***December Version Update: .DAT Mining Discussion***

[Jones]

Get both.

Relic body for TP/Pet TP and Harness for WS.

Oh, for PUP sure. I have my Pantin Tobe and two pop sets for Tinnin. I was commenting on DNC in this instance. For DNC, it seems Enkidu's vs. Etoile is fairly marginal.

[Jkun]

Spoiler: show

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vWihfifjey...xo/s1600/3.JPG

That's the gayest thing I have ever seen.

[Meian]

SCH AF1 head and AF2 body together means 4 hp/dot on as long as Sublimation is up, which means -80 HP per minute.
Stoneskin normally caps at 350 HP and lasts 5 minutes, meaning it will be consumed by Sublimation before it even normally wears off.

This is negligible most of the time but it can really be annoying in solo situations.
Of course nothing prevents SCHs from simply recasting Stoneskin more often and offset the HP loss with Regen/Drain, but this kind of defeats the purpose of having the extra Subliamtion tick.
Ixion Cloak might still perform better in such cases.

Too lazy for math. Does this mean having both pieces will be better than using one and stand in refresh? Especially with Sublimation merits?

[The Blackrose]

SCH AF1 head and AF2 body together means 4 hp/dot on as long as Sublimation is up, which means -80 HP per minute.
Stoneskin normally caps at 350 HP and lasts 5 minutes, meaning it will be consumed by Sublimation before it even normally wears off.

This is negligible most of the time but it can really be annoying in solo situations.
Of course nothing prevents SCHs from simply recasting Stoneskin more often and offset the HP loss with Regen/Drain, but this kind of defeats the purpose of having the extra Subliamtion tick.
Ixion Cloak might still perform better in such cases.

Except for the fact that Sublimation takes off 25% Max HP unless you use Enhanced Sublimation merits. The cutoff for me is around 248 MP, which does not kill Stoneskin.

[Jkun]

Oh, for PUP sure. I have my Pantin Tobe and two pop sets for Tinnin. I was commenting on DNC in this instance. For DNC, it seems Enkidu's vs. Etoile is fairly marginal.

oya, I took a shower so missed that post w

[Xanthe]

SCH AF1 head and AF2 body together means 4 hp/dot on as long as Sublimation is up, which means -80 HP per minute.
Stoneskin normally caps at 350 HP and lasts 5 minutes, meaning it will be consumed by Sublimation before it even normally wears off.

This is negligible most of the time but it can really be annoying in solo situations.
Of course nothing prevents SCHs from simply recasting Stoneskin more often and offset the HP loss with Regen/Drain, but this kind of defeats the purpose of having the extra Subliamtion tick.
Ixion Cloak might still perform better in such cases.

Sublimation still drains the same net amount of HP, just quicker thus making it more efficient. Sublimation will always drain 25% of your max HP.

[Callisto]

I think it's pretty nice, you can wear AF head + AF2 body until pool is capped, then swap to Vermy/Ixion when it's full and max your MP restoration.

[Lebzile]

1/1 within the first 2 days of it coming out.

Congratulations, you got lucky on a drop that several other people have had poor drop rates on. Proceed with patting yourself on the back. ^-')b

[Callisto]

If anyone else is playing with new dats + model viewer, mind posting Elv M DNC AF2?

[Imitarate]

moar pittures up! sorry for mithra only, was really quick and a friend insisted it be mithra. the dabo looks really, really neat. too bad it's not really a drg spear. eyepatch is awesome and a HALF, though. worth the wait. gothic looks alright. the relics are meh, look-wise. nice palette swap on dnc, but sch is boring visually as well as statistically.

[edit] Coming up, Callisto. One-time only special order.

[Destinye]

1/1 within the first 2 days of it coming out.

Then you've confused the term "easy" with "luck".

[Xanthe]

Some quick and dirty model viewer lists I made (just mithra, i never did tau relics from last patch so i'm way behind), better views of the relic, the new gothic pieces, the bell, the dabo, and THE MIGHTY EYEPATCH

Where did you get the name Dabo for that spear? It hasn't been posted by name/stats in the results thread yet.

[Mizango]

If anyone else is playing with new dats + model viewer, mind posting Elv M DNC AF2?

Say it ain't so Callisto

[Jkun]

but sch is boring visually as well as statistically.

I think you're confusing the word boring with arousing. Well, on mithra. I wouldn't really...on...you know...shut up.

[JigglyJam]

Didn't read any of the other posts in this topic.



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BUFFOON'S COLLAR FUCK YEAH

[Meian]

I think you're confusing the word boring with arousing. Well, on mithra. I wouldn't really...on...you know...shut up.

No skirt on female taru :\ *fantasy time*

[Spira]

for some reason i cant find DNC relic AF on FFXItool...

[Massimo]

I use it for COR/RDM/PLD, 4 Acc isn't exactly terrible as a TP earring, just as much as a Suppa if you don't have one.

Was talking about the new earring, not Hollow. Guess I was unclear.

[Jkun]

Didn't read any of the other posts in this topic.



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BUFFOON'S COLLAR FUCK YEAH

IF it stacks with AF hands. If not, hands are better since they also enhance maneuvers. DUN GET TOO EXCITED, REMEMBER THIS IS A LEVEL 5 ITEM. It could do the exact same thing pre-AF.

[ByeByeTasai]

Dabo is like a Tomoe +/-/- 1