Fan Fest 2008 Live Coverage

[Hapernack]

Let's just hope it's not on a 20-minute merited to 10-minute timer... but I'm very excited for this JA if it's reasonable (and now I know to thank you for S-E channeling the idea from!). What does "No Foot Rise" even mean or refer to anyways? I'm no dancing expert

Keep feet planted when dancing? (I dunno)

[Khajit]

lol @ urat's posts

is he a troll?

nope. he's just a regular idiot

[Hapernack]

If you have every set of gear for your job that's useful, yeah..it is bullshit, if not..why does it matter when you don't even have the gear currently out that's useful?

Maybe its just early but that makes absolutely no sense to me at all. Clarify?

[The Stig]

Khajit: You seemed to be familiar with him so I clicked on your link going to QCDN. I didn't register so I couldn't view it but I clicked your regular forums and found that I could view the job forums. I beelined for the DNC forum and ....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I know it's ridiculously impossible, but I am contemplating a "mythic weapon static" that does nyzul/assualt, and find an einher ls willing to let us join, with us having the entire intent of getting as much points as possible.

I've added up and the total cost to buy all the alexandrite is... 1. Billion. Gil.

So for a group thats... 6 billion. Hopefully by the time all 6 of us have our weapons, which should take wrapping nyzul isle 5-6 times.. (ugh) we'll have most tokens. Follow up with doing every damn assualt, spending a year doing einherjar, so on...

It's a big thing, but cause dance is my only job, I'll be free to devote 95% of my time to the terpischore. Of course this after my dancer is fully gea,r which may not be that hard depending on whether or not our relic sucks. If it kicks ass... Well... Dynamis here I come =/

And more lolz, someone responded saying the alexes only cost 120m roughly and he comes out with:

...

I had done it in my head, and it came out a lot higher than that.

Well in that case terpischore isn't that bad. only like 3x the cost of a relic, not 10x...

And because mythics are double attack, with from what we've seen from the testing, a high proc rate, screw joytoy >3

LOL LOL LOL LOL

brb shitting myself

EDIT: Source: http://www.qcdn.org/ffxi/showthread.php?t=67110 for those wanting entertainment.

[Tekki]

cliff notes on fan fest please ;x

This is one of the "smaller" threads of a major event compared to equal to lesser events. Quit being lazy.

[Mojo]

I'm so tired of seeing people constantly bitch about a job that they like to generalize themselves with being underpowered. Summoner is definitely not an underpowered job, it's just unique. It has a role in the endgame and can fill that roll well. It's even good for merit or leveling if the party is configured properly. It's definitely not a job that can fill every roll, but honestly what the fuck would be the point of this game if every job had that flexibility. It's silly for people to expect this, FFXI would be retardedly boring this way, so just shut the fuck up and be happy with how good it is at what it does and maybe ask for a little bit more.

If there is a problem, it's that the community is generally unwilling to utilize the job because it typically requires slightly more effort to use efficiently. It's uncommon for people to deviate from the routines they've established, even if it is for the sake of enjoying the game more. This has happened to almost every job at one point or another though, there's nothing that the developers can really do about this without unbalancing the game. There was actually a time when Summoner was a popular job for HNM at least on the servers I played. It's ebb and flow, it will change eventually.

As far as a fanfest recap goes. Salvage drop rates will be increased in SSR and BR. They may take punitive action against people who used the dupe trick. Info about SCH/DNC merits. Maybe some other interesting stuff, although most of the info they had was very underwhelming.

[Dohorehn]

everyone is afraid to ask the big "pvp" question. Cross-servers, 1on1 duels, instant battles, a new set of armor for each job as reward from pvp, nuff said. It's gonna be huge. But noone is asking the god damn question.

quite frankly because no one cares! they're all too obsessed with afk-ing and whitegate, talking about modifiers, and doing laps around their moogle.

Yes, take that as a direct Ballista challenge, lol.

[Tyramut]

Looks like I slept through all the live blog stuff :/ I have question for the people who played around with the new mythics.

How do they compare to what was said on the JP bbs? Like, the aftermath stats for Conquerer seemed pretty unreal and broken, but from what i've seen sifting through these threads is that the overall opinion on them was underwhelming compared to what that dude said who went to the JP fest. Was he throwing us a red herring or what?

[Melios]

everyone is afraid to ask the big "pvp" question. Cross-servers, 1on1 duels, instant battles, a new set of armor for each job as reward from pvp, nuff said. It's gonna be huge. But noone is asking the god damn question.

That's because they have their priorities straight.

[test123]

another thing ignored is everything wrong with FFXI that is supplemented by 3rd party plugins. Seems like the people asking questions are using these tools and ignore the rest of us that is not using them.

If all 3rd party tools were insta-ban, questions would be much more oriented towards fixing system related stuff implemented by said tools.

6 macro lines for instance, plz give us 20 atleast!

