Your view on a taru tank

[Hogie]

You're a fucking moron.

BLM dd >>>>>>>>>> Melee

We chain nuke with gjallarhorn in every PT and COR to achieve fast kill.

Seems like it's YOU that's delusioned.

Only time our BLM's lose out in parse is to Demetrios's Excal.
We are VERY VERY anal about parsing, trust me.. we parse every fight we do.

Do you guys even use BLM for Khim and Cerb? (sorry off topic i guess)

[Max™]

I wouldn't want to do all of my actions in the same visible set of gear.

Mhead/af+1 feet for Ichi, turban is a huge haste/effort payout, especially for us lol-swiftbelters, so I'd want that in my Ni, Hate mask/body/legs/feet for Flash/JA's, Are's for idle, MDB/Resist pieces as appropriate, Surcoat for cover/hate, AF2/+1 hands for shield bash, C3/C4 cheat macros are a good deal easier to accomplish with visible swaps, though they are far from required, but I'd still want hate gear in them if it wasn't an HP slot.

I find it fun though, squeezing as much as I can out of the gear I have, you'd think if you were so anal about parsing, you'd want to eke out every last percent of effectiveness you possibly could... and for all the various things a Pld does, maintaining one set of visible gear because your healers are lazy sounds kinda lame.

I mean, what else does it amount too, especially with <stpt> and <stal> around for those without blinkmenot?

[[Cookies]]

You're a 2 month old af pld who's barely tanked any hnm's. What are you spamming atonement on?

I've tanked plenty of HNMs, what exactly is your point? Just because I haven't played PLD for 4 years (Atonement hasn't even been out that fucking long) I'm not allowed my own opinion?

[Day]

I've tanked plenty of HNMs, what exactly is your point? Just because I haven't played PLD for 4 years (Atonement hasn't even been out that fucking long) I'm not allowed my own opinion?

That's pretty much the case it would seem..

[Hogie]

I've tanked plenty of HNMs, what exactly is your point? Just because I haven't played PLD for 4 years (Atonement hasn't even been out that fucking long) I'm not allowed my own opinion?

I have never tanked on PLD ever, only RDM so i guess that means i have no idea what im talking about either lol.

[Tsuko_Asura]

You're a 2 month old af pld who's barely tanked any hnm's. What are you spamming atonement on?

Kinda' unrelated to the actual topic(what isn't, really), but based on a comment you left me a few days ago, I think we're both pretty understanding of the fact that the amount of time you've been tanking for(as well as gear one doesn't know how to use) doesn't mean all that much in the grand scheme of things. You can learn the ropes in all of a day. You either understand how to keep hate and keep your damage intake as minimal as possible, or you don't.

Practice will only get you so far when you're practicing incorrectly.

[Meat]

I've tanked plenty of HNMs, what exactly is your point? Just because I haven't played PLD for 4 years (Atonement hasn't even been out that fucking long) I'm not allowed my own opinion?

You've also had atonement for 6 days, you're in no position to be making comments on Asuran plds. Also bullshit on tanking plenty of hnms; you were in chroma for 2 weeks and at best tanked a faf or a ixion

[Tsuko_Asura]

You actually joined 24/7?

Wow.

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You've also had atonement for 6 days, you're in no position to be making comments on Asuran plds. Also bullshit on tanking plenty of hnms; you were in chroma for 2 weeks and at best tanked a faf or a ixion

Considering I was a full member and their trial period is at least a month, your talking shit. Anyways, I wasn't saying any of Asura's PLDs are bad, just that I haven't seen any others idle in DD gear (Homam Corazza, ACC rings, etc.).

Obviously I haven't seen every single PLD on Asura tank every single HNM i'm just commenting on what I have seen.

You actually joined 24/7?

Wow.

You already knew that with your lie about already having killed Gurfurlur. The MPK threats from Demonhunter were pretty funny really.

[Neosutra]

@ Wopa:

Keeping hate versus a blm on Tiamat means dick. And let's just assume you do "keep hate fine". Why the fuck wouldn't you want to keep hate better?

Like I said before:

Id hate to think I had nothing to learn as a pld and couldnt get any better, like you apparently do with your "9 months of having pld 75". And even more, if I knew better ways to boost emnity generation, reduce damage taken, and lower recast, Id be pretty bad if I spit on them out of some archaic sense of stubborness.

But I guess you're as good as it gets, I mean, you hold hate from blms on tiamat sometimes.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I didn't lie about anything. I logged on at 6pm to a linkshell message that said Gurfurlur at 12pm. I assumed we had killed it, and wanted to save you a trip there. Just as well, I'm not to be held responsible for anything that I don't say.

Also, you may want to understand my reference before assuming I'm talking about you. Protip: The person in question is in my linkshell.

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Also, you may want to understand my reference before assuming I'm talking about you. Protip: The person in question is in my linkshell.

Already edited, misread your post.

Keeping hate versus a blm on Tiamat means dick. And let's just assume you do "keep hate fine". Why the fuck wouldn't you want to keep hate better?

People are lazy.

[Hogie]

@ Wopa:

Keeping hate versus a blm on Tiamat means dick. And let's just assume you do "keep hate fine". Why the fuck wouldn't you want to keep hate better?

Like I said before:

Id hate to think I had nothing to learn as a pld and couldnt get any better, like you apparently do with your "9 months of having pld 75". And even more, if I knew better ways to boost emnity generation, reduce damage taken, and lower recast, Id be pretty bad if I spit on them out of some archaic sense of stubborness.

But I guess you're as good as it gets, I mean, you hold hate from blms on tiamat sometimes.

