Actual Average WS Damage

[Liquidedust]

I cheat on WS averages (sub-1100 is disappointing at birds, 2 brd, miths), Rampager is hax for that though, and why I expected Cletine to do well for Drakes.

I do have Rampager and Claymore Grip but for some reason I seldom use them, I guess it is a sort of inverse BNS in a way (Big Number Symdrome). I do see my WS averages go up with Rampager but at the same time I see my max damage numbers on melee and WS go down which kinda dissapoint me.

So yeah I am in a way still a noobish BNS whore I guess

[Wolfknight]

At Nyzul Birds:
With Drakesbane my last party I parsed 1357 while getting march/mineut
While for comparison:
Hagun on my sam Parsed just under 900 avg[896], while Polearm with penta on sam parsed 1074 both of theses avg were taking with mineut/mad.
I'll edit gear for each in later.

[Max™]

Yeah, Drakes on birds is gonna be fucking sick.

I miss the silly big numbers with Rampager, but I keep in mind the high total damage.

[Ferien]

Its nice to get a reply so fast, but 1000 just becomes an arbitrary number if we don't know in which instance this is preform within. Would you be so kind to expend and elaborate on food choice, gear and BRD/COR buffs please so we could get a better baseline for how that damage was performed .

Thanks in advance.

Oh righto, always /SAM, mithkabobs, and if I remember correctly, most of the time I've got either March x2/Min x2 or Mar x2/DRK/WAR. Seigan 95% of the time.

I haven't had a party since getting Perdu Voulge, and I've only had one since getting Haidate, so I haven't had the chance to tweak my gear yet. I have two sets of TP gear that I swap between depending on whether or not Aggressor is up, generally parse 93~95%. Posted parse is with the posted gearsets except Byakko's Axe instead of Perdu. Yes, poo on the Pallas's Bracelets, but I can neither justify a DEX build (gogo Elvaan) nor buying Alky's (been first on the list for Heca for months). Also, probably going to be using Ares boots instead of Dusk in most situations, after actually looking at the maths regarding them.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...sevKakeshi.jpg

TP - Aggressor:
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...fxi/TP-Agg.png

TP - No Aggressor:
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...i/TP-noagg.png

WS:
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...no/ffxi/ws.png

[Cream Soda]

What was mnk/nin A wearing? Would have to have pretty much full usu to maintain that kinda acc (Or using sushi) if there was no madrigal involved.

[Starr]

Either sushi or madrigal is involved for sure

[Shinryuu]

Anyone care to tell me why people TP in askar zuchetto over walahra turban in a merit (meaning high haste) setting?

Also averaging 900+ on asuran is pretty damn hax, it'd indeed require stuff like usukane.

[razorcat]

Average Asuran on nyzul birds
580 - 630 depending on if the brd has merited minuet.

74% without madrigal
85% with madrigal (can also vary depending on brd merits)

focus used primarily before asuran when its up.

I don't eat food because its pointless to eat on average 1 food per mob. In the 70+ parses I've collected data on, I've been the top parser or within 3% of the leader in 80% of the time. The other 20% are to 2hand jobs or relic owners that eat food like crazy and are dishing out 1300+ average WS damage.

[foopy]

first war/nin: man/ridill, ebody, dusk+1 hands/feet, vbelt, 2xHQsnipers.
second war/nin: first voker, P.harpe/Blau, ebody.
sam/war: love pole.

i was cor/whm: dia2, pulling, curing. no time to engage at all.

cor roll / hunter roll + Marchx2. meat was spammed, but i think everyone ran out after 300 mobs.

[Callisto]

Anyone care to tell me why people TP in askar zuchetto over walahra turban in a merit (meaning high haste) setting?

Typically unless getting something like SV marches or sitting on capped Acc the 2-3 Acc/fSTR point/2-3 Attack will output slightly more than the extra 1% Haste. Plus no goofy chinstrap for non-Elvaan.

[Ferien]

What was mnk/nin A wearing? Would have to have pretty much full usu to maintain that kinda acc (Or using sushi) if there was no madrigal involved.

Don't know what his gear was, but I know I had the BRDs switch one of the songs to Madrigal mid-party because MNK B's acc was in the 70s and myself and MNK A were around 90.

I know MNK A is pretty pimped out though, just not sure how much Usu he has. Hades people, it was Kakeshi, do you know what he usually wears on MNK?

[richardd]

I use K parse.

This was one of the 1st merit pty's i seeked on WAR/SAM 1 day after i got 75 and Kings Justice. Im the only fool who got his nyzul WS before actually capping his gaxe i bet! gawd

anyways. this was in Jade. no 2 hours but mine, got that 2k off a blusterer and only 1 dia was casted.. ever. But its a pickup so meh, ill take whatever i can get, i just want merits.
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/70/warjadesx3.jpg

[Tubbers]

first voker

what?

