***December Version Update: .DAT Mining Discussion***

[Sanjiyan]

If the blind isn't strong (not like the blind potion which basically drops you 0 accuracy), it could be potentially useful with bat earrings and that WS crit kabuto (don't even remember the name because nobody uses it).

But yeah... odd item indeed.

[Jkun]

Are you saying by equipping both they'd cancel each other out?

Why would SE do that? That would be retarded... (lol)

Maybe that's why it's called a buffoon's collar. Because only idiots would equip both when they do the same thing.

I dunno though, lol. I have a pretty miserable feeling thinking they just took the stat from AF Hands and tacked it on a lower level collar to stop low level PUPs crying that their automaton breaks too often. If they do stack, I'm pretty sure Kekonken would still both them the fuck out of water, what with it being a Mythic and all.

And I get to spam some more Ice maneuvers. But I'm not holding my hopes high.

Nah, saying that SE /would/ be retarded to do that... and there's no reason not to use both. Even if the effects don't stack, it'll be a while before I find the time to really do some tests on overloading.

There's a reason for wearing it though, and that's from level 5-AF level. Wearing a level 5 item at 75 is also a bit...yar. Weird, even if it is from macros.

[Miraun]

I don't count additional hits from weapon skills in a 6-hit setup.

Rechecked the math... even though I said I wouldn't. If you lost the Eucphoria ring and tathlum, you could still get to 100% if you got 18% TP return on your WS, so you're allowed to miss 1 hit on your Drakesbane....

/true/ 6 hit setups are nice... but they're not really that useful for DRGs from what I've found. Even if we completely whiff a WS, our Jump with some +jump TP gear will result in a 18% TP with barone legs, 19% with Conte, which is WS TP. Plus we'll always have a jump ready at the beginning of a long fight to get that initial TP.

[Zumi]

So far I absolutely hate the OP npc move, it now takes me twice as long to get to the past WotG zones. My HP is in Whitegate so whenever I want to get to the past I would do this: Whitegate use warp taru > Port Windurst > West Saru > West Saru [S] > Windurst Waters [S]

Because the OP NPC is by the mog house it is now a long ass walk across the whole port windrust to get out to West Saru. When it use to be a few steps away.

Other bad thing is now I can't easily get signet right after using the silver coin taru. Since the OP NPC use to be right next to the West saru exit I could, trade silver coin, get signet then OP to whatever zone I wanted too. There theres a long run to get signet and a run back to OP.

[Xanthe]

Rechecked the math... even though I said I wouldn't. If you lost the Eucphoria ring and tathlum, you could still get to 100% if you got 18% TP return on your WS, so you're allowed to miss 1 hit on your Drakesbane....

/true/ 6 hit setups are nice... but they're not really that useful for DRGs from what I've found. Even if we completely whiff a WS, our Jump with some +jump TP gear will result in a 18% TP with barone legs, 19% with Conte, which is WS TP. Plus we'll always have a jump ready at the beginning of a long fight to get that initial TP.

I don't use Barone/Conte either. Ares's and Aurum pieces yield better results. A true 6-hit build is required for situations where you will be using Wheeling Thrust (for damage purposes, they still exist). I run with a true 6-hit build. Check my FFXIAH profile link in my sig for details.

[Sanjiyan]

Do what others do, use the outpost NPC to outpost to a controlled zone, get signet, and outpost back.

A little more gil (not much if you to west saru) but saves like 10 minutes of running.

[Alistaire]

Cocktease, actually
Next tier is at 300 skill
full merit w/ jubbah = 297. 297 -> 299 = no base damage increase
full merit w/ jubbah + keffiyeh = 305. 305->307 = no base damage increase

It's shit.

Right for the wrong reasons.

Full merit with Jubbah = 276+16+15 = 307
Full merit with jubbah + keffiyeh = that +5 = 312

From your site vzx you had tiers @ increments of 9 skill, 301, 310, 319. 307+2 or 312+2 don't break tiers.

However, this does mean you can break a tier with 1 less merit:

No merits + Jubbah = 291, + ring breaks the tier @ 292
Jubbah + Keffiyeh + ring = 298 so only 2 merits needed to break 301 instead of 3.

Was a tier determined to be @ 300 even instead of 301? If so you'd only need 1 merit with all the (non-"salvage:") blu skill + gear. And if 300 is a tier because of rounding issues then next would be 309? so full merits+jubbah+ring would break a tier and then you wouldn't need af2 hat.

And there's still no <Blue Magic> auto translate.

[BRP]

Yeah Windurst's change is basically only negative. It was already easy as fuck to get to Windurst Woods(and therefor a MH) and an Auction House from there using a Warp Taru.

[Tempestwolf]

Scholar Relic looks good enough to catch up to BLM in nuking, skill / INT wise at least ;o /excitement

[Damane]

after teh awesome SCH AF, the SCH relic comes dissapointed :/. Still nice pieces but nothing zomg like the original AF. shoot I was hoping for some more enhances dark arts and light arts stats :/. But still nice pices to get, nice boosts and SE managed to puts Elemental + Dark + enfeeblign + enhancing skill gear on the parts that dont interfeer with the AF parts that enhanced the arts, thx <3

[Tendael]

What a surprise! No AN Body pieces!

But that's OK, I'm sure SE will have an overwhelming majority of players who are content with this update.

[S N K]

Yeah as i guessed, looks meh, i havent done the maths but i have a feeling that delay is going to mess up a 6 hit setup without having to make sacrifices or wear the fugly cuirass, or maybe both

I'm gonna be content with my fork. I dunno maybe in some situations I could use this new thing better but I don't see myself swapping it in for anything serious.

[VZX]

Right for the wrong reasons.

Full merit with Jubbah = 276+16+15 = 307
Full merit with jubbah + keffiyeh = that +5 = 312

From your site vzx you had tiers @ increments of 9 skill, 301, 310, 319. 307+2 or 312+2 don't break tiers.

However, this does mean you can break a tier with 1 less merit:

No merits + Jubbah = 291, + ring breaks the tier @ 292
Jubbah + Keffiyeh + ring = 298 so only 2 merits needed to break 301 instead of 3.

Was a tier determined to be @ 300 even instead of 301? If so you'd only need 1 merit with all the (non-"salvage:") blu skill + gear. And if 300 is a tier because of rounding issues then next would be 309? so full merits+jubbah+ring would break a tier and then you wouldn't need af2 hat.

And there's still no <Blue Magic> auto translate.

Ah yeah, right. I put wrong numbers.
But yeah... it still doesn't do anything to base damage.

[Destinye]

Not sure if this has been reported..

But the new Campaign Ops are either timed based or only 1 person server wide can do 1 run of it per set time frame.

I'm betting it's just time based though..I hope so.

[Havok]

Scholar Relic looks good enough to catch up to BLM in nuking, skill / INT wise at least ;o /excitement

huh

the relic gives some boosts to enfeebling/dark/enhancing

We got +2 skill for the head (relic) or +1 int (af+1)
+2 int for the body (af+1)
+2 magic acc on belt

still no where even close to a blm, not sure what you're talking about

[Jones]

Is the new Dabo polearm even any better than lolStone-Splitter?

[Draconix]

Where can I get the new update files for altana viewer for today's update?

[Jkun]

Sandy's OP NPC is near the fountains on the MH side. Resulting in longer walking distance to the Signet gate guard and back again. Fuck you.

[Gunitsoldier]

Mamool Ja Earring
MND+3
Enchantment: "Reraise III"
CanTradeNPC, CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
All 72

Bye Raphael's rod.

[Flight_93]

Bye Raphael's rod.

When did we ever say hello.. woosh?