Mythic Weapons Discussion

[Mohit]

Since its a blu mob, It could have had a defense buff. It could have done diamond hide or metallic body. If his HPs wasn't full, then he would have done crap dmg on the breath spell. May not have broke stoneskin. His melee attacks would have done zero still and he couldn't get TP. Maybe? It could be broken too like everyone says. It could also just been back luck. Also he was on PS2. The exact % may have been a little off. This may have happened at 2% or 3% or something.

[Jedimasta]

That log almost confirms you need Aftermath up to defeat him.

[Alistaire]

Since its a blu mob, It could have had a defense buff. It could have done diamond hide or metallic body. If his HPs wasn't full, then he would have done crap dmg on the breath spell. May not have broke stoneskin. His melee attacks would have done zero still and he couldn't get TP. Maybe? It could be broken too like everyone says. It could also just been back luck. Also he was on PS2. The exact % may have been a little off. This may have happened at 2% or 3% or something.

It's generally not a good idea to post about things that prove you know nothing about the things you're posting about.

BLU has defense buffs and stoneskin, both show up in the log when used and neither would result in a player being able to take a mob from 100% to 1% and then doing 0's for long enough to notice something's wrong.

[lovehatehero]

Well after reading the log it seems that...

You feel it, do you not ≺Player Name≻? The quickening of the blood, the life bubbling up within you...
That is the Aftermath! Surrender to it, and know the true power of mine arm!≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

maybe he says that after you do the ws and get say a 100tp aftermath...

then you have...

So, you think you understand now, do you? Foolish upstart!
You still have no grasp of what lies in your hands.≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

possible in battle quote after a 200% aftermath...

then maybe finally it goes Hmph, I see your spirit is true. You have tasted the Aftermath and shall not soon forget it.
Bathe yourself in its might, and let the myth of ≺Player Name≻ begin.≺Possible Special Code: 00≻
≺Possible Special Code: 00≻≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

after you do a 300 tp aftermath?

[Neosutra]

Yep, looks like a statement for 1,2, and 3rd level aftermath.

Kinda sux that any other job would have done this naturally and the one job that would get fucked figuring it out got there first Q.Q

Oh well, hopefully he will work with the ZNM LSs on his server to get some fresh ones for cheap and fast.

[Ohaigaiz]

I honestly thought Almalexia would've been the first.

[Neosutra]

Does she even have the ZNM items?

[Jedimasta]

I just love the fact that we've been cheering for Alma and the JP BRD to complete their mythics first and of course this guy comes out of the blue and completes the first empty mythic.

[Mohit]

Alistaire, I know that. He just posted it right before mine.

All I was trying to say is that there is a little wiggle room. Blu does have stoneskin and defense boosts. Did he filter them? Did he miss them on PS2? Who knows? He didnt take screenshots. So he relies on his memory of what he thinks he saw and what was stated he was worried about staying alive mostly.

However, with the .dat logs that tummie pulled up, it probably is an aftermath issue.

[Karshe]

Considering how much work it takes to get to the BC, it's pretty silly to think he failed to notice a boss using stoneskin and then claim that something is glitched and/or a trick is needed. He's a friggin' BLU, he would notice Metallic Body or Diamondhide not to mention neither are hard to break though.

[TummieGaruda]

Well after reading the log it seems that...

You feel it, do you not ≺Player Name≻? The quickening of the blood, the life bubbling up within you...
That is the Aftermath! Surrender to it, and know the true power of mine arm!≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

maybe he says that after you do the ws and get say a 100tp aftermath...

then you have...

So, you think you understand now, do you? Foolish upstart!
You still have no grasp of what lies in your hands.≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

possible in battle quote after a 200% aftermath...

then maybe finally it goes Hmph, I see your spirit is true. You have tasted the Aftermath and shall not soon forget it.
Bathe yourself in its might, and let the myth of ≺Player Name≻ begin.≺Possible Special Code: 00≻
≺Possible Special Code: 00≻≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

after you do a 300 tp aftermath?

Yeah that's what I got out of it too. The battle doesn't end until you get that last message - Lv3 Aftermath

[Darkevolution]

Knowing SE you might have to have something lame like the Glory Crown equipped to kill him or one of the other useless items they put into the game...(ebon panel, dark ixon horn, whatev)

[Neosutra]

Would actually say stacking 3 100tp WSs rather than doing a 300TP one. Seems you need to hit all 3 levels.

[Ohaigaiz]

Reading the .dat, I bet you don't even need to get him to 1%. You just need to do a 100-199%TP, 200-299% TP, and 300% TP WS. After that whatever cs will start and you'll 'unlock the true power of the mythic'.

[ringthree]

Would actually say stacking 3 100tp WSs rather than doing a 300TP one. Seems you need to hit all 3 levels.

My limited testing suggests that they don't stack.

[Loziel]

So just to confirm, every time you use WS it overwrites the last with another level so

Drakesbane > Drakesbane > Drakesbane would put at level 3?

This looks reasonable

Or is it

100TP DB > 200TP DB > 300TP DB?

Thats a lot of TP to get in one fight against a mob trying to kill you solo

Btw, any confirmation on how hard he hits and are there any AOE moves to watch our for?

[Flight_93]

So just to confirm, every time you use WS it overwrites the last with another level so

Drakesbane > Drakesbane > Drakesbane would put at level 3?

Tested this at FanFest (despite the idiot SE rep telling me to meet my swarm party.)

<200 tp = puts you at Lv1 AM, regardless what level Aftermath buff you had at the time of WS.

The rest follows suit.

So you'd need to gain/sleep/wing a total of 600tp during the fight if the dat speculation holds.

[ringthree]

So just to confirm, every time you use WS it overwrites the last with another level so

Drakesbane > Drakesbane > Drakesbane would put at level 3?

This looks reasonable

Or is it

100TP DB > 200TP DB > 300TP DB?

Thats a lot of TP to get in one fight against a mob trying to kill you solo

Btw, any confirmation on how hard he hits and are there any AOE moves to watch our for?

You probably posted this while I was posting, but I will further explain why there might be confusion.

During the Swarm BC, killing certain mobs would give you a TP bonus without notice, so you might get to 100TP then instantly get another 100TP and people might have mistaken this for the Aftermath effects stacking.

To determine if this was the case, before entering the BC we were in Rolanberry in the past, so I just went out and built some TP on the mobs there and did back to back 100TP Mythic WS's and they never stacked. Also from my testing I was able to determine that they do overwrite though, so you can go from Aftermath Lvl. 1 to Aftermath Lvl. 2 with full duration and the same for Lvl. 3.

I hope this information helps.

[TummieGaruda]

So just to confirm, every time you use WS it overwrites the last with another level so

Drakesbane > Drakesbane > Drakesbane would put at level 3?

This looks reasonable

Or is it

100TP DB > 200TP DB > 300TP DB?

Thats a lot of TP to get in one fight against a mob trying to kill you solo

Btw, any confirmation on how hard he hits and are there any AOE moves to watch our for?

100TP DB > 200TP DB > 300TP DB in that order.

[Ophannus]

Acc and double attack potency increases with aftermath so its probably really really easy to get 300% under level 2 aftermath if your double attacking like 75% of the time.