POL NEWS : version update (Dec. 8)

[Seraph]

Having someone summon Alexander and it just sit there spamming 'Ω' in the text log would be pretty damn funny. The first few times.

[Ohemgee]

Fuck off I still need to merit tier 1 sch stilllllllllllllllllllll.

[fren.]

More combat merits or bust.

[Seraph]

More combat merits or bust.

I wouldn't mind more magic merits at this point too, honestly...

[Thistle]

I bet I'm the only one here that got this reference.

c.c No, I got it. See also: My reply to him on page one.

[fishstix]

Kinda wondering if this is THE update. The time, lack of normal additional info, etc kinda seems more like a "prep" update to the real one.

I think it's just going to contain small stuff and then the winter seasonal event

[Sylvrdragon]

Dec. 5, 2008 03:00 [PST] From: FINAL FANTASY XI
All Worlds Maintenance (Dec. 8 )

At the following time, we will be performing maintenance on all FINAL FANTASY XI worlds to accompany the version update. During this period, FINAL FANTASY XI will be unavailable.

Thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter.

* This maintenance will be accompanied by a version update. After maintenance is complete, the update will automatically begin after you press the "Play" button. After that, please follow the instructions on the screen.

* The World Transfer Service will be unavailable starting 30 minutes before the maintenance. Please wait until after the maintenance is completed before attempting to use this service.

* You may receive errors such as "POL-1160" or "POL-0010" during the download process due to heavy server traffic. If you are unable to access the update, we ask that you please wait a while and then try again.

Thank you for your cooperation and understanding in making this a smooth version update.

* For the update details, please refer to "Topics" on the official PlayOnline.com web site or PlayOnline Viewer which will be available on Monday, Dec. 8, 2008.

[Date & Time]
Dec. 8, 2008 from 8:00 to 11:00 (PST)
* Maintenance completion time may be subject to change.

[Affected Services]
FINAL FANTASY XI

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[Qeomash]

I'm totally expecting Odin & Alexander; I remember them mentioning somewhere that they were taking a while because they were dealing with really large models. Also, Cait Sith has fighting animations since the last update, but that could just mean we'll fight her.

God, I hope so. I don't recall where they said they were dealing with "really large models", but either way, I hope and pray we get both Alexander and Odin.

Worst case, if they add them, they make you pick one or the other. Or they don't give them to us because of the continuity issue of possibly summoning Odin during ToAU 44, thus ending the fight immediately and proceeding directly to the epic but anticlimactic cut scene.


On topic: good show SE for having the update so soon!

[Seraph]

God, I hope so. I don't recall where they said they were dealing with "really large models", but either way, I hope and pray we get both Alexander and Odin.

Worst case, if they add them, they make you pick one or the other. Or they don't give them to us because of the continuity issue of possibly summoning Odin during ToAU 44, thus ending the fight immediately and proceeding directly to the epic but anticlimactic cut scene.


On topic: good show SE for having the update so soon!

I would assume ToAU 44 would be a prereq for obtaining them as summons. As far as summons being weird during events, what about summoning an Avatar to beat on itself in the other fights? >_>

[LD]

I would assume ToAU 44 would be a prereq for obtaining them as summons. As far as summons being weird during events, what about summoning an Avatar to beat on itself in the other fights? >_>

You can do that with the other Avatars, so it's not really an issue.

[Destinye]

I would assume ToAU 44 would be a prereq for obtaining them as summons. As far as summons being weird during events, what about summoning an Avatar to beat on itself in the other fights? >_>

Well, aren't Odin/Alexander one of the avatars who are actually the avatars themselves?

The elemental avatars are just that..avatars, projections..we're not actually summoning the avatars themselves, with Alexander, I think it was just the will/spirit of Alexander?..and Dark Rider is just the projection of Odin from Einherjar?

[Seraph]

You can do that with the other Avatars, so it's not really an issue.

That's exactly my point.

Well, aren't Odin/Alexander one of the avatars who are actually the avatars themselves?

The elemental avatars are just that..avatars, projections..we're not actually summoning the avatars themselves, with Alexander, I think it was just the will/spirit of Alexander?..and Dark Rider is just the projection of Odin from Einherjar?

I'd say that the Dark Rider and Iron Giant are more or less the avatars (or a form of Avatar) of Odin and Alexander respectively. My point was that in the Avatar battles, it's weird fighting say, Titan Prime with....Titan. Same weird shit with poping Odin or Alex out in the ToAU 44 fight.

