Mythic Weapon Information (Page1 - hot new info!)

[ringthree]

People aren't complaining that the sword doesn't do what they want, they're complaining that it doesn't do what it says while being such a pain in the ass to get. If the item text read the way it really works, I doubt many people would have thought them worth putting in the time or effort to get as opposed to a RoZ relic, except those who would want a BLU/PUP/COR/SCH/DNC weapon.

I know we all came to expect it, but how broken would these be if they got all the bonuses at 100TP? Consider that for a moment and then reconsider the communities initial impressions of the weapon.

[Kipling]

First off, congratulations Jackyl on a monumental and historical achievement in the world of FFXI.

Second, I wonder if Jackyl would be willing to call a GM on her mythic, just to report a bug that the weapon's behavior is not matching the description. I'd be very curious to see the result of that conversation.

"Working as intended."

[Miraun]

Have you ever been to their main server the day after a patch announcement that changes any of the abilities or spells in the game at all? It's not about glitches, this is about player reaction.

If this is what you think, then this is the fundamental difference between your opinion and everyone else's on this thread. It's NEVER been about reaction to a change, it's about proper communication of the changes and the attributes of something.

Yes, people in other MMOs may bitch and moan about any changes to their classes that occur as a result of the patch, but I have never known Blizzard to be releasing erroneous/cryptic information along with their patches that would ever mislead the player base as to the attributes of an item / ability. It's about communication, NOT about change.

[Cairthenn]

We can all agree that the wording on Aftermath is not what we expected, however, technically it somewhat does what it says:

Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk.
Occasionally attacks twice


Looking at it now I always considered the forward slash to mean "or" such as when writing a letter: "Dear Sir/Madam". If this was SE's intentions then as stated earlier it should've read

Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk./Occasionally attacks twice

Since it can't fit
Aftermath: Increases Acc/Atk./
Occasionally Attacks twice

Thinking of it that way, Increases Acc./Increases Atk./Ocassionally attacks twice would have been much better wording.

[Seraph]

"Working as intended."

"You aren't supposed to have these yet. You must be cheating. Your account will now be indefinitely suspended. We apologize for the inconvenience. Have a nice day."

[Kipling]

"You aren't supposed to have these yet. You must be cheating. Your account will now be indefinitely suspended. We apologize for the inconvenience. Have a nice day."

I chuckled, then I got sad.

[Acturus]

Nice ad hoc explanation. From now on lets not get hyped up about gear because SE may have forgotten to put a / where needed.

The only difference between this item and a Melee Crown or Marduk's Shalwar is the scale of effort involved in obtaining it.

Mistakes happen on gear descriptions, and if this is the case here SE has an easy scapegoat to use. It's not fair or fun or anything, but it gives them an out that everyone here knows they will take.

[[Cookies]]

Second, I wonder if Jackyl would be willing to call a GM on her mythic, just to report a bug that the weapon's behavior is not matching the description. I'd be very curious to see the result of that conversation.

Isn't Jackyl a guy?

[Meat]

How long do you think the first NA relic would have taken if server transfers were possible? (Not to mention that faster doesn't mean easier)

My group's upgrader just finished the alex portion of the quest(all that's left is a Sarameya hide) without transferring a single mule. 24\7 shouting and a little duping goes a long way it seems

[ronin sparthos]

So.....why arent the newer jobs on Relic Weapons again?

[Lyramion]

Because their jobs equipment doesnt fit into dynamis..... wait.. what?

[Octavious]

Isn't Jackyl a guy?

Nonsense, a players in-game sex is always equivilant to his/her real-life sex.

[Miraun]

Nonsense, a players in-game sex is always equivilant to his/her real-life sex.

Especially Mithras

[ringthree]

While I kind of agree with the trend of people saying it's easier to acquire these over older relics, part of me doesn't. So much has changed in the game that it's hard to compare FFXI+ZM to FFXI+ZM+CoP+AU. I mean you have people clearing out currency and finishing relic weapons in a span of 2months now. Along with all the changes to the game also comes the fact that the quest was spelled out a bit simpler than the Zilart Relics. It's not to say that the Zilart Relics weren't cryptic, but Dynamis in general was a new battlefield for awhile and it took a bit of a learning curve.

It is most definitely easier to acquire than Zilart Relics when the Zilart Relics were released. However as far as monetary cost and effort I would say that Mythic Weapons, as of the current state of the game, are just as difficult as a Zilart Relic is now. If you've got the ability to raise funds for the currency, then it's really just a matter of which weapon you really want. I'm hoping someone eventually finishes the WHM Mythic because Augments Divine Seal still sounds pretty interesting to me if it doesn't suck. >_<;

I view it as easier and harder. If you are an end-game player then you will be doing the requirements for the Mythics anyway. And if you have the cash of some of the people that acquire relics for level 1 jobs then the real bottleneck is finding the Alex not the cost. So, if you have the means the only really annoying part is the ZNM drops and the killing the kings, but you only have to do that once.

[ringthree]

Can people stop saying we "set ourselves up for dissapointment". No one here thought these would be brokenly awesome (at least most didnt). We did however expect the weapons do to what they fucking said they would do in the description.

If they did what was thought to be on the description they would be broken, which is the point.

[Octavious]

I view it as easier and harder. If you are an end-game player then you will be doing the requirements for the Mythics anyway. And if you have the cash of some of the people that acquire relics for level 1 jobs then the real bottleneck is finding the Alex not the cost. So, if you have the means the only really annoying part is the ZNM drops and the killing the kings, but you only have to do that once.

Yea, that was kind of my point too. It's about the same difficulty but in a different way. It seems it just depends on what events you do more,Dynamis or Einherjar or Salvage. It's just disappointing that some of the Mythics have lost a little flare due to the recent developments. Although I would love cheap alexandrites, could maybe finish one of the mage ones someday (if they're good. >_> screw being a pioneer and being disappointed at the end).

[ringthree]

Random thought that doesn't deal with the bitching. Has there been any hidden effect noticed? Thinking along the lines of the extra damage procs on the relics.

[Seraph]

Random thought that doesn't deal with the bitching. Has there been any hidden effect noticed? Thinking along the lines of the extra damage procs on the relics.

Crushing despair, Lack of funds, Sleep deprivation.

But honestly, I have no idea. It's possible, but I'm not holding out much hope.

[Alistaire]

If you are an end-game player then you will be doing the requirements for the Mythics anyway.

Not true for TOAU beastmen kings, not true for redoing the 90% of assaults that suck in terms of difficulty/reward ratios/setups needed, not true for tossing a PW pop (not that most people would pop PW right now but you certainly would hold a pop set in hopes of it being figured out), and definitely not true for alexandrites...at least in any fashion that would take less than a full year.

So what's left? Odin and Salvage boss titles? ...

[Miraun]

If I'm doing assault reclears... and I give up the weapon I'm currently upgrading... can I keep my assault books to continue working on them and turn them in for the next weapon?