Random Question Thread

**FailureMidgard** · 2011-11-22 04:25

Originally Posted by hopefulki

We had our casters use sorrowsong due to the burn phase + last phase being the only important part of it.

Also, are you pushing 1 meteor? if you want to PM me i'll help however I can.

Yea, answer this question first...are you having issues with 2 meteors, or struggling in P4 or something? If you're still in P3, sorry, but you're not as close to a kill as you think. :/

Waiting for the engulfing to happen before you push the 40% for extra DPS helps too.. hold him @ 41%, engulfing, and you push him during, he should hit 37-38% during the engulfing - every little bit helps. Hold CDs to get it to 1 meteor.

This is really not correct. Its easy to get it to 37.x without an engulfing at all (just stand still and burn...).
Use 1minute click trinkets from FL rep. You can get 1 click at 41% during that mini-burn, 1 click right as P3 starts and you lust, and a final click after the 2nd WiF ends. Basically, when you only look at the 90seconds (+ initial burn from 2>2transition), it will beat out virtually any other trinket. Sustained damage is quite irrelevant on Rag. Also fwiw, in P4 the click lines up perfectly with vulns, further inflating it's use there, though DPS isn't really a huge deal in P4.

*EDIT*: Also, keep 1 add alive during 2nd transition so you have time to burn scions. you have appx 3 sec to kill it when Rag emerges before it auto wipes the raid. (keep it low enough to be 1-2 shotted FAST).

Definitely do this.

Originally Posted by Guitarman

To the handful of you that's killed H Rag: Any special tips or tricks you used to down him? I heard Paragon used weird trinkets like sorrowsong or somesuch to help with their kill. We're getting close to a kill, but we just need that extra oomph to get the win.

In addition to what's been said;
-Have tanks spec for DPSish stuff.
-Make sure your raid is split in half at opposite ends, and make sure your split is smart (in 10m anyway). Aka, have 5% crit on both ends if able...have WF on the side with all the physical, spellhaste on other side.
-Maximize time any melee DPS are behind the target: Have tank on Side 1 tank for most the time, Side 2's tank taunts on the 3rd tick of the 2nd WiF. 1st tank should have ~5 sec left on the DoT at this point. Tank #1 taunts back as soon as DoT falls. The tank on the "melee side" only tanks for 5 seconds.

Past that (and I mean no offense), but I'm sure some people are doing some shit wrong, try to figure out what it is and help them correct it.

**Mortilox** · 2011-11-22 19:02

Do 25 man bosses always drop 6 items but in pairs of two? Or can all drops be completely randomized?

**Anakron** · 2011-11-22 19:21

Not exactly a random question, but just wanted to post here that the Cataclysm Collector's Edition is $40 at Best Buy: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/World+of...&skuId=1255535 if any of you guys don't browse the game deals thread.

**Anakron** · 2011-11-25 05:10

At what point does the recruiter in the Recruit-A-Friend program get 1 month free? As soon as the recruit buys the game, or does the recruit need to buy the game, then pay for 1 (extra) month?

**Noobta** · 2011-11-25 08:24

Originally Posted by Anakron

At what point does the recruiter in the Recruit-A-Friend program get 1 month free? As soon as the recruit buys the game, or does the recruit need to buy the game, then pay for 1 (extra) month?

Pay for 1 month for game time, 2 for mount.

**Boyiee** · 2011-11-25 22:30

Yes, the RAF needs to own the game and pay for a couple months.

Basically, the 3rd month anniversary of the RAF is when you both get the mount rewards.

**Mortilox** · 2011-11-26 03:37

What is the best fishing pool to fish from in Cataclysm pools? I'm looking for abundance more than profit, guild needs 10,000 fish achievement.

Also, does anyone think I could get someone in the guild to do this for us? I'll gladly pay like 1,000g for each 500 fish they reel up

**Leashedragon** · 2011-11-26 06:42

I'm not sure about Cata pools. I haven't fished in a while and only use to fish for Feast making before the guild provided the mats. Sometimes I'd get good streaks of Guppy pools, aaaaand sometimes I couldn't find a single damn one.

We did our Seafood Feast Achievement in Borean Tundra. Just had a few from the guild come out around the lake in the middle. Had a bunch fish while a few people killed animals and got the blood on them then flew back to where everyone was fishing and dropped the blood pool in the water. There's a nice supply of mammoths right next to the lake, as well as some deer nearby. Easy and fast way if you can get a group together. Only took a few hours to do.

