Mythic Weapons Discussion

[tymora]

Anyone figured out how a BLM can survive a fomor hitting on you while trying to get TP? lol

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Anyone figured out how a BLM can survive a fomor hitting on you while trying to get TP? lol

Don't upgrade BLM mythic. Problem solved.

[Sho]

So then it would be more of a staying alive dealie. Fucking sucks if you weren't on your game in that fight if it pans out to be this way.

[Zumi]

Anyone figured out how a BLM can survive a fomor hitting on you while trying to get TP? lol

Sub Ninja?

[Marcicus]

I bet you it's subjob restricted!

[Lyramion]

I bet you it's subjob restricted!

Learn to read - it´s not. The BLU was sub NIN

[Darkdoom]

Aftermath DURATION was what seemed to stack during the Swarm, not the Potency. Although, considering you actually get the Aftermath effect during this battle, and those .dat dialogues seeming to correspond with getting a stronger, and stronger Aftermath, it seems like you might need to be at level 3 aftermath in the last part of the fight to beat him, or have him give up.

[Almalexia]

I honestly thought Almalexia would've been the first.

Thank goodness I wasn't. Fuck getting ZNM items again after blowing the Balrahn fight.

[Malacite]

Yeah I know right?

Why does SE feel the need to cross the line with their schadenfreude constantly? As if just getting to the BC wasn't enough work they have to pull this bullshit on you.


It's times like this I so wish SE was a U.S. based company and not a Japanese one. People would (rightly) be all over SE with lawyers trying to find some kind of loophole to exploit (Mental anguish, unjust business practices you name it) to get the message through to these dumb fucks who made Crono Cross (arguably the worst RPG ever);


STOP FUCKING TORTURING YOUR CUSTOMER BASE! We understand you want to make it a challenge and we don't object to that, but you frequently cross the line in ludicrous fashion. In short, it's bullshit like this that makes WoW so much more popular.

[Kaslo]

Yeah I know right?

Why does SE feel the need to cross the line with their schadenfreude constantly? As if just getting to the BC wasn't enough work they have to pull this bullshit on you.


It's times like this I so wish SE was a U.S. based company and not a Japanese one. People would (rightly) be all over SE with lawyers trying to find some kind of loophole to exploit (Mental anguish, unjust business practices you name it) to get the message through to these dumb fucks who made Crono Cross (arguably the worst RPG ever);


STOP FUCKING TORTURING YOUR CUSTOMER BASE! We understand you want to make it a challenge and we don't object to that, but you frequently cross the line in ludicrous fashion. In short, it's bullshit like this that makes WoW so much more popular.

In theory you could still be all over their asses with lawyers now...

[Flight_93]

Isn't this sort of a who cares?

So one guy none of us knows is stuck takin pics for a few more weeks and remembers to bring an ic wing- its hardly worth throwing up yer arms like it's another AV.

[Almalexia]

Isn't this sort of a who cares?

So one guy none of us knows is stuck takin pics for a few more weeks and remembers to bring an ic wing- its hardly worth throwing up yer arms like it's another AV.

Sure. Compared to the quest that preceded it, collecting another PW pop set is a piece of cake. He obviously has the support to make it possible and I guarantee he'll have made a second attempt on Balrahn before the end of the month.

But, come on... this is BG.

[Keyln]

This is beyond insane. Mythics compared to relics? Hardly.

Okay, so let's review the requirements, shall we?

First, you need Captain. No big deal, really, just need to complete the ToAU missions, and complete all 50 assaults once.

Second, you need to get the weapon from Nyzul Isle as well as the Mystic Key. Much easier now that a group only needs to climb it once and if you somehow didn't get the weapon you want, just enter floor 100 with the job you want and bada-boom, mythic weapon.

Third, you need to get the titles from various bosses. Not too hard, as any HNM shell worth their salt can do it. Might need help with some of the salvage bosses, but again, not too hard for anyone who knows people.

