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  1. #461
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    No, all stats except damage and delay are lost when placed off hand (for mythic and relic).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    The fact that the people's bitching about mythic testing results was valid in a MTYHIC TESTING RESULTS thread and other people that didnt want to hear it needed to shut the fuck up already? Ringthree and others have done nothing but insult people about unrealistic expectations and bitch about how they hate bitching. You chime in with a post insulting me and pointing out that i was "bitching about their bitching about our bitching", and then jump on the bandwagon of people that "didnt overestimate" their performance. You get a life. You added to the shit pool, you were called on it. I added the call on your playstyle as a counter to your own insult. Had you not added that, I would have left you alone. You dont get a free ride here.

    Get off your high horse. You act like your shit doesnt stink. You have half decent gear and you dont even use it properly. You then make a blog where you do mediocre achievements and go on about cureswaps like it's something new or you invented it or something equally laughable. You're a rdm that happened to play pld and realize that you can equip mnd/enhancing magic and make pld/rdm stronger, no shit. You have alot to learn and your laziness/excuses keep running out. Im happy to let you think/play the way you want, but dont fucking come into a thread and insult me w/o expecting me to point out your own bullshit.
    Neo, I don't have I problem with your disappointment. It's just that the level of disgust doesn't equal the level of disappointment. Like I said, maybe it's just your flair for the extravagant, and perhaps it is at least understandable even if it I don't think it's justified.

    At least we were keeping the insults on topic, you are now bashing on Maxx just because he thinks you are complaining too much (you are). No one is bashing on you as a player, or your gear or whatever. They are just saying you are crying too much.

    And yes, my blog is dedicated to mediocre achievements, repetition of other people's good ideas, and guides to help people get from suck to mediocre. That's just to head you off at the pass.

    I figured you would take it all in stride considering your determination in the face of frustration. Like I said, there is obvious disappointment here, but SE didn't rape your mom, they just made a piece of gear that isn't as great as you had hoped.

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    Tummie clarified it for me. I shouldn't have said "TP Bonus."

    EDIT: Also I am laughing so hard at people who are upset over the coinage reward. I mean I don't think there is anyone who doesn't want these weapons to be better, but I love imperial coins trolling the fuck out of all you. Naja is a saint.

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    Wasnt bashing your blog, was bashing Merona's, which I know isnt relevant to the topic but I just got tired of her/him jumping in the last few threads and tossing insults and expecting no rebuttle.

    As for SE raping my mother, how do you know Burtgang wasnt my mother?!

    edit: To BRP - Jackyl posted originally about attack being around 20-50, so one could guess that both acc and attack is effected by TP, while DA is static % (since you cant go above 300tp).

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    Don't diss my blog man or my achievements. You're a fucking asshole with nothing better to do than insult other people. You have no method of debate and are truly the one to act as if your shit doesn't stink.

    I came here to read a good thread and you pulled some insult out of leftfield that was completely uncalled for. Really, I dunno what to think of you anymore. You seem to think you're right about everything imaginable. It's fine to think that way, but please, do not try to convince other people that it is the truth. It's more laughable than anything I've ever posted. I, on the other hand, don't make posts to try and tell people "this is the way you have to do it or you are mediocre/suck/should quit the game. You're a sad individual with a big chip on his shoulders. Apparently anything I say or do really injures your pride as a person, a poster, and a Paladin. I do not try to incite drama in any way--anyone that knows me knows that isn't how I roll at all.

    Please dude, just get off these forums. It's really a horrible experience for many people to have you around. I am sure I am not the only person who feels this way. I will keep reporting your posts until either you are kicked or I am kicked for sending so many reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    Wasnt bashing your blog, was bashing Merona's, which I know isnt relevant to the topic but I just got tired of her/him jumping in the last few threads and tossing insults and expecting no rebuttle.

    As for SE raping my mother, how do you know Burtgang wasnt my mother?!
    I know you weren't bashing my blog, I was just joking myself because that is pretty much a discription of mine too. LOL

    If Burtgang was your mother, then ok, maybe SE did rape your mother. LOL I am not trying to insult you, well, anymore than just poking fun at you and I think you know that.

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    @Ringthree: Understandable lol. And yes Im getting tired of bitching on both sides too Q.Q

    @ Merona:

    Keep reporting my posts lol? Amazing.

    Im sorry, but dont you think it is equally offensive to have to read your bullshit /jabs in every thread as well? I gave my opinion in the gear swap thread and you argued just as much as me about the rights and wrongs about gear swaps. We ended that debate and settled it in PMs (regardless of who was right or wrong). You then continued to post about your disdain for my attitude in the salvage drop thread, and then here in the mythics thread.

    You are the one that just cant seem to handle other people's opinions. You come in here to let everyone know that you were one of those people with "realistic expectations", then point out my bitching. You could have stated your peice, hopped on the bandwagon of assholes complaining and left, but instead you added insult and added fuel to the fire. Yes, I am more agressive in my responses. Yes I have a lower bullshit meter and yes, when provoked I go for the throat. But the plain truth is I call people's bullshit no matter how thinly veiled.

