Mythic Weapons Discussion

[Miraun]

Yeah... damn that free market economy of FFXI... we need moar communism to take over Vana'Diel.

Seconded Jackyl's request

[Spider-Dan]

How is it "abusing profit" when people are clearly willing to pay over 3k for alex?

This smacks of the tired old "stop undercutting!" vs. "stop price-gouging!" whining. The majority of the FFXI community needs to take an economics class.

[Isiolia]

Maybe hes convinced people hes upgrading BLU? Im not on Pande but whats to say he isnt selling what he buys cheap on a mule and no one is the wiser?

I've known him for years, and he's in my social shell. I'm not just going on rumors or whatnot. He's been working on the other requirements as well, so there's a visible effort outside of the Alexandrite.

He's quite capable of making money otherwise.

[miokomioko]

Please stop bitching about what people are trying to sell Alexandrite for... you're ruining this fresh thread that had nothing but good, solid information for 2/3 of the first page.

[Ruin]

It is mainly luck based we have gone 0/11 sometimes and then 3 decide to drop back to back, pretty retarded that they use PW pop items in the mythic process but I guess it won't be that big of a deal till PW is killed. When/if that time ever comes they are probably going to have to consider upping the drop rate

This part seems one of the hardest to do to me, they better make the t4 drop 100% sooner than later.. I mean if ur LS barely does znm and you work as much as you can solo for days and days, then get people to kill all the t3s...then see no drop over and over again on the 1 T4.. man

[Valisk]

How is it "abusing profit" when people are clearly willing to pay over 3k for alex?

This smacks of the tired old "stop undercutting!" vs. "stop price-gouging!" whining. The majority of the FFXI community needs to take an economics class.

Because he is telling people that he is upgrading but not and profiting. Just like the dynamis/funding thing. If you tell people that you are upgrading and they upgrade, then most people don't have a problem with them sponsoring. If someone tells you that they are upgrading but sell all the currency after they sponsor and pockets the gil, that's abusing the system. This Alex "scam" is in the same boat as that.

[Arcanesoul]

cut scene stuff....

......
The weapon... Is it...speaking!?
Hear me, ≺Player Name≻.
I am to be remade...
Your burden is a great one. Yet I shall bear the load for you.
If my powers you desire, you need naught but feed me...
≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻#≺BAD CHAR: 8280≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻... ≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻#ａ≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻... ≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻#ｂ≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻... I hunger! Seek out the place of the dead in the hallowed grounds of Caedarva Mire...Do this thing, and greatness shall I bring to thine name and hand!

Rumor/speculation/questions? The BC they showed in the JP vanafest (with mythic-kraken whm); was it definitely a special bc like those against serpent generals or might this have been what goes on in the BC rather than a fight against Balrahn? Is he a confirmed mob in the dats and are any of the swarm mobs in the dats? The CS text just seemed a lot like the drk starter quest so I thought I'd ask.

[Sho]

Rumor/speculation/questions? The BC they showed in the JP vanafest (with mythic-kraken whm); was it definitely a special bc like those against serpent generals or might this have been what goes on in the BC rather than a fight against Balrahn? Is he a confirmed mob in the dats and are any of the swarm mobs in the dats? The CS text just seemed a lot like the drk starter quest so I thought I'd ask.

Well, Balrahn shows up in the .DATs in Nyzul Isle with the ID 0104D19A, right after x2 Amnaf, x4 Imperial Gear, x4 Imperial Gears, Naja Salaheem, Razfahd, Alexander, Raubahn, and Zahak. If you've done ToAU completely, you'll know TM42 is a BCNM fight vs Amnaf and her army of Gears, then against her as a Soulflayer (with Naja helping you). Then from there the TM44 fight is vs Raubahn, Razfahd, and Alexander. I can't explain Zahak being in there, but Balrahn comes right after, implying a BCNM style fight vs him in some form or fashion.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5618/datzrn6.png

[Almalexia]

I doubt one person can buy all Alexandrites of a server to control the price.

Well, it was working fine for me until other people decided they wanted to enjoy the content they're paying for.