How often to BCNM battles actually reflect what is happening in the plot? Where were all my friendly NPCs in almost all of the CoP battles? WHERE!?!?! D:

[Reapz]

Lets not forget Diabolos in his own dynamis etc

[Qeomash]

The surprise in the update will actually be the unimplementation of the summoner job due to multiple continuity issues in regards to the summoning of avatars during storyline events.

Seriously, though:

Well, aren't Odin/Alexander one of the avatars who are actually the avatars themselves?

Yes, they are the light and dark avatars of the celestial avatars.

The elemental avatars are just that..avatars, projections..we're not actually summoning the avatars themselves, with Alexander, I think it was just the will/spirit of Alexander?..and Dark Rider is just the projection of Odin from Einherjar?

The dark rider and iron colossus, I believe, are important because, to our knowledge, Alexander and Odin do not have their own protocrystals as the others do. It's believed Odin's is the dark crystal seen shattered during CoP, and Alexanders was likely destroyed when Odin fought and destroyed Alzadaal form of the avatar.

Without their protocrystals, they are instead forced to rely on other means to anchor themselves in our plane. Odin chooses strong warriors to project himself through. Alexander chooses to possess and control certain giant automatons.

Edit: forgot to include the rest of my points...

[LD]

Finally found it.

- SMN, they said they'd already decided which new avatar(s) will be added but they need to do some more testings because the model(s) are (is?) big (?) and there may be issues with displaying so it will take some time.

Cait Sith sure as hell isn't big and Ixion is around as big as Titan. Odin, even his non-horse model, is larger than Diabolos. Alexander is a fucking boulder with a bunch of moving parts. Pretty sure they'll be added, even if they have a lot of edits done to them.

[Qeomash]

Cait Sith sure as hell isn't big and Ixion is around as big as Titan. Odin, even his non-horse model, is larger than Diabolos. Alexander is a fucking boulder with a bunch of moving parts. Pretty sure they'll be added, even if they have a lot of edits done to them.

Thanks for that. I missed that detail in all the fan fest wrap ups. Knew they were testing, didn't know it was that particular reason.

I know both are huge (swapping the Alexander dat with Carbuncle is fun and amusing), so it makes sense. There is a smaller version of Alexander in the dats, of a completed Alzadaal Ruins, specifically. I'm not sure if it was actually used in the CS with the map and tiny model of Alexander, or any CS for that matter. They could use that, though it would need additional animations beyond floating idly.

[Xanthe]

Thanks for that. I missed that detail in all the fan fest wrap ups. Knew they were testing, didn't know it was that particular reason.

I know both are huge (swapping the Alexander dat with Carbuncle is fun and amusing), so it makes sense. There is a smaller version of Alexander in the dats, of a completed Alzadaal Ruins, specifically. I'm not sure if it was actually used in the CS with the map and tiny model of Alexander, or any CS for that matter. They could use that, though it would need additional animations beyond floating idly.

It was used in some ToAU mission cutscenes.

[LD]

Yea, but the TM44 version is the 'cool one.' Also, the shiny version has no animations other than floating and isn't all that big (that I've noticed, anyway.) Basically, if they were fixing up the map version, I think it would be taking less work than they're implying. The mission version is definitely the larger and more complicated of the two, so the extra time to fiddle with it makes more sense (fixing the base model and going over the branching animations with a fine-toothed comb).

[byte]

Is that last picture what the inside of your arteries look like after eating it?

(Bacon log is worth the sacrifice!)

You're right.. it's probably really unhealthy ; ; but it looks so fucking delicious. I want one.. NOW.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Yea, but the TM44 version is the 'cool one.' Also, the shiny version has no animations other than floating and isn't all that big (that I've noticed, anyway.) Basically, if they were fixing up the map version, I think it would be taking less work than they're implying. The mission version is definitely the larger and more complicated of the two, so the extra time to fiddle with it makes more sense (fixing the base model and going over the branching animations with a fine-toothed comb).

The immobile Alex model wouldn't make sense since it's physical and not ethereal or something. But then again PUPs can summon something larger than a Tarutaru out of nowhere and Naja does mention that archaia can somehow replicate (so Alex might have the ability to make matter out of nothing). If they do make it the immobile one, maybe they'll make him more powerful (as it already has a disadvantage) and possibly more EXP/merit-friendly since it won't be as useful for events (perhaps that "aura" idea some people had).