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[The Stig]

Not a vet paladin but I consider myself awesome! =)

I glyphed my conscret, to be honest it's not snap or good threat or good damage (I think) at all, so it shouldn't make any difference.

Single Target Threat (boss)
Divine Plea on pull, judgetment, shield of the righteous. Optionally you can wings on pull too.
Alternative: Divine Plea -> Wings > Exorcism > judgement> shield bash it as it gets close > normal rotation CS HW CS Judge CS Shield bash CS ...

AOE Threat
Best to jump in, consecrate, get 3 holy power, use inquistion and spam Hammer of the Righteous, topping up Inquistion when it falls off, and the your usual fillers in between hammers (so, yes, to answer your 3rd question)

Holy Shield
Player choice I guess, but I now hit it manually, but I know what you mean by forgetting about it. Since Word lf Glory has a 20s cool down, I used to macro it to that. If you need to Word of Glory yourself for whatever reason, chances are that you need some form of increase damage reduction as well.

This applies on my DK in a way, I macro my engineer armor glove enchant to Vampiric Blood/Rune Tap, in the effect that if I needed extra healing/health for whatever reason, chances are I need to smooth/reduce my incoming damage a little.

EDIT:

I forgot to add, but if you dump taunt into your initial rotation it'll gaurantee the mob to be glued to you. I did that before the threat bumps/changes, but still do it now as there's always a possibility of your Shield (or my Death/Rune Strike) missing its target and at that split second the DPS could pull ahead of you.

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I'm surprised you found Paladin tanking more difficult! Before Patch 4.0/during 3.5, DKs were the ones struggling with Threat/AOE (from my experience), this turned around gradually and then when I went back to Paladin tanking I found it extremely dull.

DK's threat is significantly higher than the other 2 classes (Druid seems to be equal). If Death Strike criticals I climb up the meter by 300k threat, it's hella fun to suddenly out threat my co-tanks.

I love hearing on vent "uhh, Stig, stop!!!" or something. haha, sometimes I get trigger happy and death strike once or twice more after co-tank taunts, but if both crits I'm sudden 600k+ threat ahead!

EDIT: Rune Strike, which wasn't usable immediately in 3.5/4.0 under Blood Presence, created some problems, and the removed Threat Boost from Icy Touch didn't help things much, hence the struggle.

But yeh otherwise I enjoy the reactiveness of DK tanking.

[Tomino]

I found DK tanking quite hard pre-Zandalari, but once i got my gnome geared, it all became quite easy and, most of all, amusing and catching.
DKs have the proper amout of core abilities, imho, and don't get lost with 12+ skills like Paladins.

Also, Rune-managing is much more fun than the Holypower minigame, which really gets boring after a while.

In the end, if i can spend less time watching which skills are on cooldown, i can dedicate more to movement, tricks and anything going wrong.

[Gulkeeva]

I just signed up for a month for the first time since... the free week they gave when FL came out. Anyways, after a week I'm capped on hp/jp/weekly vp and I have all the 359's I can use on 2 specs from jp. I have no real interest in pvp or raiding (anymore) so I'm basically throwing away 3/4 of my sub fee now.

This is probably inappropriate and all, but does anyone know a legit (relative term I know) gold 4 game time web site so I can keep checking in/getting some VP now and then without throwing away cash until the patch? I know the /shouters do the fake cc scam and the time gets taken off after you pay them, but I have found some sites like gold4key that might be worth the gamble for me (max of 80k g for 2 months). Anyone tried and succeeded at the gold 4 time angle? Where?

Better to talk with guild members members for gold 4 time thing.

at the moment people in my guild (when they do sell game time cards) its average 1000g = $1
Doing so in a raiding guild thats doing decent progression, you'll less likely get ripped off unless they want to lose their guild spot and all.