[Kenji]

Whats the point? The "fuck yeah!" feeling of solving SEs rubiks cube HNM is gone because the drops are no longer special (courtesy of krakenrushing) and most players (endgamers and casuals) are convinced that the HNM cannot be defeated by any normal means.

The effort just does not match the rewards anymore. Perhaps at one time a group might have been motivated by the E-Fame across the FFXI world at being the AV slayers but nowadays the HNM is just not worth it for anyone. NA, EU and JP alike.

Perhaps if SE throws down the gauntlet in some kind of event with cash prizes or a trip to SE headquarters with exclusive prizes that AV might die but in its current state the NM is nothing but a massive failure at challenging the playerbase.

Now Vrtra in her prime? That was an actual challenge way back when.

Then... don't care about it. Don't care about AV questions. That's what I do, and it works out fine. So, there's this HNM in the game, that end-game LS's can't kill, and really don't want to try. If it drops crap, who cares? I guess only those that love rubik's cubes will try.

Although, as someone once said, AV is an instant Relic weapon. Kill AV, sell drops, buy a relic weapon. Seems a decent prize.

Revisionist history bullshit. The major complaint of the endgame community was that AV could wipe an entire alliance at will, and even if you got lucky enough to make progress he'd just undo it either via Benediction or an insta-wipe. Very few people claimed to be willing to invest absurd amounts of time choking sea with their dead to study AV, and that number dropped to zero after they once again fucked up enough to allow the rewards to leak into the community.

Reread my post. I said "One of" the major complaints. There were more than a few who expressed frustration that they'd be ready with a strat they wanted to test, run through JoL 5 times, and not see an AV. It did make it hard to test and retest variations on strats.

But I think we're agreed now. We can ignore AV. It's not worth it, and the end-game community is just interested in loot, so we go about our virtual lives, secure in the knowledge that we aren't missing anything. So no more AV questions need to be asked.

[Kenji]

I'm so tired of seeing people constantly bitch about a job that they like to generalize themselves with being underpowered. Summoner is definitely not an underpowered job, it's just unique. It has a role in the endgame and can fill that roll well. It's even good for merit or leveling if the party is configured properly. It's definitely not a job that can fill every roll, but honestly what the fuck would be the point of this game if every job had that flexibility. It's silly for people to expect this, FFXI would be retardedly boring this way, so just shut the fuck up and be happy with how good it is at what it does and maybe ask for a little bit more.

Spoken like someone who hasn't leveled SMN 1-69. Yes, it's got a few minor limited uses at end-game, but the climb up there is torture. In some ways, it's worse than BST. At least BST can solo for decent xp. SMN can't really solo well until the few ranges where you can fight bombs. In parties, they are mostly a healer.

End-game, it used to be fairly good, since it was one of the few acceptable uses of damage. That has grown out of disfavor, since melee have grown so powerful and versatile.

Thus, an update is sorely needed.

And I think what most people are missing, is that SE said these avatars would be different. Less BPs, but more specialized. Which means leveling up might be much easier, if a SMN can actually do competitive damage with a pet, or fulfil a tank role, or a even just main heal better. Avatars that cost less than carby, yet focused to a melee, tank, or healer role. These are just my gueses, and time will tell if these new avatars do help SMN find more useful roles, both leveling up and end-game.

That's why SMNs are interested in details of these avatars. They essentially want to know if they'll ever become real summoners leveling up.

Imagine if you the only way you could level DRK, was to sub WHM and heal, and maybe you'll start to understand.

[BRP]

We don't need another thread about SMN. Only one thing needs to be said concerning this fanfest: More avatars wouldn't fix SMN. At best they would just add another niche to their skill set.

[Pergo]

am i completely missing all the premiere site interviews (besides allah)? i thought they were supposed to be up last night + the 1up interview? i'm searching these sites and can't find them.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Final Fantasy XI Preview for the PS2,PC,Xbox 360 from 1UP.com

1up interview yo

[Pergo]

yeah just found that one, and i've gotta say... for all the crap that was foreseen about milkman's interview, he really hits them hard with questions about the new expansions (and even wotg) being worth their value

edit: nvm just read the part about bee mage, i guess 1 joke question is ok >.>

[Kenji]

We don't need another thread about SMN. Only one thing needs to be said concerning this fanfest: More avatars wouldn't fix SMN. At best they would just add another niche to their skill set.

I agree that we don't need another SMN thread. But these new avatars *could* fix SMN. It's understandable that those who don't play SMN, would have a hard time seeing how.

[Hyan]

That wasn't too bad interview from milkman really, better than some others I saw >_>

[BRP]

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/5...reen015ft2.jpg

HURRRRR

BEE MAGE

[Lordender]

I wish a cavernous maw would pop up on my front lawn and take me back to last year, nov 21st so I could punch myself in the face to stop myself going to gamestop and wasting 30$ on wotg.