Fourth, and this is the kicker, is that you need 150,000 tokens, 100,000 ampoules, 30,000 Alexanderites, and need to redo all 50 assaults. Ampoules are fairly easy to get now that Einjerhar actually rewards better. Tokens aren't too bad since there are people shouting for Nyzul Isle all the time. But doing assaults at the same time with Nyzul? Come on. And the Alexanderites are beyond stupid. To put things into perspective, it takes roughly 18,000 currency, depending on weapon, and it's not unusual to get 200-300 per city run. On the other hand, alexanderite only drops from Salvage, and only 50-80 per run, if people are lucky. Yeah...relic costs almost half as less and drops twice as often, and mythics are supposed to be weaker? For the love of mike, someone clue SE in on the concept of effort vs. reward.

Then...and then...you need the 3 tier 4 ZNM items. That drop after following this long chain of ZNMs...that require getting many many pictures...and then they only drop 10% of the time! And you need all 3! The real kicker, though, is that turning in these items starts a BC, which, if you lose, you get to start the whole line of ZNMs again! Never mind those poor souls who might want to fight PW. Or that line of people who are also working for those mythics. And I seriously doubt we'll see SCH, BLM, or BRD mythics...ever.

Yeah, so, this is beyond insane. Does SE test this stuff? Do they not see the balance issues that are present with this? Or are they just assuming this stuff?

So, here's what I suggest to fix this stuff: First, require only 2 of the four in the fourth step. Get either 100,000 ampoules and 150,000 tokens. Or, if you love assault, get all 50 assaults and one of the other 3. And if you want Alexandrite, my suggestion is lower the requirement to 10,000. And increase the number of ways of getting Alexandrite. Maybe create a special ISNM where nothing pops but gears, and it's possible to get tons of Alexandrite.

And on the fifth step, make it so that only ONE of the tier 4 items are required. This way, if you lose, you don't have to start the whole thing over again. I ask this, because I figure that asking them to drop 100% is too much, or maybe not losing the items when going to the BC. But, hey, one can dream.

These mythics aren't hard...they're Absolute Virtue hard! Someone, make the madness end!

[Arthars]

.dat logs seem to be gaining access to all 3 aftermath

interesting :O offhanding a M kris for my THF will help XD

[Gtype954]

ok after reading everyones posts and seeing the .DATs.

its very safe to say that zahak is actually there simply for you to gain TP leading into the balrahn fight.

If you can get 300 TP off zahak, you can unleash it on balrahn right when the balrahn fight starts, you would get the highest aftermath which would help you get 200 TP pretty fast, then you can use an icarus wing for the 100 TP aftermath and boom done?
It can possibly end before his HP runs outs, or you will have to deal the finishing blow with 300 TP which i doubt.

Like someone else posted.. chain affinity uses up TP if you use the spell first and not the WS.. or if he did use the weapon skill first, (which he did, they said he created darkness with vertical cleave) That i doubt he used chain affinty with 300 TP. he most likely used it at 100 TP thinking the SC would kill balrahn with its damage. In order words, the blu was trying to zerg/TPburn balrahn since its a solo fight and he got nervous, as opposed to storing up 300 TP.

After reading the 3 different .DATs, its safe to say someone figured out this bc.


what would we do without .DATs... really, what would be do. Life without .DATs, /grasp. They make version updates really fun to read during maintenance

lets make a .DAT appreciation day lol. Free beer for everyone

[Marcicus]

Learn to read - it´s not. The BLU was sub NIN

ohsnap, forreal? naw, really?


In any case, losing t4 pop sets is absolutely ridiculous. The only way it could be justified is if they were 100% drop. Least the guy didn't lose all his title, assault logs, and alexandrite as if he never obtained them

[jimbobsonofgod]

If you can get 300 TP off zahak, you can unleash it on balrahn right when the balrahn fight starts, you would get the highest aftermath which would help you get 200 TP pretty fast, then you can use an icarus wing for the 100 TP aftermath and boom done?I t can possibly end before his HP runs outs, or you will have to deal the finishing blow with 300 TP which i doubt.

I would assume that you are required to do 100TP WS 200 TP WS then 300 TP Ws in that order not the other way around

[Mazmaz]

If it's the 100-200-300% TP theory, how come the BLU didn't notice Balrahn say the first line for the aftermath? (or did he?!?)

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The BLU might not have noticed it or didn't think it was important.

[Arthars]

i think he did, but directly translated from JP > EN, but the message is about the same meaning

read back 2 pages ago guys