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  1. #41
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    People at fanfest were given all characters with double attack in some form or another already. People said only at level 3 aftermath did they see the double attack ratio go up really high on the glanzfaust but they thought the weapon was broken BECAUSE it did not give the mnk an attack bonus at level 3 aftermath, just a very high increase in Double attack.

    This is from someone who used mnk at fanfest from the alla forums.
    So it is indeed most likely the same for all the weapons.
    A mnk saving 300 TP for a crappy WS, instead of doing 3 asuran fists or a super omg dragon kick is at 300 TP instead is going to hurt DoT bad. I always felt sceptical about the 96 delay on the weapon but thought it was balanced due to the fact that you get Acc AND attk AND double attack... but we were wrong.
    And still the heavyweight champion of the world, Destroyers! (raises hand).

    guess the dynamis weapons are truly better.
    Funny cause I joked around and called excaliber stupid and tried to hype up burtgang, But it turns out the burtgang actually is not as good as i thought, BUT, this weapon is all about its stats not its aftermath, so you picked a good weapon to upgrade.
    Something like mnk, which was dependant on nothing but its aftermath is a huge let-down. Guns are easier to store to 300 TP, so I maybe wanna see a ranged weapon get upgraded next, maybe the level 3 aftermath can at least work on barrage, and the actual weapon also helps its acc I believe. (crossbow).

    Tizona convert stats still look good though I wanna see how that one works out. This is another weapon that the converts MP is what stands out the most, not the aftermath of it. PUP suppresses overload and has martial arts... but what does mnk get? Their weapon revolved around aftermath, I feel bad for you Alm, but continue your journey anyway and complete it, I'm sure the final cutscene will still feel good knowing that you beat a hard quest.

    Dynamis weapons should still get buffed anyway just for the hell of it.. fuck this.

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    I still fail to see why anyone would upgrade Burtgang unless they already have Excalibur, with the information provided. I could see it being situationally useful.. But in general, uhh?

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    -4 perp cost is still sexy to me. It means Fenrir costs 1...

    And free Fenrir is about as close to a SMN orgasm as I can get.

    Hopefully everyone will give up on them now so I can have a hope of obtaining one... in my dreams... <_<

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    Sure would be nice if they didn't tie some of these weren't tied to shitty WS's. :\

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtype954 View Post
    Tizona convert stats still look good though I wanna see how that one works out. This is another weapon that the converts MP is what stands out the most, not the aftermath of it.
    Yeah but if it ends up only converting a % of damage to MP and only a small percentage of the time, then I just don't see that being a great BLU weapon. A lot of BLU's are counting on the "Occasionally Attacks Twice" but if you have to save up 300% TP for that then it just seems worthless to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TummieGaruda View Post
    Yeah but if it ends up only converting a % of damage to MP and only a small percentage of the time, then I just don't see that being a great BLU weapon. A lot of BLU's are counting on the "Occasionally Attacks Twice" but if you have to save up 300% TP for that then it just seems worthless to me.
    no shit.. most blus solo practically everything and don't get used in hnms except for sa cb so saving up 300% tp even for something like jailer weapon da is pointless.

    fuck mythics just get a guttler

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    The weak power of mythics makes it seem less likely for a relic (or rather relic WS) buff now that I think about it. That's too bad.

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    this information makes me really consider not playing endgame anymore o_o

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    Seeing how it would be the second time he did it; yes, I would.
    Yeah, I didn't want to be the one to bring that up.

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    Classic SE...Create shit that's not better than ROZ items.. If u have all your ROZ stuff u beat the game..I really thought a MMORPG was all about progress. I never thought you would stop at a level and just be done..I really thought it would be like the single player game where u can reach 9999 hp.. What a failure...

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    Interesting, still shouldn't phase any pld from upgrading, unless... you don't have an aegis, in which case in my mind its basically a toss up between funding dynamis, (in turn a chearper relic path) or buying alex's for a combo enmity/haute sword.

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    Wow... that's a huge letdown for a lot of Mythics. Sure Burtgang would be hot for the +10 Enmity/Physical Damage Reduction. But some weapons look like a total waste now. I'm looking at you Death Penilty unless you put my QD up to the 500s!

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    Dear S.E.,

    Fuck you, Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you, fuck you fuck you fuck you, fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you, fucking peice of, fuck you, son of a, fuck you!


    Sincerly,

    The playerbase.

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    The way i wrote that made it seem like blu doesn't need the double attack effect.
    Yes, the double attack effect is VERY important to blues indeed, They don't get ridill, justice sword, or joytoy, so i was happy for them that this weapon seemed to finally give them double attack. It is a disappointment to get shafted, but at least they have MP conversion. (Is how I should have rewrote it)

    mnk and blm already got the shittiest Augments you can probably think of (even though they haven't been tested so good), So the aftermath was the mnks only hope.
    Blm had no hope lol, their augment sucks and their aftermath would have always sucked even if they got acc/attack and double attack at the same time for 10 mins lol.
    Every other weapon seems to be good even though the aftermath isn't as great as ppl thought. Death Penalty on the other hand, You get Racc OR Rattk OR double dmg... That put martial gun back on the top for me, rather do slug slots at 100 TP with the martial gun and spam with merc kris, then spam leaden salutes. (which i could probably land some slug slugs before the level 1 aftermath wore off, but for all the the damn effort, why not just get a damn martial gun instead)

    Since the game is coming to end one day, seemingly soon (1-3 yrs), why not make it more accessible to more ppl (but stilll rare and hard to obtain), Make the alexandrite requirement 10k, and let ppl enjoy some new weapons before its time to hang up the boots.

    I see more level 75 plds WITH an aegis shield these days then lvl 75 pld withOUT an aegis, It didn't break the server, ppl still play, and ppl still wipe to things.

    sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skjie View Post
    If this turns out to be true across the mythics, would you blame him?
    If it turns out to be the key to beating PW, would you not upgrade it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    If it turns out to be the key to beating PW, would you not upgrade it?
    this is the stupidest thing i have read all week

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    'