Cheesecake Factory workers detail harassment claims

[Talus]

I've never worked in a restaurant. I did date a girl that was a server at Cheesecake Factory in Tysons here in Va on-again/off-again for a year. It seemed like her tips were pretty good and she was constantly being hit on by coworkers and customers. I think she ended up meeting her babydaddy by waiting on him in the restaurant.

I didn't think the dudes had it that bad, but maybe the whole "playing tummysticks and rubba-rubba" is localized to the AZ location? The WTF of the story to me was definitely the "20 times." Most people wouldn't go back to that well for another helping, you know?

I'm not saying he was asking for it, but if people think they can walk all over you and rub their genitals on your genitals and you let them without moaning in ecstasy... yeah you had it coming (at least the 20th time).

I wonder if it was 10+ cooks in the freezer *every time* doing this shit.

And yeah, the stuff in Waiting... was funny (the brain, etc).

[Edgie]

These dam news articles need to be more explicit, its really hard to fap to such discreet descriptions.

[Seraph]

As I said, if this had been a woman you'd see different reactions.

Damn straight. Twenty women having sex in the kitchen? Six star restaurant.

[Darus Grey]

He is a guy, he should act like one..

And guys =/= girl, so stop waving this argument like it was a scientific fact.

If you believe guys and girls be treated exactly the same when it come to sexuality, try to explain the porn industry, and the amount of women trying to rape men.

I don't really feel pity for the guy (beyond the first time) unless he somehow thought it was impossible for him to get another job for some reasons. I doubt it's case. He has every right to sue their asses, but if he is an idiot for going back for more.

Last I checked men aren't immune to fear. The rest of what you said being unrelated to anything.

This "Man the fuck up" Machoism BS is exactly why sex crimes against men are the most under-reported crime.

[Mizango]

No, not really. The reasons for the continued abuse are the same, fear. I just wanted to point out the clear discrimination in this thread, if this was a woman you'd see different reactions.

Incorrect, 20 times is 20 times. We are arguing semantics, you remove the word "fag" and insert "Slutty cunt" and you have the same implications applied.

Damn straight. Twenty women having sex in the kitchen? Six star restaurant.

Amen. I'm happily waiting in line for my food and my happy ending.

[Darus Grey]

Incorrect, 20 times is 20 times. We are arguing semantics, you remove the word "fag" and insert "Slutty cunt" and you have the same implications applied.

All slutty cunts are fags, but not all fags are slutty cunts. This is a basic semantic test that proves they do not have the same implication because they don't share semantical equivalency.

If you're gonna play the "semantics" card with a linguist you better have a damn idea what "semantics" are and how to actually apply basic semantics tests.

People throw "semantics" out as some kind of base-line insult without having a damn clue what they're talking about.

[Kaylia]

Last I checked men aren't immune to fear. The rest of what you said being unrelated to anything.

Ok, the fact that men and women are differents is not related to anything? Sometime, there is hope to get a point across, but I have none here.


When people keep it quiet out of fear, it's because they feel obligated to do so. They are scared of everyone's reaction (including the aggressor when he actually mean something for them).

Under what situation co-worker mean something to you? Were they close friends or what? Why is that job so important? If you can't answers those two things with a good explanations, the "fear" you're talking about has no ground.


In fact, if he went back 20 times, there is a good chance he didn't "fear" it that much. Maybe it was an annoyance at best, but fear most likely not the explanation here.

[Mizango]

You seem sensitive to this, evoking bad memories?

Self proclaimed god linguist, this is the apex of your stupidity. lol

[Darus Grey]

Ok, the fact that men and women are differents is not related to anything? Sometime, there is hope to get a point across, but I have none here.


When people keep it quiet out of fear, it's because they feel obligated to do so. They are scared of everyone's reaction (including the aggressor when he actually mean something for them).

Under what situation co-worker mean something to you? Were they close friends or what? Why is that job so important? If you can't answers those two things with a good explanations, the "fear" you're talking about has no ground.


In fact, if he went back 20 times, there is a good chance he didn't "fear" it that much. Maybe it was an annoyance at best, but fear most likely not the explanation here.

The "fear" is being forever labeled a pussy who let dudes dry-rape him by random people like you reporting this or even letting it get to him.

A man's "Macho" persona is one of the most central parts of his ego and threatening it is one of the most damaging things you can do to a man physcologically.

