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  1. #321
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miraun View Post
    From what was written, the "Occasionally double attacks" is present ONLY with a 300% Aftermath. When you have the double attack aftermath, you do not obtain the ATT or ACC Aftermaths. There is no base double attack, acc, or ATT boost.
    thanks for the quick answer, settled a debate i was having with a lsmate!

  2. #322
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubbers View Post
    If you see any obviously better SMN melee choices let me know.
    I melee in this: Carbuncle's Pole - Bahamut - FFXIAH.com

    Duoing with friends I often pull hate off them since the proc is very high, and normally will almost double my damage output.

    Granted I have to keep carbuncle out, but it's not so bad.

    (I'm not meleeing in merit parties.... yet. I'm just contributing to the SMN DD theory ^^)

  3. #323
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    Carby's pole has been discussed on my failwiki thread on melee SMNs...
    FFXIclopedia • View topic - Laugh it up: Melee SMN build

    Move any further discussion of melee SMN over to those forums... even if they are fail. Lets migrate back onto the mythic weapons, and how we're all pissed that SE doesn't communicate shit to players regarding what their ambiguous item and weapon properties actually mean.

  4. #324
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    Finished the quest. I forgot that I had to take off weapon/armor before clicking the palace for certain cutscenes. Got the CS at the palace then went to Abquhbah for the final cutscene that finished the quest and got this:
    http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4827/loljx7.jpg

    ... lol.

  5. #325
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    Wow.

  6. #326
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    Amazing.

  7. #327
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    Jesus Titty Sucking Christ!!!! 3 silver pieces??!!!

  8. #328
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    One... Two... Three... !

    Three slaps to the face!

  9. #329
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melios View Post
    And the Tupsimati/Laevateinn don't have similar hidden effects?
    BLM Mythic was tested semi-thoroughly at fanfest. No hidden damage bonus. It's just the +20MAB. ES will add an additional ~10-12 MAB on the next nuke.

    It comes to roughly a -4% damage decrease switching from HQ staves to Laevateinn in additional to a sizable MACC loss. When using ES, the next nuke using Laevateinn will do about 3% more damage than a normal nuke using HQ staves.

    Even if you were to use the Laevateinn aftermath fulltime, since you cannot seem to get both MACC and MAB in the same aftermath, you will always see a sizable loss in either MACC or damage compared to HQ staves. This makes Laevateinn truly inferior to HQ staves even if you were meleeing full time maintaining whichever aftermath effect you wanted at all times. The only optimal situation to use Laevateinn is to nuke with it on ES for a ~3% damage increase over HQ staves.

  10. #330
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    Check ur crown and see if something happens

  11. #331
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    3 Imperial silver pieces was photoshopped, right?

    lol...

  12. #332
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    at least someone at SE has a sense of humour ;p

  13. #333
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    "Abquhbah: You've got to be kidding..."

    Took the words right out of everyone's mouth.

  14. #334
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackyl View Post
    Finished the quest. I forgot that I had to take off weapon/armor before clicking the palace for certain cutscenes. Got the CS at the palace then went to Abquhbah for the final cutscene that finished the quest and got this:
    http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4827/loljx7.jpg

    ... lol.
    Pwned.

  15. #335
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    Yeah, it sucks. It sucks a fat nut.

    But you know what? Mad props to SE. At least they kept her in character, what else would you expect!? This made me laugh my ass off.

    I think SE has taught us all a lesson about completionism. Time to go get some fresh air.

  16. #336
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    Wow...SE really loves to insult their players...

    Work vs. Reward...is it really that hard of a concept to understand?

  17. #337
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    I TAKE BACK EVERYTHING I SAID ABOUT MYTHIC WEAPONS. 3 SILVERPIECES MAKES THE ENTIRE 120M WORTH OF ALEXANDRITES WORTH IT.

    FUCKING AWESOME

  18. #338
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeko View Post
    BLM Mythic was tested semi-thoroughly at fanfest. No hidden damage bonus. It's just the +20MAB. ES will add an additional ~10-12 MAB on the next nuke.

    It comes to roughly a -4% damage decrease switching from HQ staves to Laevateinn in additional to a sizable MACC loss. When using ES, the next nuke using Laevateinn will do about 3% more damage than a normal nuke using HQ staves.

    Even if you were to use the Laevateinn aftermath fulltime, since you cannot seem to get both MACC and MAB in the same aftermath, you will always see a sizable loss in either MACC or damage compared to HQ staves. This makes Laevateinn truly inferior to HQ staves even if you were meleeing full time maintaining whichever aftermath effect you wanted at all times. The only optimal situation to use Laevateinn is to nuke with it on ES for a ~3% damage increase over HQ staves.
    Did anyone bring this problem with Square Enix yet?

  19. #339
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyln View Post
    Wow...SE really loves to insult their players...

    Work vs. Reward...is it really that hard of a concept to understand?
    ..Lets forget you get a new weapon..even if the description is misleading <.<

  20. #340
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    Fucking amazing.

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