Im not saying holding hate on Tia vs BLM's is a easy task or hard task, but honestly do you fight with just BLM's nuking full out killing Tia in 20min? Because i pull hate on Tia all the time on my BLM and it is by no means as good as a lot of other peoples. Majority of the main tanks in my linkshell are as good as they get and they still lose hate in a 40min fight, i couldnt imagine keeping hate in a 20 min fight.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Shame you didn't edit the part that mattered. You know damn well that I'm a pretty intelligent human being. Did you honestly think I believed that by saying something that absolutely nobody you were with(I had no idea you were in 24/7) would check to see if he was up regardless? I was trying to be courteous and save you a trip to Halvung, but I'm thrilled to see that you think I give a damn about a lame ass pseudo-HNM that doesn't benefit me in the least enough to lie about it, so that the 'maybe' twelve people who were actually online could go in for a gank.

People are paranoid as fuck, I swear to god.

[kandiekane]

Sorry, but most of the people here saying blinking for pld is a must are . . . idiots!

First of all, with proper support, lets see the pro's and con's for blinking:

Pro:
1. Shave off maybe 1-2 seconds at most for utsusemi.

Con:
1. Fuck up timing on your own shadow casting since you blink away and commands don't properly execute (from personal experience).
2. Annoy people who dislike BlinkMeNot because it is bugged and makes everyone wear weird shit.
3. Force yourself to use BlinkMeNot so you don't know what your currently wearing after you blinked a billion times.
4. Force mages to use <stpt> and <stal> so now they cannot target anyone outside of the alliance. (not good in dynamis/einharjar).
5. Since enmity is capped in a few minutes of tanking, all blinking for enmity is unnecessary because your enmity is already capped!

You see, excessive blinking is for idiots. Changing gears for 4-5 minute JA's and ichi is all a good pld needs. Invisible Cure 3/4 cheat and a static idle/tanking gear set makes everyone's life easier and makes you look less like an idiot blinking like a Christmas tree.

The comparison made about pld blinking vs melee changing gears for WS is retarded. All pld's blink for JA's for extra enmity. Once your capped out, there's no need to blink twice for every action you do, because it's not necessary. Sure blinking will give you a bit more enmity from flash and cure, but your capped out anyways so it's not doing you any good!

I have many gear sets macro'd so i can manually choose and tweek my gears during a fight. Having every action blink to a gear set, and the blink back to idle, is NOOB. You have no control of your gear and most likely have to push a million buttons when your kiting since every action will swap you out of wlegs unless you have a million macro sets for each scenario.

[[Cookies]]

Sorry, but most of the people here saying blinking for pld is a must are . . . idiots!

First of all, with proper support, lets see the pro's and con's for blinking:

Pro:
1. Shave off maybe 1-2 seconds at most for utsusemi.

Con:
1. Fuck up timing on your own shadow casting since you blink away and commands don't properly execute (from personal experience).
2. Annoy people who dislike BlinkMeNot because it is bugged and makes everyone wear weird shit.
3. Force yourself to use BlinkMeNot so you don't know what your currently wearing after you blinked a billion times.
4. Force mages to use <stpt> and <stal> so now they cannot target anyone outside of the alliance. (not good in dynamis/einharjar).
5. Since enmity is capped in a few minutes of tanking, all blinking for enmity is unnecessary because your enmity is already capped!

You see, excessive blinking is for idiots. Changing gears for 4-5 minute JA's and ichi is all a good pld needs. Invisible Cure 3/4 cheat and a static idle/tanking gear set makes everyone's life easier and makes you look less like an idiot blinking like a Christmas tree.

The comparison made about pld blinking vs melee changing gears for WS is retarded. All pld's blink for JA's for extra enmity. Once your capped out, there's no need to blink twice for every action you do, because it's not necessary.

I have many gear sets macro'd so i can manually choose and tweek my gears during a fight. Having every action blink to a gear set, and the blink back to idle, is NOOB. You have no control of your gear and most likely have to push a million buttons when your kiting. Since every action will swap you out of wlegs. Unless you have a million macro sets for each scenario.

Or you could stop being a complete and utter fucking retard and use SpellCast OR Windower macros. If you have access to them use them damn it.

[kandiekane]

Or you could stop being a complete and utter fucking retard and use SpellCast OR Windower macros. If you have access to them use them damn it.

I'm sorry, using spellcast will stop you from blinking? Will make the unnecessary blinking go away? Will make the unnecessary enmity mean something?

Spellcast will know when you're kiting? Know when you need more enmity? Know when you need more haste?

I don't think so.

[Day]

We've already had the blinking thread.

[[Cookies]]

Spellcast will know when you're kiting?

In a way, yes.

[kandiekane]

Oh cookie, does your Windower flash macro look something like this? and does it make you blink twice?

/console exec Flash.txt
/ma Flash <stnpc>
/wait 3
/console exec Idle.txt

If so, and every other macro you have is the same, then just save yourself the trouble and uninstall the game or play a melee job where swapping gears for WS really does matter since there is no hard cap on damage like there is on enmity.

Or you can change your macro's around to work with an idle set and swap only non blinkable equipment for enmity/hp/haste/shield/mdb/etc...

Here's mine if you are too dumb to figure one out:

haut/aegis/lamia +1/X
Bmask/parade/ethereal/loq
ares/homam/sattva/shadow
shadow/v belt/homam/af+1

There's +2 mp per tick, +12 shield, 10% chance to negate physical damage, 10% chance to negate magic damage, good mp and hp, some accuracy, and some enmity.

You can swap out all non blinkable gear for an extra +16 enmity, or an extra 20 shield skill, or an extra 300 hp.

12% haste is enough to tank anything with haste spell, unless you suck.