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  1. #301
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    Nope.

  2. #302
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    If you are going to WS in Osode as opposed to Hauby+1 I don't really like Alky's for that, but that's just my opinion. I'm not a SAM, but despite all the WOOOO Y/G/K HAVE HIDDEN ACC AND ATK BONUSES I DON'T NEED NO ACC GEAR I see a fuckload of SAMs whiff a fuckload of Kashas and Gekkos, and you really don't look like you have a lot of Acc going on unless you use Sushi, but I don't think that's really optimal for SAM either. Myochin Kote +1 are a nice alternative IMO.
    If you parse any Sam and their melee Acc is above 60-70%, their Ws Acc will/should (In theory atleast) be capped (94-95%~). You gain something along the lines of a +40 Acc (May be wrong on exact #'s, can't remember) bonus for Y/G/K along with most single hit Ws's which lets you pile as much Str on as possible

  3. #303
    You fall, we haul. Saving your Ass is my business
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    Tp setup
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    SA+DE( also DE solo)
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    SA+SB/MS
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    TA
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    i know my TA setup needs work( thf hands getting made as we speak), and few others...any suggestions?

  4. #304
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    yeah, it's called toss cuchulain's mantle and tp and foragers. >_>

  5. #305
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    Dusk.

  6. #306
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    Get Dusk hands/feet..


    Edit: Gdi Hyriu.

  7. #307
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    it makes 0 sense to tp in rapparee harness and war gloves +1 over acc body piece and dusk, or is that just me...

  8. #308
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    Sea gorget for WS.

    Also look into the enkidu set, it's got some decent pieces.

  9. #309
    You just got served THE CALLISTO SPECIAL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veyron View Post
    If you parse any Sam and their melee Acc is above 60-70%, their Ws Acc will/should (In theory atleast) be capped (94-95%~). You gain something along the lines of a +40 Acc (May be wrong on exact #'s, can't remember) bonus for Y/G/K along with most single hit Ws's which lets you pile as much Str on as possible
    See, this is what I hear from SAMs all the time, and yet I always see them with nothing close to capped WS Acc, lol. I don't see many Yuki misses, but I see a shitload of whiffed Kashas and Gekkos. I know eyeballing isn't a parser, but when you see several whiffed WS in a 10 minute span I gotta question it, lol.

    Edit: Also if I see a SAM with melee Acc around 70% I'm not letting them stay in the party long enough to see how their WS Acc is, lol.

  10. #310
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcicus View Post
    yeah, it's called toss cuchulain's mantle and tp and foragers. >_>
    Nah.

  11. #311
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    pic of my shiny new marduk piece. i'll let ffxiah sort out my gearsets for you all.

    http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8...rdukkg7.th.jpg

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  12. #312
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    See, this is what I hear from SAMs all the time, and yet I always see them with nothing close to capped WS Acc, lol. I don't see many Yuki misses, but I see a shitload of whiffed Kashas and Gekkos. I know eyeballing isn't a parser, but when you see several whiffed WS in a 10 minute span I gotta question it, lol.

    Edit: Also if I see a SAM with melee Acc around 70% I'm not letting them stay in the party long enough to see how their WS Acc is, lol.

    parser pretty much proves it tho.

    SAMs tend to WS more than other jobs... so you do tend to see more whiffs than anyone else. Hell, my last pt I had quite a few gekko and kasha whiffs, but was still directly at the 95% acc cap for WS. was hovering around 85% acc for regular melee.

  13. #313
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhais View Post
    parser pretty much proves it tho.

    SAMs tend to WS more than other jobs... so you do tend to see more whiffs than anyone else. Hell, my last pt I had quite a few gekko and kasha whiffs, but was still directly at the 95% acc cap for WS. was hovering around 85% acc for regular melee.
    This. You may notice the whiffs over them landing because they're just that, whiffs. People usually take more note of that compared to the landed WS's.

  14. #314
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    I don't know about the other Sams, but it seems to go in streaks. If I miss one gekko/kasha then I'm probably going to miss several in a relatively short amount of time, then it goes back to never missing for an hour and a half. Then there are just the bad days where I can't hit the broad side of a skoffin to save my life, no idea wtf that's about.

  15. #315
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    Well, perhaps it's because the game "forces" you to have 95% accuracy; if you're never missing for a fair amount of time, there needs to be a 5% miss streak to make up for it I guess!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaun View Post
    I don't know about the other Sams, but it seems to go in streaks. If I miss one gekko/kasha then I'm probably going to miss several in a relatively short amount of time, then it goes back to never missing for an hour and a half. Then there are just the bad days where I can't hit the broad side of a skoffin to save my life, no idea wtf that's about.
    I know exactly what you're talking about, was actually talking to Richardd about it a few weeks ago. Seems like once a month you go on a crazy miss streak to make up that 5%, but then are fine for another month!

  17. #317
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    well, rich is gimp so he will always miss/come in 2nd. the AV parse showed this vey

  18. #318
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veyron View Post
    I know exactly what you're talking about, was actually talking to Richardd about it a few weeks ago. Seems like once a month you go on a crazy miss streak to make up that 5%, but then are fine for another month!
    Its just random unless someone has data to show otherwise. Its the nature of people and how we 'recall' bad events when we use memory and not facts.

    Example: as a sam, assuming 95% WS accuracy, under good xp circumstances, we can perform on average around 28-30 weapon skills every 10 minutes, with soboro even more. In the course of 3 hours, that could accumulate to over 500. Odds are we will see at least 1 back to back miss once every 2-2.5 hours. A back-to-back-to back miss will occur on average every 48 hours of playing.

    In addition, we would have a 50% chance to see a miss just 3 minutes before or 3 minutes after that back to back miss. In the course of just two 3 hour xp sessions, it would be very probable to see us miss as much as 4 times in a 6 minute period including 1 back to back. Obviously, over the course of a month, we could see 5 misses within a 6 minute span.

    The key thing is, we don't mentally recall most of our misses until they occur more than we expect. Once that happens, we pay attention and if another miss occurs, we are very well aware of it. If it happens again, it becomes a serious memorable pattern. But its more than likely just random.

  19. #319
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    I missed two Gekkos in Salvage tonight and I got all self-conscious about it. Then I realized my WS damage was lots and I TP fast, so it wasn't a huge deal. I only missed 2...

  20. #320
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    I figure I might as well show what I've got.

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    I know, Sea Gorgets. I'm working on it...

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