How much dps should I be doing in random heroic pugs atm?
I've been doing around 16-20k depending on the fight, peaking around 28k in aoe stuff. I don't remember for sure, but I think I was doing about 15-16k on dummies as unholy when I quit, so it seems like with luck of the draw and a few decent upgrades I should be sitting at the very least at 20k on single target bosses, but I'm not. I'm generally around 16k on single target in heroics. Not sure if it's just an issue of needing to practice current priorities and just general rust, or if I'm doing something way wrong and am even farther off than I should be.

Thats alot compared to most any pugs I seen in a heroic. I've been doing alot quick run 5man heroics since their alot faster then za/zg and haven't seen many go past the 14K mark (most dk's I see do about 6-9K) unless its some FL geared out person like me.

[Plow]

Could any veteran Prot Paladin help me out with a few suggestions or tricks, especially pull-related?
Coming back to pally from my DK, I just have so many things to keep my eyes on I end up messing up a lot of times. Plus, even now that their gear is almost on par (5man HC level), I have way more troubles with threat-on-pull with my Pally than my DK.
Couple doubts, as well:

- Is Consecration glyph worth? The extra cooldown messes when I'm pulling trash packs, or moving.
- Would you suggest to macro HS with other skills, or have it as (yet another) button? I'm inclined toward the latter, but sometimes I just forget about it.
- Should I prefer Inquisition over SotR full-time when doing 3+ mobs?

boss or trash or heroic or?

http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t126438-...end_me_my_way/

start there

for boss pull:

1) Divine Plea : add 3 Holy Power
2) Inquisition : consume 3 Holy Power and +30% damage for 12 seconds
3) Pop Wings AW + Exorcism (same key macro ideally) : +20% damage 20 seconds + 1.5 second cast time, use it for your first hit on raid boss
4) Judgment (assumes Impr Judgement talent) : instant cast as you run in towards boss to engage
5) Avengers Shield (assumes Focused Shield glyph) : instant cast as you engage (still at distance or melee range)
6) Start rotation

[The Stig]

Found this on WoWHead but no indicator what the items are: HALP!!!! I NEED TO LOOK LIKE THIS - Spoiled for BIG

Spoiler: show

http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screen...mal/244300.jpg

I only know the weapon and I don't care about Thunderfury.

EDIT: nevermind, someone just told me it's "fake" priest T6 ... won't ever be able to use it

[Correction]

Did I miss something? Why am I getting queued visiting a URL I clicked from the WoW launcher?

[Boyiee]

Last night I had a 33,000+ wait for bnet and the wait was over 1.5 hours.

I left it open thinking it would randomly jump to me in que faster than that, like most ques, but I was wrong. I tabbed back and still had well over an hour to go. I went to bed.

this was at like 1-2am, not really sure how it had that kind of traffic that late.

[Tomino]

http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t126438-...end_me_my_way/
start there

Most issues I have with Paladin revole around "oh-shit" situations. It could be that I'm less geared than my DK ( 363 vs 358 ), but whenever DPSes overaggro, and one CS misses slowling my HolyP generation by about 4-5 seconds, I feel quite frustrated.
It feels like DK's dps output is so superior that mobs stick to her and I can focus on mitigating/survival, while on Paladin I have to struggle for that. Then again, it could just be a gear level issue.

[Kaylia]

Threat shouldn't be an issue after the first 4-5 sec unless your hammer of the righteous isnt hitting everything. On single target, it's virtually impossible to lose threat after the first Shield, and on multi target, it's rare.

If a dps does manage to pull aggro for w/e reason, use righteous defense on him right away (mine is bound to the middle mouse button and I use it whenever a portrait turn red). On single target, you're better of with hand of reckoning

[etelosbo]

Just picked up warlock(affliction) and enjoying it. It seems to have a few debuffs that increase the dot damage - shadow embrace, death's embrace/(drain soul)mob below 25%, etc..

Do I have to refresh all my dots when these become active?

If so:
1) Is there an option to see HP% or do I need an addon?
2) What is the best way to work with shadow embrace?


I primarily focus on PVP, but I will be doing some PVE to acquire the T13 gear for transmog.