The fact that many people react with such an attitude only reinforces that.

You seem sensitive to this, evoking bad memories?

Self proclaimed god linguist, this is the apex of your stupidity. lol

I don't need to be a "god linguist" to call you out on your bullshit comment. You were wrong.

[Kaylia]

This "Man the fuck up" Machoism BS is exactly why sex crimes against men are the most under-reported crime.

If someone punched you in the face, would you report him? I mean, he had no right to do so. If you were raped by an ugly fat chick, would you report her?

It's the same here. Ball touching is gross, but most guy would rather deal with it personally, than report it. Of course it's a crime, the it's nowhere near as bad as rapping a kid, or a girl. The sequels aren't the same.

[Xno Kappa]

It was 20 freaking times! At what point does personal responsibility play into the factor? If a woman walked a dark alley and got raped at the same spot 20 times, whose fault is it really? Are you gonna say she was too scared to take another route? Of course not, the woman would have wised up long time ago. Point being the two situations aren't even remotely close.

Hell, at this point your better off dropping your "fear" argument in favor for Stockholm syndrome.

[Darus Grey]

If someone punched you in the face, would you report him? I mean, he had no right to do so. If you were raped by an ugly fat chick, would you report her?

It's the same here. Ball touching is gross, but most guy would rather deal with it personally, than report it. Of course it's a crime, the it's nowhere near as bad as rapping a kid, or a girl. The sequels aren't the same.

For the record I was never making the case they were equivalent(my original comment is obviously meant to be snide), only that the reasons the abuse continues are the same.

"Man up" is nice on the internet, but reality is never that simple.

[Kaylia]

The "fear" is being forever labeled a pussy who let dudes dry-rape him by random people like you reporting this or even letting it get to him.

A man's "Macho" persona is one of the most central parts of his ego and threatening it is one of the most damaging things you can do to a man physcologically.

The fact that many people react with such an attitude only reinforces that.



I don't need to be a "god linguist" to call you out on your bullshit comment. You were wrong.

Way to use circular logic.

Me: Why did he go back 19 times
You: Fear
Me: It can't be fear if he went back 19 times
You: Not that fear, the fear of reporting the crime.

So my next question is:

Why did he go back 19 times? To which you should answer "fear" to complete the loop.

[Mizango]

No, him being forcefully sodomized into sucking the cooks scrotum is wrong. Darus Grey, changing the world one thread at a time? You almost a bigger pussy than this twat is.

Tell me more linguist stories, I still cant stop laughing at your last one.

[Kaylia]

Hell, at this point your better off dropping your "fear" argument in favor for Stockholm syndrome.

Does that mean he enjoyed it?

For the record I was never making the case they were equivalent(my original comment is obviously meant to be snide), only that the reasons the abuse continues are the same.

"Man up" is nice on the internet, but reality is never that simple.

How do you give equals right to different people?


And you don't have to wake up and go to work as far as I know.

[Darus Grey]

Way to use circular logic.

Me: Why did he go back 19 times
You: Fear
Me: It can't be fear if he went back 19 times
You: Not that fear, the fear of reporting the crime.

So my next question is:

Why did he go back 19 times? To which you should answer "fear" to complete the loop.

That's not circular because the chain breaks at "Me: It can't be fear if he went back 19 times" since you give no reason to back this up. In order to prove circular reasoning you'd have to provide an alternative explaination at that step like "He was a closet gay"...then if I answered "fear" being the reason he was gay and liked having this done to him...then it's circular.

And you don't have to wake up and go to work as far as I know.

Class is still in session for another two weeks here. Though I teach afternoons anyways.

How do you give equals right to different people?

And where do rights play into this at all? My point was about public perception...rights and the law never played into any of this. It's obviously illegal regardless of his gender.

[Mizango]

Careful Kaylia, he knoz werdz n shit.

[Darus Grey]

Careful Kaylia, he knoz werdz n shit.

Which is a step above you apparently. Seriously is it so hard to just admit you don't know what semantics really are? I won't fault you for it, cause most people don't.

[Mizango]

You got me there cowboy.

[Rhinox]

Which is a step above you apparently. Seriously is it so hard to just admit you don't know what semantics really are? I won't fault you for it, cause most people don't.

now you're just arguing semantics!