit (to cap) > SP > Crit/Haste (Spec Dependent)

Running Arcane-IV, while you can sustain it, Ablast x3, Abarr or MB Arc Missiles on proc. Drop to ABx1 Abarr x1 for low mana segments. Glyph Arcane Missles, Arcane Blast and Mage Armor/Molten Armor

Running FFB, LB > Scorch x2, Frostfire Bolt until LB needs to be refreshed. On Hotstreak, Scorch > Pyro > Refresh LB or continue FFB. Glyph Molten Armor, Scorch, Frostfire.

Have fun playing your mage =o.

[Plow]

Don't forget you have 1% hit if you're draenei or in group with one as well.

As arcane I keep an 11% set, a 10% set, an 8% set, and a 7% set ready at all times, trading hit out for other things depending on what I have in group between spriest/boomkin/draenei.

For fire you need 14%, 13%, 11%, 10% setups.

[Korietsu]

Don't forget you have 1% hit if you're draenei or in group with one as well.

As arcane I keep an 11% set, a 10% set, an 8% set, and a 7% set ready at all times, trading hit out for other things depending on what I have in group between spriest/boomkin/draenei.

For fire you need 14%, 13%, 11%, 10% setups.

I keep forgetting how OP the space goat racial is since I play horde.

[Shuemue]

Have fun playing your mage =o.

great info, thanks

that's the rotation I'm already using (FFB) and I'm using this Best Non-Raid Mage Gear - Elitist Jerks to find upgrades until I'm not quite so scrub and can go wipe raids.

[raginbull]

Why did Warlocks go from being one of the most powerful classes to being constantly maligned?

[Warudo Ecksu]

Competent raid leaders won't ask for stupid shit like 2k unbuffed SP to heal maly10. Armory also doesn't give a good value for SP, because it doesn't account for self-only buffs. One of the best geared resto druid on my server armorys for just over 2k. Obviously, that's really far from the amount of SP he packs in combat, with full stacks of IDS and MDF running, tree form, food, flask, and raid buffs...

People don't look at armory for just stats. They look at the gear and achievements. Obviously SP is always different with buffs, etc. If a person has half blues I wouldn't invite them.

[Correction]

Why did Warlocks go from being one of the most powerful classes to being constantly maligned?

Because Destro Warlock isn't a one-button class anymore.

Because all they did for Afflic warlocks was add yet another spell WITH a cast time to juggle into an already complicated rotation.

Because Demo Warlock...I dunno, I guess if you wanted to melee the boss you'd have picked a melee class.

I think they all rolled DKs anyway.

[Boyiee]

People don't look at armory for just stats. They look at the gear and achievements. Obviously SP is always different with buffs, etc. If a person has half blues I wouldn't invite them.

When pugs go up on my server, and people get armoried, they only look at purples and SP/AP.... I swear so many pugs I join where the leader says they are armorying, and then you check a few people out yourself and they are running nice sp/ap but 100hit lol.

[Plow]

I think they all rolled DKs anyway.

This, plus spriest are doing retarded hax dmg while giving monumentally better raid buffs.

[Lordwafik]

I've done Sarth a lot with a few pugs, 10 man 0 drake, and 25 man 0 drake, the 10 man is obviously easy peasy and anyone with a brain willl go 1/1 on this fight.

How vastly does the fight change with only 1 drake up? (I know it's very hard with 3). We're in early naxx gear as in not many of us are too geared with nax, most of us have heroic/emblem purples, starting to run guild+pug VoA's as well for gear and getting people there, hence why I wanna do OS+1Drake I feel 0drake is a waste kinda.

I'll hunt the net for strategies, just curious on how hard the difficulty changes with 1 drake up. Thanks!