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[Rama]

Lightweave is hawt in 3.1 PTR... will it stay so or be nerfed? (changed to chance-on-spell of 250SP for 15s for those who've missed it)

thinking about picking up tailoring all of the sudden.

also. Assuming it's a fight where you don't need Runic Mana potion, which is better: Potion of speed (500 haste) or Potion of wild magic (200SP 200crit)? Been using speed stacked w/ Bloodlust, never tried the wild magic stuff.

[Blackice]

Edit, wrong thread

[Plow]

Lightweave is hawt in 3.1 PTR... will it stay so or be nerfed? (changed to chance-on-spell of 250SP for 15s for those who've missed it)

thinking about picking up tailoring all of the sudden.

also. Assuming it's a fight where you don't need Runic Mana potion, which is better: Potion of speed (500 haste) or Potion of wild magic (200SP 200crit)? Been using speed stacked w/ Bloodlust, never tried the wild magic stuff.

Depends on if you're overlapping gcd's largely, if speed pot pushes you to a point where you're waiting on gcd's between casts, switch to wild magic. If it doesn't, stick with speed pot.

[Dezzimal]

I use wild magic always, haste is not very good for my shadow priest.

[Resin]

Really? My DPS gets jacked up noticeably when BL is up; I'd imagine that potion of speed would be similar, no? (Shadow Priest)

[Dezzimal]

Its a question of quantities. Bloodlust is almost 1000 haste rating, potion of speed is just over half of a bloodlust. On live in theory both potions come out about even in terms of Equivalency Points, basically a unit used to determine how much dps you gain from each point of a stat. In practice haste is an odd stat for a shadowpriest since the rotation is built around short cooldowns such as mindblast and vampiric touch, and slightly longer ones like devouring plague.

Mage deals with haste similar but is lot easier to analyze. You want to figure out how many frostfirebolts you can get in between a living bomb and that is really easy. Living Bomb Duration/FFB Casttime. Do I have enough haste to cast an additional FFB in between living bombs if I equip this piece of haste gear? If yes, wear that piece of gear with haste on it, if no don't bother with additional haste till you have enough to make it to the next tier.

[Plow]

It's not as good for spriest simply because Mind Blast has a cooldown, and it doesn't speed up dot ticks.

Mage deals with haste similar but is lot easier to analyze. You want to figure out how many frostfirebolts you can get in between a living bomb and that is really easy. Living Bomb Duration/FFB Casttime. Do I have enough haste to cast an additional FFB in between living bombs if I equip this piece of haste gear? If yes, wear that piece of gear with haste on it, if no don't bother with additional haste till you have enough to make it to the next tier.

And this is entirely untrue for arcane or frost mages, and quite inaccurate for fire/ffb mages as well because of hot streak. Like, it would be true, but you can't account for the hot streak procs well enough to justify actually adhering to it.

[Dezzimal]

Well you can proc hot streak at maximum 2 or 3 times between living bombs, just model all the possible situations and see if you gain an ffb in any of them.

[SamanosukeShiva]

what's the best prof for hunter? (BUFF WISE)

I got
Inscription (+105AP +15Crit)
Enchanting (+64 AP)

[Korietsu]

Well you can proc hot streak at maximum 2 or 3 times between living bombs, just model all the possible situations and see if you gain an ffb in any of them.

I wouldn't even go that far to be honest. Haste is a nice side stat but it's really unimportant because you'd need at least 10% haste to add in one extra FFB cast, which nets you 1 extra FFB per cycle, which is iffy because of hot streak procs.

Frost and arcane thrive on haste, as there is no cycle, and its whack a proc for arcane, and KEEP PRESSING 2 for frost.

Haste is even more debatable for TTW/Fire =(.

[Boyiee]

what's the best prof for hunter? (BUFF WISE)

I got
Inscription (+105AP +15Crit)
Enchanting (+64 AP)

pretty much all professions over the same total buff. Although BS and JC have a little bit higher potential, especially if you pvp.

[Noobta]

I would go with BS/JC too.

[fantasticdan]

BS and JC are mainly better for SV hunter because you can use your prof bonuses for agility rather than AP, plus the free socket bonuses/meta trigger for JC.

I've had engineering + JC on my hunter forever, and was thinking of dropping engineering eventually, but they announced they were taking the GCD off of the rocket glove enchant, and reducing the CD to 45 seconds in 3.1. Not sure how much DPS that would add over a regular glove enchant in pve, but if you pvp I'm sure it will be nice for extra burst.

[Noobta]

What's the surv hunter spec for 3.1? I was reading EJ and someone mentioned 0/14/51 with the last 6 points depending on gear, but there was no talent calc link.

[Jodwahh]

The World of Warcraft Armory

That what I'm running with at the moment, fuck knows whats going to happen with 3.1 though.

Edit : Nada in hunting party cos we have like 4 spriests that turn up regularly and we literally shit mana. I've finished Patchwerk with >90% mana going full bore for the entire fight.

[Noobta]

Hunting party is only 3 points in 3.1, and each point increases agi by 1%. Not sure how much of a DPS increase that is compared to everything else though.

[fantasticdan]

Base spec would look something like this(move a point from thrill of the hunt to EW if your crit isn't high enough):

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...0&version=9767


I would cap thrill of the hunt, and put one of the remaining points in aimed shot, since it's an increase for any fight requiring movement, or when you need to plink off or grab aggro on adds (max webs or KT skeletons for example). 1 point in hunting party will cover replenishment if you ever need it in any situation, and the difference between the 1% agi bonus and a point in improved stings/hawk is minimal at best, so it's silly not to at least put 1 IMO. For the last 1-3 points, I think it would be gear dependent whether improved stings/hawk, or hunting party provide more DPS, should check the spreadsheet at EJ, but difference should be very marginal.

Of coarse you could go the other route for and spec entirely for max dps on patchwork style fights(and specifically only when mana is a non-issue) like this by dropping a bunch of stuff to be able to reach 1 point in kill command:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...0&version=9767

but that's pretty retarded IMO.

[Noobta]

I'll definitely cap out Thrill. 1/3 expose weakness seems fine with my gear, I use 2/3 now and have 37%~ unbuffed, 45%~ tooltip in raid. I use aim a lot of LnL procs or just extra damage occasionally. With 3 points left I'll probably put them in Imp hunter's mark for the other 2 hunters in raid, or 1-2 in Imp. hawk( I read that this isn't good in 3.1?).

[fantasticdan]

Well the thing about improved hawk on live is that you can drop one point in it, than glyph it so it's giving you 9% haste proc for one point. SV hunter got some better glyphs in 3.1 (ES and KS glyphs), so using the hawk glyph isn't really a good idea anymore.

[Rama]

Mage stuff:
Soooooo... it seems with the current dual spec implementation you can: Buff a target while in a spec with focus magic (say...TTW/Frost pvp or trash or w/e spec), Switch spec to FFB 0/53/18, and still get focus magic procs.

until this is fixed FFB with focus magic procs is right in line with TTW/FB for damage, varying with gear.

sound about right? where do I go in rawr to enable focus magic while in a 0/53/18 spec to compare for my gear?

edit: another Rawr question, Can I somehow put the new proc for Darkmoon card: Death into rawr?