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  1. #41
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    It's bad enough you need 3 Tier III's for a single Tier IV and for the Tier IV to not drop what is needed for the Tier V is pretty retarded imo also. I dunno what they were thinking there.

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    They could have also found a better way to obtain pop items. Maybe they could have opened the battle arena and used that. To earn zeni, players could progress through a series of fights and have random pathos placed on them every battle. The longer you can go, the more points you get! I guess I'm dreaming now though, but seriously, taking pictures is really mundane and not very fun at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judai View Post
    needing to spam stupid pictures of retarded mobs for hours on end.
    This made me laugh for some reason, but yeah, that's a good description of znms.

    About the interview, its always amazing to see how disconnected from reality they are.

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    I want to punch these two men in the face.

    "We made top tier pop items low because then everyone would be getting items and we can't have that ohohohohohoho!" *back of hand to chin*

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    According to JP wiki, 花鳥風月 is a 四字熟語 - a type of proverb/idiom consisting of 4 kanji (chinese characters). It's also known as 成語 in Chinese.

    They made it on Islands so you can't wipe and try again.. Really? We did it plenty of times when first doing T4s and figuring them out.
    I think what they are trying to say is that if your alliance wipe, other LS can't steal your NM. It's actually a brilliant idea. Mt Zhayolm camp is always so packed when the actual Cerberus is up and lag can become a serious problem. At least with ZNM, you dont' have to worry about ppl stealing your NM.

    They could have also found a better way to obtain pop items. Maybe they could have opened the battle arena and used that. To earn zeni, players could progress through a series of fights and have random pathos placed on them every battle. The longer you can go, the more points you get! I guess I'm dreaming now though, but seriously, taking pictures is really mundane and not very fun at all.
    Agree. They should at least add stackable soulplates.

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    My only gripe with Sanraku is the lame second option requesting monsters that are super hard to find / take pictures of. Yeah.... during my Einherjar i really have time/space to be snapping pictures of the bosses SE - lol.

    Perhaps that should have been an option to hand in monster drops for zeni, since many people feel that the picture taking is boring. Something like:

    "Today Sanraku wants Wamoura-related items or Today Sanraku would love to observe Scorpion-related items"

    For the adventurers who'd rather kill monsters.

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    Repetition is the biggest problem. Even with lower drop rates from tier IV monsters, you are going to waste more time taking pictures than anything else. Like most things, they need to make it easier after you did it once. Lower cost, more points, it doesn't really matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlah View Post
    According to JP wiki, 花鳥風月 is a 四字熟語 - a type of proverb/idiom consisting of 4 kanji (chinese characters). It's also known as 成語 in Chinese.


    I think what they are trying to say is that if your alliance wipe, other LS can't steal your NM. It's actually a brilliant idea.
    Correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlah View Post
    Agree. They should at least add stackable soulplates.

    I agree with this, and add this as well:
    - Make each Recommended picture more than 99, cap at 200 (!)

    - Make each Recommended Fauna (hi to you Tier2 einherjar boss pic) more than 300

    - Tier3 to Tier4 require one Seal, not Three would be Fantastic.


    That's all i have for input, thank you.

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    Don't know why people complaining about T4 trophies, same people complained about random pop on AV I guess.

    Well they certainly fixed that, shit pops 100% of the time now and people still can't kill him.

    Want to make PW 100% so people can wipe to that to, doesn't seem logical to me,

    I'd rather keep the pop rate busted but fix the mob personally

    [edit] I think if you hand in a T4 pop to npc, you should get a cheaper rate on all the other mobs of that tier below it, like a 50% reduction as long as you have the seal.

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    Pandemonium Warden was never in the same league of AV. It will be defeated, it's just extremely rare to encounter and you aren't allowed any extra time for mistakes, so people don't know everything yet. Anyways, AV popped about 1/3 of the time prepatch. T4 trophies are around 1/9, in my experience. I took a total of 270 ZNM just to get one pop set.

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    Soulplates can't be stackable. I rather than try to explain, I'll let you just think real hard about how the inventory, stacking, and inscribed items work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    Soulplates can't be stackable. I rather than try to explain, I'll let you just think real hard about how the inventory, stacking, and inscribed items work.
    I'd take stackable plates with identical pet enhancements that I don't care about since I don't pankration, and with identical zeni count on each one.

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    Yeah, but that's a pipe dream.

    Even without the pankration ability inscriptions, you still have the inscriptions of the monster's name which is the only reason it is different from any other souplate. In order to have stackable souplates you would need to have every soulplate for every monster be the exact same item. This completely defeats the purpose of souplates.

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    or make the camera snap faster ......

    having to alternate 2 cameras and still have cool downs.

    30min to snap 20 pics ! ( including time to re sleep mobs and rebuff )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction View Post
    I want to punch these two men in the face.

    "We made top tier pop items low because then everyone would be getting items and we can't have that ohohohohohoho!" *back of hand to chin*

    its things like this that make people quit their game. I never understood why any company would put things like PW into a game they obviously don't want beaten and will actually ninja change fights in updates to keep them from being beaten.



    FFXI = great game but ran by a bunch of idiot johnny come-lately's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    Yeah, but that's a pipe dream.

    Even without the pankration ability inscriptions, you still have the inscriptions of the monster's name which is the only reason it is different from any other souplate. In order to have stackable souplates you would need to have every soulplate for every monster be the exact same item. This completely defeats the purpose of souplates.
    I posted in the interview section a while ago. SE can just add "soulplate roll" which goes into ammo slot and allows player to take picture of the same mob multiple times (10 charges perhaps?). When traded to Sanraku it gives the total zeni amount of all pictures put together. They can always make soulplate roll ra/ex.

    There are only 2 things I really want from SE at this point - stackable soulplates and cheaper Remnant permit >.>;;;

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    In addition to most of the things mentioned here, I'd also love it if they'd just let you trade ten Soul Plates to Sanraku simultaneously instead of having to stand there for two minutes trading each one manually and having to spam through the same four lines of text ten times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    Yeah, but that's a pipe dream.

    Even without the pankration ability inscriptions, you still have the inscriptions of the monster's name which is the only reason it is different from any other souplate. In order to have stackable souplates you would need to have every soulplate for every monster be the exact same item. This completely defeats the purpose of souplates.
    I posted in the interview section a while ago. SE can just add "soulplate roll" which goes into ammo slot and allows player to take picture of the same mob multiple times (10 charges perhaps?). When traded to Sanraku it gives the total zeni amount of all pictures put together. They can always make soulplate roll ra/ex.

    There are only 2 things I really want from SE at this point - stackable soulplates and cheaper Remnant permit >.>;;;

    Edit: Also hope SE will turn BST into a tank job.
    O.o; double post when edit the first one

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    Thanks for the translation Elmer, was a nice interview but lol at them saying PW is killable "maybe"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    Pandemonium Warden was never in the same league of AV. It will be defeated, it's just extremely rare to encounter and you aren't allowed any extra time for mistakes, so people don't know everything yet.
    I wouldn't count on it being killing PW without a glitch, It's even harder to find a glitch now because he's not up for more then 2 hours. If anything I think the time limit has made him even harder to kill. Those who have tried him now seem to get him to the same spot in the final form then lose.

    So I say this until PW has been beating I think he's in the same league as AV, cause I got a feeling if people found a way to beat him. Square would just patch it anyways.

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