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**Meph** · 2013-04-22 16:56

Originally Posted by Boyiee

or do you think priest will still be decent after nerfs?

what nerfs? they are bumping Atonement from 80% to 90%

edit: nevermind, missed the smite-nerf

edit#2: doesnt matter, disc-priest still perform extremely well. I went into ToT fresh as a daisy with ilvl480 and still ended up #2 on the list

**Plow** · 2013-04-22 19:51

they're nerfing disc because they're doing as much damage as a shitty dps while doing as much healing as a pretty good healer, they'll still be amazing with things toned down a tad

the one we just recruited had like no meaningful heroic exp whatsoever and was about 500 ilvl... but he had a primordius log with 60k dps + 60k hps and we were like... uh. yeah lol

**Ksandra** · 2013-04-22 22:16

fwiw, I do holy for raids (I only do lfr though) and I'm usually top healer. It's easy mode to me. But obviously that's lfr.

question:

Does anyone know of a raid frame that's almost like the default one? In particular, one that actually puts the icon for buffs/debuffs rather than a colored dot like grid.

I actually love the default raid frame and the only reason I want to switch out of it is because of a glitch. Fairly often, the targeting will get messed up with it. I'll click someone's name but it ends up clicking the person below them. My husband has this issue too. Unfortunately the only way I know to fix it is to reload, but it often happens during a fight, so reloading is really not a good idea.

I hate the dot thing, though, that most addon frames do, so I'm wondering if there are any that uses the actual icons.

**Plow** · 2013-04-22 22:51

Healbot will do that, but it's not set up real great for it these days, you'll have to go in and pick which spells you want it to show and stuff.

I'm not sure if they changed something in the lua stuff or what, it used to be able to just straight up tell whether it was something you could do anything about and display or ignore it accordingly. May have been restricted for getting a bit too close to old school decursive status.

**Boyiee** · 2013-04-22 23:40

Alright, I'll level the priest than. Hopefully It helps our group find a new guild together.

**Tekoa** · 2013-04-23 16:57

Can anyone speak to the state of Monks, Rogues and Hunters in terms of PvP (bg's) and Raiding. Just looking to see how they fair from the prospective of players more involved in the post 90 game.

**Abandon** · 2013-04-23 17:21

hunters do just fine in raiding, as do rogues. Monks, i don't see very many high end, and the one in my guild is decent for aoe, but for single target, she gets roflstomped. just doesn't know the rotation, or not geared.

**Ksandra** · 2013-04-23 17:34

I do rbgs on hunter, it's a lot of fun. Hardest thing is there are so many hunters so sometimes it takes awhile to get into a group, but it's not like they aren't wanted.

**Abandon** · 2013-04-23 19:33

if trying to get into a serious guild, you need to be pulling some legit dps.

**Ezek** · 2013-04-23 21:57

From a bleeding edge PoV (which may or may not be useful to you), Hunters aren't really wanted as they don't bring much utility and they're outclassed by Warlocks & Mages when it comes to ranged DPS (single target for both and cleave/aoe wise by the former). That's not to say they're entirely useless; MD is great for Tortos bats and any class with immunities are great for Lei Shen. They're sorta in the same situation as Ret, but we bring a good amount of utility to make up for our subpar DPS.

Rogues are great as they bring excellent single target DPS (+ possibly the strongest 5 target cleave atm) and also a targeted -20% dmg taken AoE via Smokebomb which is amazing for a lot of encounters.

WW Monks: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8197742222

**Abandon** · 2013-04-23 22:39

i wish i had a mage and a boomy. me and the hunter are required to pull dps out of our ass to carry ranged dps because they recruited a second lock due to no boomies, and our spriest having to stop because of work...she sucks. she's ~6 ilvl lower than me, and i kill her by 10-20k, if not more, on any given fight

**Ksandra** · 2013-04-23 22:43

Originally Posted by Plow

Healbot will do that, but it's not set up real great for it these days, you'll have to go in and pick which spells you want it to show and stuff.

I'm not sure if they changed something in the lua stuff or what, it used to be able to just straight up tell whether it was something you could do anything about and display or ignore it accordingly. May have been restricted for getting a bit too close to old school decursive status.

Tried healbot today. Was so close to what I wanted, but it's not organized. It won't put people into groups if I don't have headers, and if I do, the rows are all messed up.

From researching, someone posted a script for when the default frames go bad to see what addon is causing it (didn't think that was the case). Gonna see if I can't narrow it down and fix the default one, 'cause I don't think any other one will make me happy haha.

**Abandon** · 2013-04-23 23:06

i use Vuhdo, and you can do all sorts of stuff with it.

**Abandon** · 2013-04-23 23:06

*used to use, fuck resto druid. not really, but i'm busy with my lock and rogue, and leveling that prot pally

**Plow** · 2013-04-24 00:11

Originally Posted by Ezek

From a bleeding edge PoV (which may or may not be useful to you), Hunters aren't really wanted as they don't bring much utility

I dunno if it really even counts as "utility" at this point, but the versatility from them having every single buff makes it so that they can fit into any 10 man pretty damn well. It becomes even more valuable when you lose someone and aren't restricted to a certain buff to replace them.

As to the dps, they're pretty much right smack in the middle of the pack spec-wise, which puts them near the bottom class-wise. They're better than all the shit specs, and even some of the middle ones like frost dk, but they're way the fuck behind your anylock/unholy/assrogue trifecta.

**Ksandra** · 2013-04-24 00:26

Originally Posted by Abandon

i use Vuhdo, and you can do all sorts of stuff with it.

vuhdo does a dot instead of icon. I care more about bounds/ccs than dots so I want to see what's actually on people.

**SamanosukeShiva** · 2013-04-24 00:41

Originally Posted by Ezek

From a bleeding edge PoV (which may or may not be useful to you), Hunters aren't really wanted as they don't bring much utility and they're outclassed by Warlocks & Mages when it comes to ranged DPS (single target for both and cleave/aoe wise by the former). That's not to say they're entirely useless; MD is great for Tortos bats and any class with immunities are great for Lei Shen. They're sorta in the same situation as Ret, but we bring a good amount of utility to make up for our subpar DPS.

Rogues are great as they bring excellent single target DPS (+ possibly the strongest 5 target cleave atm) and also a targeted -20% dmg taken AoE via Smokebomb which is amazing for a lot of encounters.

WW Monks: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8197742222

pretty much this, also dark animus pet tanking+matter swap, lawl

**retice** · 2013-04-24 20:48

Originally Posted by Ksandra

vuhdo does a dot instead of icon. I care more about bounds/ccs than dots so I want to see what's actually on people.

Vuhdo will pretty much show you anything you want, as a dot or a marker or even the icon itself of the debuff

**Ksandra** · 2013-04-25 10:05

Originally Posted by retice

Vuhdo will pretty much show you anything you want, as a dot or a marker or even the icon itself of the debuff

hmmm I'll have to look it up then, 'cause I couldn't find a way to do it when I tried. Thanks!

New question:

Are there Oqueue people trying to be dicks or is there a change I missed? Used to be you couldn't loot world mobs xserver. People keep posting in Oqueue that they changed that (when asking people to join for Nalak). True?

**Clemz** · 2013-04-25 11:13

They reverted that change now that the things have calmed down and every server has Nalak available. You're free to cross realm all of them again.

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