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    Teacher Throws Fit over Student Using/Distributing Linux

    Oh this is rich.

    Austinist: AISD Teacher Throws Fit Over Student's Linux CD

    In an age where Windows and OS X reign supreme, it's no wonder that a local AISD middle school teacher became enraged after discovering one of her students distributing what she believed to be bootlegged copies of an operating system in class. While teacher "Karen" was clearly operating under the assumption that she'd scored a minor victory for the Microsofts and other downtrodden software giants of the world, the particular operating system that she ended up disciplining her student for was a freely distributable version of Linux.
    To wit, the following is part of an email that the teacher sent to the person who originally provided said Linux to the student (bolding added by us for emphasis):
    ...observed one of my students with a group of other children gathered around his laptop. Upon looking at his computer, I saw he was giving a demonstration of some sort. The student was showing the ability of the laptop and handing out Linux disks. After confiscating the disks I called a confrence [sic] with the student and that is how I came to discover you and your organization. Mr. Starks, I am sure you strongly believe in what you are doing but I cannot either support your efforts or allow them to happen in my classroom. At this point, I am not sure what you are doing is legal. No software is free and spreading that misconception is harmful.
    These children look up to adults for guidance and discipline. I will research this as time allows and I want to assure you, if you are doing anything illegal, I will pursue charges as the law allows. Mr. Starks, I along with many others tried Linux during college and I assure you, the claims you make are grossly over-stated and hinge on falsehoods. I admire your attempts in getting computers in the hands of disadvantaged people but putting linux on these machines is holding our kids back.
    This is a world where Windows runs on virtually every computer, and putting on a carnival show for an operating system is not helping these children at all.
    What makes the story especially poignant, besides the teacher's disparagingly defeatist attitude, is that the copy of Linux was originally provided to this student courtesy of the Austin-based HeliOS Project, which builds and provides Linux computers to disadvantaged or "exceptionally promising" students. It seems that this kid was merely showing his friends, in an albeit super-nerdy fashion, that there existed an alternative to bloated and overpriced operating systems.
    Starks responded on the HeliOS blog, saying:
    And please...investigate to your heart's content. You are about to have your eyes opened, that is if you actually investigate anything at all. Linux is a free as-in-cost and free as-in-license operating system. It was designed specifically for those purposes. Linux is used to free people from Microsoft. The fact that you seem to believe that Microsoft is the end all and be-all is actually funny in a sad sort of way. Then again, being a good NEA member, you would spout the Union line. Microsoft has pumped tens of millions of dollars into your union. Of course you are going to "recommend" Microsoft Windows". To do otherwise would probably get you reprimanded at the least and fired at the worst. You are only doing what you've been instructed to do. You've been trained well.
    His full response, plus the ensuing comments storm, makes for prime reading. We're hoping that Miss Karen decides to abandon her quixotic quest to "pursue charges as the law allows," because doing otherwise will only subject this state's already-abysmal education system to further ridicule.
    EDIT: The response linked in the article is quite funny as well, copy/pasted for further non-clicking enjoyment.

    This blog is momentarily interrupted to bring you a snippet of recently received email.

    "...observed one of my students with a group of other children gathered around his laptop. Upon looking at his computer, I saw he was giving a demonstration of some sort. The student was showing the ability of the laptop and handing out Linux disks. After confiscating the disks I called a confrence with the student and that is how I came to discover you and your organization. Mr. Starks, I am sure you strongly believe in what you are doing but I cannot either support your efforts or allow them to happen in my classroom. At this point, I am not sure what you are doing is legal. No software is free and spreading that misconception is harmful. These children look up to adults for guidance and discipline. I will research this as time allows and I want to assure you, if you are doing anything illegal, I will pursue charges as the law allows. Mr. Starks, I along with many others tried Linux during college and I assure you, the claims you make are grossly over-stated and hinge on falsehoods. I admire your attempts in getting computers in the hands of disadvantaged people but putting linux on these machines is holding our kids back.

    This is a world where Windows runs on virtually every computer and putting on a carnival show for an operating system is not helping these children at all. I am sure if you contacted Microsoft, they would be more than happy to supply you with copies of an older verison of Windows and that way, your computers would actually be of service to those receiving them..."


    Karen xxxxxxxxx
    xxxxxxxxx Middle School
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    Hmmmm....

    I suppose I should, before anything else, thank you. You have given me the opportunity to show others just what a battle we face in what we do. "We" being those who advocate, support and use Free Open Source Software and Linux in particular.

    If you find my following words terse or less than cordial, take a breath and prepare yourself...what I have to say to you are soft strokes to your hair in comparison to what you are about to experience.

    First off, if there was even the slightest chance that I was doing something illegal, it would not have been done. To think that I would involve my kids in my "illegal" activities is an insult far beyond outrage. You should be ashamed of yourself for putting into print such none sense.

