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  1. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niki View Post
    Nobody is talking down the big accomplishment of Jackyl. People are just disappointed of the weapon. If I had PLD a Burtang would still be a dream item for me.
    People are only disappointed in the weapons because they set themselves up for it. They already assumed that they were more overpowered than the RoZ weapons when SE said that they wouldn't be. You can technically get the Mythics for free if you spent 9948579345 years doing Salvage getting 30k drites whereas you would need gil regardless for Dynamis. SE isn't asking anyone to drop 150 mill on 30k alexandrites. For the effort involved they are indeed weaker than I had initially expected but I'm not at all disappointed for the benefits that most of the weapons give.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    it is infact easier to obtain. only took this period compared to first NA relic? ^^;
    How long do you think the first NA relic would have taken if server transfers were possible? (Not to mention that faster doesn't mean easier)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    it is infact easier to obtain. only took this period compared to first NA relic? ^^;
    While I kind of agree with the trend of people saying it's easier to acquire these over older relics, part of me doesn't. So much has changed in the game that it's hard to compare FFXI+ZM to FFXI+ZM+CoP+AU. I mean you have people clearing out currency and finishing relic weapons in a span of 2months now. Along with all the changes to the game also comes the fact that the quest was spelled out a bit simpler than the Zilart Relics. It's not to say that the Zilart Relics weren't cryptic, but Dynamis in general was a new battlefield for awhile and it took a bit of a learning curve.

    It is most definitely easier to acquire than Zilart Relics when the Zilart Relics were released. However as far as monetary cost and effort I would say that Mythic Weapons, as of the current state of the game, are just as difficult as a Zilart Relic is now. If you've got the ability to raise funds for the currency, then it's really just a matter of which weapon you really want. I'm hoping someone eventually finishes the WHM Mythic because Augments Divine Seal still sounds pretty interesting to me if it doesn't suck. >_<;

  4. #244
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octavious View Post
    I'm hoping someone eventually finishes the WHM Mythic because Augments Divine Seal still sounds pretty interesting to me if it doesn't suck. >_<;
    Many weapons are different from Burtgang, like WHM/BRD/COR in that there's not really anything comparable even with without taking the aftermath into consideration. If I was a WHM main and had the access/gil to do Yagrush, perma-Divine Veil is pretty game-changing, I would sure as hell go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liseth View Post
    People are only disappointed in the weapons because they set themselves up for it. They already assumed that they were more overpowered than the RoZ weapons when SE said that they wouldn't be. You can technically get the Mythics for free if you spent 9948579345 years doing Salvage getting 30k drites whereas you would need gil regardless for Dynamis. SE isn't asking anyone to drop 150 mill on 30k alexandrites. For the effort involved they are indeed weaker than I had initially expected but I'm not at all disappointed for the benefits that most of the weapons give.
    Can people stop saying we "set ourselves up for dissapointment". No one here thought these would be brokenly awesome (at least most didnt). We did however expect the weapons do to what they fucking said they would do in the description.

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    Of course, the great irony is that SE probably didn't intend for us to read the descriptions before we got the weapons

  7. #247
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    Can people stop saying we "set ourselves up for dissapointment". No one here thought these would be brokenly awesome (at least most didnt). We did however expect the weapons do to what they fucking said they would do in the description.
    What were they supposed to do exactly? The description of of what they do is in plain English.

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    I think I'm disappointed the most because the quest builds these weapons up as if they can destroy the fucking world. How are you supposed to be unchecked power incarnate if you have to choose between Acc/Atk/DA? Either I was lied to, or the people in the Imperial Palace are a bunch of wimps.

  9. #249
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    Many weapons are different from Burtgang, like WHM/BRD/COR in that there's not really anything comparable even with without taking the aftermath into consideration. If I was a WHM main and had the access/gil to do Yagrush, perma-Divine Veil is pretty game-changing, I would sure as hell go for it.
    If it truly is perma Divine Veil, then hell yes, I want it. Long timer on Erase sucks when I've got a ton of melee to take care of and mobs keep spamming nasty shit.

    If it's not, though, meh, don't need it.