[Cream Soda]

Anyone care to tell me why people TP in askar zuchetto over walahra turban in a merit (meaning high haste) setting?

Also averaging 900+ on asuran is pretty damn hax, it'd indeed require stuff like usukane.

I'll pull up some of my old parses.

Spoiler: show

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6...g?t=1229586378
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...g?t=1229586291
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6...rbrdbrdrdm.jpg
Next one is more recent (Couple weeks ago)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6...suWeezSidd.jpg

Most of my old parses usually have a madrigal on them, but the more recent parse was march/minuet. I've reached the point in acc gear that I no long require madrigal to do well on birds (but of there are other 1 handers in the pt, usually end up with it anyways)

[foopy]

what?

one war needs to voke here and there, though often times its not needed.

that 2nd war was the one who would voke, take initial hate, and lose the most TP to feather tickle, cast more shadows, etc. so he'll consistantly parse lower.

i'm not sure why i said 'first' voker though...

[Ferien]

one war needs to voke here and there, though often times its not needed.

that 2nd war was the one who would voke, take initial hate, and lose the most TP to feather tickle, cast more shadows, etc. so he'll consistantly parse lower.

i'm not sure why i said 'first' voker though...

I always end up with that job ;;

[Liquidedust]

I always end up with that job ;;

Same here , can someone explain the obsession of /NIN on all bloody jobs atm, I've seen a lot of DRK/NINs SAM/NINs and even DRG/NINs in merit in recent weeks!!!!

[razorcat]

Because healers sometimes refuse to heal you if you go /sam. And if you want to merit, you got to suck it up to the healer else you'll be sitting in whitegate getting all pissed off because some dd/nin got an invite over your /sam. I've had a few healers that ask a dd to go /nin and if they didn't would kick them. They were the boss because a /sea all inv 75 showed only melee's seeking.

[Cream Soda]

Because healers sometimes refuse to heal you if you go /sam. And if you want to merit, you got to suck it up to the healer else you'll be sitting in whitegate getting all pissed off because some dd/nin got an invite over your /sam. I've had a few healers that ask a dd to go /nin and if they didn't would kick them. They were the boss because a /sea all inv 75 showed only melee's seeking.

Having 75 mnk ftw. If I'm forced to sub nin, I change to this job. I can still perform very highly as mnk/nin, but if i were to go sam/nin or drg/nin, that'd be another story

[Liquidedust]

Because healers sometimes refuse to heal you if you go /sam. And if you want to merit, you got to suck it up to the healer else you'll be sitting in whitegate getting all pissed off because some dd/nin got an invite over your /sam. I've had a few healers that ask a dd to go /nin and if they didn't would kick them. They were the boss because a /sea all inv 75 showed only melee's seeking.

I just shake my head at such primadonna healers the few times I do pickup, which I usually don't. If someone would say flat out to me I had to sub NIN I would just thank them for the interest and leave pt as WAR.

Its not like I take a whole lot more damage as WAR/SAM compared to WAR/NIN, sure its more but its not OMGWTF you bleed out at a rate of 10 pints a second!

So I just don't get this line of thought, are the healers there to heal people or just be semi-afk and leech merits?

And lets try an example for the sake of it.

3 Heavy melees Frontline
RDM/WHM COR BRD Backline
(note this is what I usually exp with)

Balladx2
Evoker's Roll (calculated 2 average)
Refresh
Sanction Refresh
1 piece of refresh gear

= 10MP / tick - 2500 MP / 10minutes

+ RDM MP Pool 850 MP

= 3,350 Available MP / 10 minutes

This is the equalent of

• 3 melees Haste cycle 360-480 MP

• 4 Refreshes 160 MP

• 10 Erases for Elegied BRDs and Melees 180 MP

• 18 Dia II's 540 MP (at a pace of 1.8 Colibris per minute)

• 3 Curaga II's 360 MP (1,710 HP restored)

• 8 Regens 120 MP (1,000 HP restored)

• 10 Cure I's 80 MP (to wake up BRD puller that occasionally gets slept)

• 16 Cure IV's 1,408 MP (6,240 HP restored)

3,328 MP consumed / 10 minutes
8,950 HP restored / 10 minutes
53,700 HP restored / hour

Also note that this the equalent of 17,900 damage taken per hour PER melee. For comparison even as WAR/SAM in bird merit I only take 7,000-10,000 damage per hour (10,000 is really on the high scale I should note).

This raises the, somewhat long, question:

How bloody lazy are healers out there if they have a sufficient mp pool to cure double the usual damage I take per hour when I am on WAR/SAM and run Seigan+TE yet refuse people to come /SAM since we take too much damage?

Or do they constantly for some obscure reason want to sit on 75%+ MP?

Seriously it makes no sense to me please explain this line of thought, this since I thought healers were in the party to you know heal people not leech free merits and semi-afk. . .