    And please...investigate to your heart's content. You are about to have your eyes opened, that is if you actually investigate anything at all. Linux is a free as-in-cost and free as-in-license operating system. It was designed specifically for those purposes. Linux is used to free people from Microsoft. The fact that you seem to believe that Microsoft is the end all and be-all is actually funny in a sad sort of way. Then again, being a good NEA member, you would spout the Union line. Microsoft has pumped tens of millions of dollars into your union. Of course you are going to "recommend" Microsoft Windows". To do otherwise would probably get you reprimanded at the least and fired at the worst. You are only doing what you've been instructed to do.

    You've been trained well.

    I don't know when you attended college Karen but the Linux of even two years ago pales in feature and ability to what there is available now...and that in turn will pale in a year's time. linux is superior to MS windows in so many ways, they are too numerous to mention here...I am weary of enumerating them. Unlike Microsoft who meters their "improvements" and then shovels them to you every five years or so for purchase; Linux releases their improvements upon their completion. We receive the newest and the best of the system when it is tested to be usable and stable. Karen, you have no idea the slavery you work under...but you don't know any better. The shame of it is, you are trapped with millions of other teachers in obeying the NEA and preaching the goodness of Windows and Microsoft. A superior, free and absolutely entertaining method of operating your computer is within reach and you are unable to grasp it.

    The most disturbing part of this resides in the fact that the AISD purchases millions of dollars of Microsoft Software in a year's time when that money could be better spent on educating our children. A dedicated School Teacher would recognize that fact and lobby for the change to Free Open Source Software and let the money formally spent on MS bindware be used on our kids.

    A teacher who cared about her students would do that.

    That is sad past my ability to express it to you. Don't shackle your students in your prison Karen.

    Now. You give that boy his disks back. Aaron is a brilliant kid and he's learned more using Linux than he ever did using Windows. Those disks and their distribution are perfectly legal and even if he was "disruptive", you cannot keep his property. I have placed a call to the AISD Superintendent and cc'd him a complete copy of your email. It looks like we will get to meet in his office when School starts again after the holiday. I am anxious to meet a person who is this uninformed and still holds a position of authority and learnedness over our children.

    Ken Starks
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    So wait, did Linux sodomize the teacher in the butt or was her failed lesbian lover during college?

    It is pretty funny though, I will admit.

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    I'm not one of those "Look at me I'm so cool, I use Linux" fags, but the teacher's ignorance is quite laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    I'm not one of those "Look at me I'm so cool, I use Linux" fags, but the teacher's ignorance is quite laughable.
    exactly

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    Wow lol......

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    "Do it on your own time gentlemen" would have been perfectly fine if the kid was dicking off in the middle of class, but yeah.

    Idiot teacher.

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    " I admire your attempts in getting computers in the hands of disadvantaged people but putting linux on these machines is holding our kids back."


    LOLOLOL

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    The teacher's idiocy is the stuff legends are made of.

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Too bad Starks gave her a with that whole union spiel. It sounds like he knows, that the teacher's union does NOT force teachers to support Windows and rage against other OS. But now the teacher can be like "the union told me to do it!"

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    All it takes is one idiot to totally shit on a great thing that someone is doing for kids.

    Also edited OP to put in the response from the guy that it seems is in charge of the HeliOS group.

    So glad teachers like that are the ones "educating" children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizango View Post
    " I admire your attempts in getting computers in the hands of disadvantaged people but putting linux on these machines is holding our kids back."


    LOLOLOL
    Yeah I was going to quote the same thing. I don't use Linux and instead use vista, but god, that's some thickheaded shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stiker View Post
    All it takes is one idiot to totally shit on a great thing that someone is doing for kids.

    Also edited OP to put in the response from the guy that it seems is in charge of the HeliOS group.

    So glad teachers like that are the ones "educating" children.
    hahahahaha he pulled the "I'll pwn you IRL" card at the end there. I wish I could be a fly on the wall for that discussion.

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    TONY STARK WAS ABLE TO SCRAPS THIS IN A BOX... WITH A BUILD OF CAVE!

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    Technotwits with teaching degrees annoy the fuck out of me...

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    There has to be a few awesome sudo jokes in here somewhere. I'm just too brain dead at the moment to figure them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eston View Post
    There has to be a few awesome sudo jokes in here somewhere.
    I c what you did there. cleaver.

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    I'm not the most computer literate person out there, but even I know that this teacher is a fucking moron. His response was fucking awesome though. And the fact that he pulled out the IRL card is hilarious. Now if you'll excuse me, AFK banging hot chicks.

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    I wants a Linux OS PC.

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    omg, can you imagine the comments if this ends up on slashdot.org? lol

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    I along with many others tried Linux during college
    This was my favorite part. Is this a drug, or something? Does everyone try Linux during their experimental phase? Was the teacher smoking pot, taking e, and having sex with other women at the same time?

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