    I'll be waiting for tests on it, and if it indeed does have Divine Veil full time like I'm hoping, I'll start working on it for real. Hopes ... not up. lol.

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    Time to cancel my Ryunohige upgrade and switch to a Nirvana upgrade...

    bye bye 3600 alexandrites...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miraun View Post
    Time to cancel my Ryunohige upgrade and switch to a Nirvana upgrade...

    bye bye 3500 alexandrites...
    Did you turn them in? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyramion View Post
    Did you turn them in? lol
    Ran out of space between my main and my mule, so yes, I turned them in.

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    We can all agree that the wording on Aftermath is not what we expected, however, technically it somewhat does what it says:

    Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk.
    Occasionally attacks twice


    Looking at it now I always considered the forward slash to mean "or" such as when writing a letter: "Dear Sir/Madam". If this was SE's intentions then as stated earlier it should've read

    Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk./Occasionally attacks twice

    Since it can't fit
    Aftermath: Increases Acc/Atk./
    Occasionally Attacks twice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octavious View Post
    While I kind of agree with the trend of people saying it's easier to acquire these over older relics, part of me doesn't. So much has changed in the game that it's hard to compare FFXI+ZM to FFXI+ZM+CoP+AU. I mean you have people clearing out currency and finishing relic weapons in a span of 2months now. Along with all the changes to the game also comes the fact that the quest was spelled out a bit simpler than the Zilart Relics. It's not to say that the Zilart Relics weren't cryptic, but Dynamis in general was a new battlefield for awhile and it took a bit of a learning curve.

    It is most definitely easier to acquire than Zilart Relics when the Zilart Relics were released. However as far as monetary cost and effort I would say that Mythic Weapons, as of the current state of the game, are just as difficult as a Zilart Relic is now. If you've got the ability to raise funds for the currency, then it's really just a matter of which weapon you really want. I'm hoping someone eventually finishes the WHM Mythic because Augments Divine Seal still sounds pretty interesting to me if it doesn't suck. >_<;
    Just based on the amount of overall time that you need to spend on relics is far shorter. Gil wise it's not much a difference either most servers are about 4-5k for 30k alexs and at the most you're probably paying 1 mil per 100 piece of dynamis currency needing just around 180?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    Pretty sure I haven't really complained about anything but the wording, I think that's a valid complaint.
    I'd rather people raise a stink about this on forums (since SE supposedly watches them) so that they hopefully don't do this again on such a large scale than just sit back and take it in the ass.

    It would be nice to have the other effects, and I'm disappointed about them not being there but I'm not really complaining about that.
    Fair enough. I have no problems with that. I wish they had more to them too. Still think that most are pretty good, but effort vs. reward? To each their own.

    Crying like mommy took your toys though? Come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miraun View Post
    Ran out of space between my main and my mule, so yes, I turned them in.
    Shoulda got your mule moglocker Little work and some runaround

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miraun View Post
    They whine on PvP servers about people camping corpses, or drops not being worthwhile compared to other shit, but I've never seen a bitching post saying that weapons / items don't do what they say they do. If this is the case, it's generally fixed quickly.
    Have you ever been to their main server the day after a patch announcement that changes any of the abilities or spells in the game at all? It's not about glitches, this is about player reaction.

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    I'm still planning on going for vjra. Most of the people complaining are players wouldn't even come close to attempting a relic let alone a mythic.

    Disappointed but still going for the craziness.

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    First off, congratulations Jackyl on a monumental and historical achievement in the world of FFXI.

    Second, I wonder if Jackyl would be willing to call a GM on her mythic, just to report a bug that the weapon's behavior is not matching the description. I'd be very curious to see the result of that conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TummieGaruda View Post
    We can all agree that the wording on Aftermath is not what we expected, however, technically it somewhat does what it says:

    Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk.
    Occasionally attacks twice


    Looking at it now I always considered the forward slash to mean "or" such as when writing a letter: "Dear Sir/Madam". If this was SE's intentions then as stated earlier it should've read

    Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk./Occasionally attacks twice

    Since it can't fit
    Aftermath: Increases Acc/Atk./
    Occasionally Attacks twice
    Nice ad hoc explanation. From now on lets not get hyped up about gear because SE may have forgotten to put a / where needed.

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