**CoronA1979** · 2011-11-26 12:06

Originally Posted by Xiani

I'm not sure about Cata pools. I haven't fished in a while and only use to fish for Feast making before the guild provided the mats. Sometimes I'd get good streaks of Guppy pools, aaaaand sometimes I couldn't find a single damn one.

The reason you sometimes couldn't find one is because the spawns are shared w/ the rockfish pools down south. I used to go out and farm guppy's for feasts as well and ended up having to clear multiple pools down south of rockfish and then flying back up north and the guppy pools and respawned. If all you want is pools, something like the rockfin pools in Highlands isn't a bad idea because absolutely nobody wants them and when you run out just follow the river up to the loch and your bound to find some guppy pools, which may or may not be profitable on your server.

**Anakron** · 2011-11-26 14:58

Ok, so my (MM) Hunter is 63 now, and I took the advice of getting the first Outland quest bow, but I still find my damage to be pretty weak (~15-20% of the party's damage). I think the problem is mainly on large pulls of 5+ Elites. What I'd do is launch an Explosive Trap, and then spam Multi-Shot. But after that, mobs are under 50% so they don't really last long enough for a Steady Shot, and sometimes they drop so fast I can't even get a Kill Shot off, so I end up auto-shotting for the 2nd half of the health which kinda sucks.

Am I doing anything wrong?

**Guitarman** · 2011-11-26 15:26

Not sure about lower levels, but at 85 explosive is complete ass. like 65dmg/tick, so don't bother setting that up. Just hunters mark one of the mobs and spam multi, finish mobs off with steady shot so you're up to full for the next pack. you really can't do anything else. If they're dying that fast it's because your groups output is good. So take it as a positive.

**BadKarma** · 2011-11-26 15:46

The thing youre doing wrong is using MM before a 365ish ilevel. SV is the way to go till then

**jmc** · 2011-11-26 15:58

So is 4.3 coming out on tuesday, or still unknown?

Trying to figure out if I should bother capping VP this week.... if I cap this week, i'm still 200 points off from body for my holy spec so would just be wasted time when they reset. lol

**Boyiee** · 2011-11-26 16:02

Probably NEXT tuesday

**jmc** · 2011-11-26 16:15

Originally Posted by Boyiee

Probably NEXT tuesday

Ok, that will work for me.

**FailureMidgard** · 2011-11-26 16:30

Originally Posted by Guitarman

Not sure about lower levels, but at 85 explosive is complete ass. like 65dmg/tick, so don't bother setting that up. Just hunters mark one of the mobs and spam multi, finish mobs off with steady shot so you're up to full for the next pack. you really can't do anything else. If they're dying that fast it's because your groups output is good. So take it as a positive.

Are you naked? Mine ticks for 1400 noncrit, multishot does 6300 noncrit. So 5 ticks makes it better DPS than multi, but it costs 0 or 10 focus, so 3 ticks makes it better DPF than multi (assuming you launch it). If you don't launch it for whatever reason, it's definitely worth it (or if you user launcher 2-3 sec before pull, then let focus tick back up).

2 other tips w/ multishot though:
1. Fire off the first multishot, then pause and let bombardment proc (this is assuming your crit isn't awful...if your crit is awful just go respec survival like someone said). If you fire 2 multishots on 2 back-to-back gcds with no pause, they will be 40+40 focus for 80 focus which is awful. You need to fire 1, then pause and wait for bombardment, then open up (good time to launch an explosive).
2. Strafe slightly while multi-shotting. May not matter in some instances, but it may on your opening shot, or if someone pulls hate or if 1 is a caster. If you are in motion when multi-shot fires, it will have a wider firing arc and will hit more targets, unless they are packed tight.

Also, do you have Rapid Recup + 1 in Rapid Killing? 'cause it's pretty huge for maintaining focus.

**Boyiee** · 2011-11-26 17:16

Warglaive dropped off illidan, master looter was downstairs and logged off right as illidan died (shaman). Some other guy ended up with ML and couldn't loot it, but did rolls. Wonder if a GM could hook me up...

edit: guy logged back in 10 minutes later, looted glaive to the guy who had highest roll while he was offline but did rerolls on everything else.

**Guitarman** · 2011-11-27 02:56

Are you naked? Mine ticks for 1400 noncrit, multishot does 6300 noncrit.

you don't have expertise i hope?

**Guitarman** · 2011-11-27 14:19

So i'm looking to get into pvp finally. Which is more of a beast? Warlock or Rogue?

**Clash Perez** · 2011-11-27 20:36

What's the deal with using turkeys for cooking skill-ups? Is this something I have time to abuse before the event ends?

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