    You are not above anyone here. You come to post your opinion/insult, and then dont expect to get it torn apart and thrown back at you by the people that you insulted. Get the fuck over yourself. At least I dont PM the mods everytime I lose an argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merona View Post
    Don't diss my blog man or my achievements. You're a fucking asshole with nothing better to do than insult other people. You have no method of debate and are truly the one to act as if your shit doesn't stink.

    I came here to read a good thread and you pulled some insult out of leftfield that was completely uncalled for. Really, I dunno what to think of you anymore. You seem to think you're right about everything imaginable. It's fine to think that way, but please, do not try to convince other people that it is the truth. It's more laughable than anything I've ever posted. I, on the other hand, don't make posts to try and tell people "this is the way you have to do it or you are mediocre/suck/should quit the game. You're a sad individual with a big chip on his shoulders. Apparently anything I say or do really injures your pride as a person, a poster, and a Paladin. I do not try to incite drama in any way--anyone that knows me knows that isn't how I roll at all.

    Please dude, just get off these forums. It's really a horrible experience for many people to have you around. I am sure I am not the only person who feels this way. I will keep reporting your posts until either you are kicked or I am kicked for sending so many reports.
    Ok, yeah, Neo is right, you do have a personal problem with him. Take your problems elsewhere. Anyone that gets that upset or defensive about their blog is taking themselves way too seriously.

    Neo may be emo, but you are just bitter.

    On-topic: Still nothing about any hidden effects? In my testing with Glanzfaust when I used a 300TP Ascetic's Fury I only noticed that I got 1 extra attack per round, and I never noticed a 4 punch round. I hope that it the one-handed weapons don't limit extra attacks to just one during a 300TP Aftermath. Jackyl have you done any dual-wield testing?

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    Need pointless bickering in the title for this thread too.

    Or hell maybe all of them.

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    RATE DOWNS FOR EVERYBODY! ESPECIALLY NEO OMG

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    Dont rate me down dude =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    Neo may be emo, but you are just bitter.
    Coming from YOU? Biggest crap you've shitted so far (and trust me, we all know how much shit you've said in your 1k+ posts)

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    At this point I find the drama more interesting than the lolmythics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    Irony? Still afraid to gear swap because your mages cant keep up Merona?
    If you cant hold hate without blinking like a casino in Vegas you fail on PLD. Sorry, there is nothing wrong with none-blinking PLDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niki View Post
    If you cant hold hate without blinking like a casino in Vegas you fail on PLD. Sorry, there is nothing wrong with none-blinking PLDs.
    It's not about holding hate, it's about optimizing your performance. Don't try and justify the laziness of non-blinking PLDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niki View Post
    If you cant hold hate without blinking like a casino in Vegas you fail on PLD. Sorry, there is nothing wrong with none-blinking PLDs.
    Nothing against you or your plds Niki, and I dont want to get into another blinking debate. But that is like saying "if you cant do enough damage as a melee w/o using WS swaps, you fail as a melee".

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    It's crazy how hot-headed we can get on a forum. It doesn't really matter in the end. I apologize for "insulting" you or whatever. My response was meant to be cheeky and funny, not attacking. My post even ended with 'lol', but what's done is done I suppose.

    And also, Neo you're incorrect. I never posted anything in the salvage drop thread concerning you. I just checked and I've never responded to anything you've said there as far as I can tell. So that makes the gear swap thread, and then this thread, where I wasn't having a debate, and there is no such thing as a "winner" and a "loser". It's really not that black-and-white as you seem to think. In our PMs I told you I respected you as a person, but you pretty much disrespected me beyond belief in this thread so hats off to you. I hope you feel better about yourself in the morning and good luck on your Burtgang. I am in no way bitter about this, nor have I ever been.

    On topic: Is anyone considering Conqueror still? The berserk augment still kinda makes it seem worthwhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albatross View Post
    It's not about holding hate, it's about optimizing your performance. Don't try and justify the laziness of non-blinking PLDs.
    If they hold hate, they hold hate. Nothing to argue about that. If they hold hate by killing a baby, Blinking like a christmass tree or simply having a good timing doesnt matter to me. Saying a none-blinking PLD is lazy or worse than a blinking PLD is bs.

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    Oh god the entertainment

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    The mods removed them all in the salvage drop thread. But we can end anything here. The thread is pretty much completely derailed between gear swaps, personal insults, and people bitching about other people bitching about other people bitching.

    Im still going to finish burtgang, I'll just end up doing Excal as well now.

    @ Niki, we can talk about this offline or in game. I would say that any melee that isnt challenging their tanks for hate should probably be removed from the shell. Ill talk to ya in game later about it, but Im sure we have different opinions.

    Just because your melees are smart enough to know how to watch hate and walk the line, doesnt mean that they cant push the limits more if your tanks upped their threshold.

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