[Synbios]

Anyone know of a good leveling guide up to about 58? I am leveling a pally which is my first character to start from scratch in like 3 years and I'm kind of stuck on where to go. I did the whole starting blood elf area and after some instances am level 26, but not sure where to head for questing. Once I hit 58 I figure it's just Outlands -> northrend -> cata areas, right?

[etelosbo]

At 58 you have the right idea. Before that you can pretty much just follow the boards in town that give you quests telling you where to go. Also you can use http://www.wowwiki.com/Zones_by_level

[Noobta]

Anyone know of a good leveling guide up to about 58? I am leveling a pally which is my first character to start from scratch in like 3 years and I'm kind of stuck on where to go. I did the whole starting blood elf area and after some instances am level 26, but not sure where to head for questing. Once I hit 58 I figure it's just Outlands -> northrend -> cata areas, right?

Check the bulletin boards in cities. Should give you a quest to go a zone to level in every 5? levels.

[Norellicus]

Hero Boards are pretty on point for level ranges, take an assignment from one and go until quests are turning green everywhere, should be a new area available at the board at that point.

[Synbios]

Thanks guys. I'm leveling in full BOA and seem to be tearing through these places really fast. Any city (Horde side) that I should focus on? I'm thinking I'm probably best focusing on just the Org boards if I can. Is that a good idea?

[The Stig]

They all are the same, more or less. What I meant was that you can't go wrong with them, but some people might favour certain places over other. The board won't send you across the world usually and will remain on that continent.

[Leashedragon]

Found this on WoWHead but no indicator what the items are: HALP!!!! I NEED TO LOOK LIKE THIS - Spoiled for BIG

Spoiler: show

http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screen...mal/244300.jpg

I only know the weapon and I don't care about Thunderfury.

EDIT: nevermind, someone just told me it's "fake" priest T6 ... won't ever be able to use it

It may be Priest Tier look-a-like, but the items do not require you to be a Priest to wear them.

http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=410
^That's the full set of purple items that look like it. None seem to require a class to wear, just that you be level 70. Looks to be drops from BT bosses.

http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=603
^This is the Priest Tier set that it's based off of.

[Plow]

16-20k dps is actually pretty good in mostly blues. Most pug dks I see in full za/zg gear do much worse. If you plan to keep playing 4.3 which should come out first week of December just make sure your justice points are capped so you can quickly get the ilvl 378 tier and off pieces. If you get full ilvl 353/359 with some valor point tier pieces 22-26k should easily be obtainable single target in heroics. If you feel that you dont quite understand the 'rotation' try downloading CLCdk addon. It will help with the basics until you get use to forcing the right runes to come off cooldown with runic empowerment.

so yeah I've been working on it but not making much progress... and then I just now realized that RE only procs on fully gone runes... I totally though it was any with 1 inactive

/facepalm

and yeah I'm getting tier legs with valor next week and will get chest and hands with justice the next week, and the group I joined up to raid with only 2 of us rolled on shoulders last night, so I should get them soon as well to get 4 piece

other than that my gear is pretty decent really with all the rep crap and random stuff I've picked up here and there


also I tried the "shadowfrost 2.0 build" which is really more like frostfrost but... holy shit, so much rape in pvp and in heroics and trash, and barely behind oblit build in single target, that shit is fun

[Guitarman]

To the handful of you that's killed H Rag: Any special tips or tricks you used to down him? I heard Paragon used weird trinkets like sorrowsong or somesuch to help with their kill. We're getting close to a kill, but we just need that extra oomph to get the win.

[hopefulki]

We had our casters use sorrowsong due to the burn phase + last phase being the only important part of it.

Also, are you pushing 1 meteor? if you want to PM me i'll help however I can.

Waiting for the engulfing to happen before you push the 40% for extra DPS helps too.. hold him @ 41%, engulfing, and you push him during, he should hit 37-38% during the engulfing - every little bit helps. Hold CDs to get it to 1 meteor.

*EDIT*: Also, keep 1 add alive during 2nd transition so you have time to burn scions. you have appx 3 sec to kill it when Rag emerges before it auto wipes the raid. (keep it low enough to be 1-2 shotted FAST).