CIP Questions.

[The_OG_Nelta]

Question 1: What do you think the relationship between sin and crime is, in accordance to the civil law and/or the law of nature (conscience)? Explain.

Question 2: What is your definition of what we call “bad” and why do we want to desist from acting in “bad" ways? Explain.

Question 3: : What aspect of human nature is most likely to create sin? Explain.

here's some more, these are really interesting, and i want to see what BG has to say.

Question: Is the will limited only to the human species? To animals? To plants? To rocks and stones? Where do we draw the line which separates the entities with a will and the entities without a will?

[Eohuo]

Why do I sense that this is homework?

[The_OG_Nelta]

It is, just that I actually do need other people's opinions so I can compare them with mine. So i'll most likely put BG as a cited source lulz.

[Neosutra]

What is your definition of sin?

Because my definition is an act against the wishes of a specific deity, and since there is no god, there is no such thing as sin.

If you are talking about morality, it is all relative.

Or are you talking about universal morality? Cultural? Legal?

[The_OG_Nelta]

Cultural sin.

[Neosutra]

Then you are talking about cultural morality, sin is the wrong term, used by theist to attempt to classify cultural moral degradations into spiritual ones.

As for your questions, based on those answers:

1. Crime is related to cultural morality in that crime is merely the resultant breach in cultural morality, when a person choses to cross the line of moral fortitude and in doing so breaks the law.

2. "Bad" in cultural morality is simply the term that describes all that which is considered moraly incorrect by the current culture. (Note that individual morality may differ from the cultural morality they are a part of).

3. What aspect of human nature is most likely to cause breeches in cultural morality: Our animal insticts each push us into these realms of material aquisition (the desire to take in as much as possible in order to survive), the need to procreate as much as possible, etc. We are a civilized species that hasnt evolved past the traits we no longer need.

But then again these traits also make us stronger. The desire to achieve more, the desire to procreate, the desire to push the limits.

To err is human.

[Tricen]

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[The_OG_Nelta]

Then you are talking about cultural morality, sin is the wrong term, used by theist to attempt to classify cultural moral degradations into spiritual ones.

As for your questions, based on those answers:

1. Crime is related to cultural morality in that crime is merely the resultant breach in cultural morality, when a person choses to cross the line of moral fortitude and in doing so breaks the law.

2. "Bad" in cultural morality is simply the term that describes all that which is considered moraly incorrect by the current culture. (Note that individual morality may differ from the cultural morality they are a part of).

3. What aspect of human nature is most likely to cause breeches in cultural morality: Our animal insticts each push us into these realms of material aquisition (the desire to take in as much as possible in order to survive), the need to procreate as much as possible, etc. We are a civilized species that hasnt evolved past the traits we no longer need.

But then again these traits also make us stronger. The desire to achieve more, the desire to procreate, the desire to push the limits.

To err is human.

Fuck posting on BG, next time i'll just log on game.

[Kaylia]

Question 1: What do you think the relationship between sin and crime is, in accordance to the civil law and/or the law of nature (conscience)? Explain.

Question 2: What is your definition of what we call “bad” and why do we want to desist from acting in “bad" ways? Explain.

Question 3: : What aspect of human nature is most likely to create sin? Explain.

here's some more, these are really interesting, and i want to see what BG has to say.

Question: Is the will limited only to the human species? To animals? To plants? To rocks and stones? Where do we draw the line which separates the entities with a will and the entities without a will?

Question 2:

Q = set of every elements (consequence) you can analyze
Q[i] = Measurement that determine how harmful something is (negative value mean it's good for you)

If ΣQ[i] > 0
Return bad
Else
Return good

If you want to add a "neutral" range to your definition

If ΣQi ±ΔQi > 0±epsilon
Return bad
IfElse ΣQi ±ΔQi < epsilon
Return neutral
else
Return good



Which elements you're going to include in your set and which value you attribute to them is up to you. Because of this, what is good or bad depend of your initial input, and it will change from person to person (or situation to situation).

Something that cause harm is definitively not something I want to deal with, which is why I try to avoid it. Why? Because that's how my body (and mind) react when I face this kind of scenario (and this has probably something to do with survival instinct).


Question #4:
Determinism debate aside, my definition of will is the ability to consciously write down every choices you're facing, observing the evolution of the environment and "guess" the better choice.

If animal are able to take such decision (pretty sure some are), I'm fine talking about will.

On a philosophical level, I would talk about free will if you can guess the future before the universe, but I doubt it's the case.

[Neosutra]

You forgot the equation where you prove god exists Kaylia, surely that has a role in morality.

Q.Q

[Kaylia]

You forgot the equation where you prove god exists Kaylia, surely that has a role in morality.

Q.Q

We are talking about definition here, not morality. That's why I skipped #1 and #3.

[Neosutra]

And the definition deals with morality..

[Kaylia]

And the definition deals with morality..

Which is why I defined the thought process to determine if something is bad or not, leaving morality as an outside element in the the metric that determine if something is harmful or not.

[Talus]

Here I thought this was Continuation-in-Part, where you elect to file a continuation patent application on part of the claims of the parent application. Doh.