Thief with Magic Def?

[DnightX]

i never seen a thief use this, but i saw a ls from a different server than mine request that your thief must have magic def if you were to apply for thier linkshell. So I was wondering why would have a build just for that and what would you use it for?

[richardd]

it's nice to have misc gear-sets if your inventory calls for it. all my jobs have a magic def bonus set, and i use it almost as much as my ohshit -physical dmg gear tbh. Salvage boss Discoid, teir 3 einj with a KB boss, etc. But you don't really -need- it. You can go along fine w/o it. Its just mainly for efficiency i guess.

[Zanz L. Barre The 3rd]

I carry -phys dmg and -m dmg gear for jobs that can stack a fair amount. IMO, very nice to have and I feel gimp as hell without it.

[Kipling]

lol, NIN recruitment page?

[zard1977]

Educating your thf (or other melee) when to GTFO is more important and easier that to ask them to carry stuff for magic damage taken - or mdef.

I totally agree that its useful for stuff like discoid or Geirrothr or instances when the thf actually contributes by taking damage though.

[Furionstormrage]

I keep a Physical and Magic Damage down setup for my jobs on me at all times, it's very helpful. Most notably for situations where you have minimal healing and/or time constraints and need to get the most out of your support, including not wasting MP cure-bombing you.

I don't know that I'd require a THF to have it in particular, but perhaps they have some unlisted reason for it, I'm curious.

[eva00r]

Aside from TH4 and max Feint, nobody should care what that THF is wearing at all. Well, except Mandau in some situations.

Discoid/Geirrothr - replace those m.def gear slots with 10 hi pots will yield a fucking better result, you're just there standing and trying not to feed TP anyway.

[Raen Ryong]

Between several different TP builds, full soloSA/soloTA sets, SADE SASB SAEV SAMS (Mandalic Stab, not Mercy Stroke <_<) and the same for TA and SATA, evasion build, ranged accuracy build (if I can mog safe some of the others) etc I would LOVE to have the room for an MDB build on top of that <_<

Aside from TH4 and max Feint, nobody should care what that THF is wearing at all. Well, except Mandau in some situations.

Sigh.

[Aurara]

Aside from TH4 and max Feint, nobody should care what that THF is wearing at all. Well, except Mandau in some situations.

I tend to disagree.

[Mytiwar]

SA set, TA set, Various weapons skill sets, evasion set, tp set (one for some good damage hands a la homam, one for th4)

that's pretty much what you need in any situation. REQUESTING more is, imo, kinda silly.

[Khajit]

I barely have enough room for my regular gear. If any ls wants me to somehow fit an entire magic damage reduction set in on thf they're out of their damned minds. how would i even be able to lot anything?

[Jeryhn]

Aside from TH4 and max Feint, nobody should care what that THF is wearing at all. Well, except Mandau in some situations.

Shit like this is akin to the kind of stuff where people think its okay to put a COR in your party just for Rolls - leaving them to waste the minute inbetween to NOT shoot their gun.

Get the fuck out.

[Aurara]

Get the fuck out.

This. people recognize NIN as DD, so why not recognize thf? Since is pretty obvious that thf>nin at most DD things(i.e birds, and possibly mamools if the thf doesnt suck) so saying that nin is DD and thf is not is plain stupid. I dont know what shitty thfs you xp with but i sure as shit want to meet them.

[fantasticdan]

Who cares, TH works if the THF dies anyway.

This. people recognize NIN as DD, so why not recognize thf?

Who brings a nin just to DD at endgame events? DD/tank sure, but just DD?

[Aurara]

meant in xp :X

[fantasticdan]

meant in xp :X

And just how are exp parties relevant to a thread about thf MDB gear?

[isladar]

Keep it civil.

[Ayn]

I wish I had the room in my inventory to maximize my THF (and other jobs). Since I'm finally done leveling jobs to 75(..hopefully) I should be able to leave some room open, once I'm done with one or two more subs.

In my case, I'd only have the MDB stuff if it was a carryover from other jobs. To the poster who mentioned discoid, I have a ton of +HP gear for my DRK, so (when I remember), I bring it to Salvage on THF for Zhayolm. Or for runs that I have to kite stuff on.

[Brill Weave]

Seems kind of pointless to have THF toting around an MDB set. Like it was said before, drag out some Hi-Potions and you'll get the same result. I would much rather have the THF be properly geared for damage/evasion/etc.

[Raen Ryong]

THF can DD fine in some endgame events too; just use Shark Bite / Mandalic Stab rather than your large multihits, EAT MEAT, and gear accordingly. Possibly /war depending on the mob. It's far from incapable at DD.

Sure, Thief sucks on some fights, but very few jobs are great at all fights.