NFL week 16...And we still have no Superbowl favorite.

[Resin]

Hey, easy, I just said the O-line looks good. How much pressure has Delhomme gotten? I completely agree that that catch was pure luck--should have been a pick for sure.

[Weltall]

What is hilarious is the Giants will probably lose 4 in a row going into the playoffs....talk about epic.

[Koyuki]

How fucking lucky are the panthers, seriously. Their defense has been this close to letting the giants running backs free but have magically gotten a hand on the ankle at the last second. That last pass should have been intercepted but it magically falls into the recievers hands. Sorry Panther front-runners, lucky != good.

Also, anyone who calls the giants overrated are retarded. Look at the strength of schedule, and what they've done to this point.

Aaaaand that makes it 3 games in a row the refs refuse to call an obvious pass interference on Hixon. What, do you have to be a veteran to get a call for you now?

Magically? Yea I thought I saw some faggot of a fairy put the Panthers hand on Jacobs or Wards ankles.

As a matter a fact that fairy is all over the place. They should just put him as the 12th man!

[Omnipotent]

Also, anyone who calls the giants overrated are retarded. Look at the strength of schedule, and what they've done to this point.

Giants definetaly are, giants are one of the few teams who actually has almost 100% of their starters who aren't injured in the game. Look at the Patriots, in playoff contention with almost 50% of their starters out.

[Cephius]

Magically? Yea I thought I saw some faggot of a fairy put the Panthers hand on Jacobs or Wards ankles.

As a matter a fact that fairy is all over the place. They should just put him as the 12th man!

I'm frustrated with our (lack of) defense, I didn't mean magically literally, you twit.

[Cephius]

Giants definetaly are, giants are one of the few teams who actually has almost 100% of their starters who aren't injured in the game. Look at the Patriots, in playoff contention with almost 50% of their starters out.

Huh?

Last time I checked, your two best players on both sides of the ball (Osi and Plaxico) count. They've had people missing like everyone else. You can't use injuries as an excuse either way.

[Omnipotent]

Huh?

Last time I checked, your two best players on both sides of the ball (Osi and Plaxico) count. They've had people missing like everyone else. You can't use injuries as an excuse either way.

Talking about injuries on the field, Plaxico is a fucking joke.

[Akiyama]

Yeah.. I'll give you missing Osi and Brandon Jacobs for a bit before this game, but Plax doesn't count. He was a dipshit all by himself.

[Weltall]

Talking about injuries on the field, Plaxico is a fucking joke.

I like you...you can see the light without the clouded bullshit that ESPN puts into most people's head. The Giants are going to get trounced early in the playoffs.

If they somehow make it to the SB, any AFC team (Colts, Ravans, Titans, Steelers, Pats) are going to beat the shit out of them.

[Cephius]

I know he's an idiot, no one would deny that. But I was responding to the quote that the giants have had 100% of their starters and that's why they're overrated. It completely ignores that they lost their #1 defensive player for the year in the preseason, and then lost their number 1 receiver in the middle of the season. How good would the Panthers be without Peppers or Steve Smith? My point was, you can't just ignore losses for one team and count them for another when judging how good a team is.

[Omnipotent]

I like you...you can see the light without the clouded bullshit that ESPN puts into most people's head. The Giants are going to get trounced early in the playoffs.

If they somehow make it to the SB, any AFC team (Colts, Ravans, Titans, Steelers, Pats) are going to beat the shit out of them.

a/s/l?

[Weltall]

Plaxico had a good week 1, and other than that he sucked total dick all year. I know because he rode my fantasy bench forever, and I traded for him after week 1 .... fuck.

[Omnipotent]

I know he's an idiot, no one would deny that. But I was responding to the quote that the giants have had 100% of their starters and that's why they're overrated. It completely ignores that they lost their #1 defensive player for the year in the preseason, and then lost their number 1 receiver in the middle of the season. How good would the Panthers be without Peppers or Steve Smith? My point was, you can't just ignore losses for one team and count them for another when judging how good a team is.

Plaxico definetaly isn't their #1 receiver, he may be considered that because of his game changing catch at the SB last year, but they definetaly don't need him. They have plenty of other players to fill his spot. And in all honesty, you lost your #1 Defensive player sure, but we lost our #1 Defensive(harrison, maybe bruschi now wahhhh), and our top 2 Offensive, not to mention the other players in between. Patriots have come back and done what no one thought they could do, atm Patriots are looking forward to a 11-5 no playoff contention because MIA is all of a sudden good.

[Kyo]

Im not defending anyone but just should point out that panthers won their first two games w/o smith.

[Akiyama]

Well.. they do technically have most of their starters. Plax lost his starting job when he went all gangsta on himself.

Also.. the Panthers won their first two games where Steve Smith sat, by the way. Either way, I'm not saying the G-Men will get trounced.

Edit: Beaten.

Also, on the note of the Pats.. you lost Brady. That was hella bad, but who was the #2 guy you guys lost on the offensive side of the ball? Please don't tell me Maroney. That bastard has been shit. Trust me. My fantasy teams know.

[Cephius]

Plaxico had a good week 1, and other than that he sucked total dick all year. I know because he rode my fantasy bench forever, and I traded for him after week 1 .... fuck.

The game isn't all about fantasy stats. He draws double teams from every defense, which creates openings for other recivers. He had a ton of catches on play action. The last team to single cover him was the Packers with Al Harris, and Plaixco had 120+ yards in that game. He doesn't suck just because he didnt put up stats for your fantasy team.

And we know ESPN is terrible, but they've jumped off the Giants bandwagon just like everyone else. No one thought they could win last year either, so its okay.

And the Giants have already played 2 of the teams you listed and beaten them both.

[Akiyama]

I think the Giants beat the Falcons, Cardinals, Cowboys, and Vikings/Bears in the playoffs. So basically, barring this game, I think the Giants could beat the other playoff teams, lol.

[Cephius]

Plaxico definetaly isn't their #1 receiver, he may be considered that because of his game changing catch at the SB last year, but they definetaly don't need him. They have plenty of other players to fill his spot. And in all honesty, you lost your #1 Defensive player sure, but we lost our #1 Defensive(harrison, maybe bruschi now wahhhh), and our top 2 Offensive, not to mention the other players in between. Patriots have come back and done what no one thought they could do, atm Patriots are looking forward to a 11-5 no playoff contention because MIA is all of a sudden good.

I agree what the Pats have done this year without Brady is amazing. I also think the Panthers are better than most people think. But I don't think its fair to say the Giants are overrated because they've stayed (relatively) healthy.

I disagree that Plaxico isnt the number 1 receiver. I know the numbers aren't there, but like I said in an earlier post he always draws double teams that open things up for other guys. And if he's not the #1, who is? There really isn't anyone..

[Weltall]

Maroney....lol.... I really hope that wasn't the # 2 guy you were talking about. He is the biggest pussy in the league at the RB position.

[Akiyama]

Agreed with Weltall. Brady was huuuge. He could be considered the #1-4 offensive threat with Moss being right behind, but Maroney as a #2 offensive threat = wtfholyshithysterical.