Bunch of selfish fucks.

[Kaslo]

If he's a BLU and the fight is anything like G5 for BLU, then screw you SE!

[Malacite]

Pretty sure Balrahn also appears as a Soulflayer mob in Einherjar > _ >


Also, god forbid people exercise some discretion and refuse to pay the almost extortionist high prices (like some ppl selling 100 currencies from Dyna for 700-800k each.... what the fuck man?)

One of the key rules in business/economics; the power rests with the buyer, not the seller. If the price is too high then don't pay. A lot of expensive shit would come down in price awfully fast if people would just stop paying succumbing to the whims of every asshole who wants to milk people for every last gil they have.

[Lordwafik]

If he's a BLU and the fight is anything like G5 for BLU, then screw you SE!

And if you lose to him you lose forever, just like when Nyzul first came out

[Toksyuryel]

One of the key rules in business/economics; the power rests with the buyer, not the seller. If the price is too high then don't pay. A lot of expensive shit would come down in price awfully fast if people would just stop paying succumbing to the whims of every asshole who wants to milk people for every last gil they have.

Doesn't happen in RL, why would it happen in FFXI? We have the same collection of idiot consumers the real world has. That's why gilbuyers even exist.

[jimbobsonofgod]

Man if it is any of the following people are gonna /wrist for sure.

1 Shot deal once you fight if you lose, you lose out permanently

Or if you lose you have to re-acquire the zeni trophies if you lose.

[Jkun]

Man if it is any of the following people are gonna /wrist for sure.

1 Shot deal once you fight if you lose, you lose out permanently

Or if you lose you have to re-acquire the zeni trophies if you lose.

I dunno, if the PUP one was like the ENM pre-patch or G5 and he can use a random Auto, getting stuck with a close-combat Valor or a Magic Mortar spamming Harle (hi2uOb) then you're kinda fucked. But since PUP's already been done either he got lucky on whatever random frame it used, is very skilled, or it isn't THAT hard.

[chazzyphizzle]

Nobody has completed that portion of the quest, it was just a person watching the c/s's involved with mythics.

[Melios]

Nobody has completed that portion of the quest, it was just a person watching the c/s's involved with mythics.

So all that stuff about Kenkonken was a hoax?

[TummieGaruda]

So all that stuff about Kenkonken was a hoax?

The only part about that Kenkonken stuff that wasn't true was someone actually obtaining it. What was shown in the CS helps shed some light on exactly what is said and pretty much who the final fight is against.

[Xno Kappa]

How is it "abusing profit" when people are clearly willing to pay over 3k for alex?

This smacks of the tired old "stop undercutting!" vs. "stop price-gouging!" whining. The majority of the FFXI community needs to take an economics class.

^ This.

People need to stop with the petty online morality with trivial shit people are clearly willing to pay/sell for regardless of the reason.

[milkyway]

Hello Blue Gartr,

This is Milkyway

First I want to say sorry for Wopa's drama in a nice fresh new thread that was clean. Wopa if you want to bad mouth me fine, that's your choice but just start another thread so the other 400 readers who couldn't give a shit don't have to scroll through it . You can title it Wopa the Holy Saint vs the evil Candybar man.


For my part in this

yes I'm upgrading the mythic,

Yes I've been doing Einherjar for 8 months
( with Rakshaka, runs tues. and Sat. great guy!)

yes I've been re-farming Nysul for 150k points
(56k with Hugs and Cuddles LS)

yes I've been farming ZNMs
( doing this with Medea's LS every wed. and Fri)

and finally Yes Wopa is /wrist cuz he wants to buy all your alexandrites for 3k
instead of paying 3.5k for them cuz he's a poor little taru with only 5 relics to his name (550 Million gil)... with that I'll leave you with one final quote from this Holy man himself.

Originally Posted by wop
You know, some people will believe anything.

That's why the rich will be richer, and the poor will remain poor.

Fact.

Again Wopa if you want to come back at me with how I'm lying about this or that fine I'll answer any questions just please do it in another thread and leave this to actual mythic weapons not your personal agenda.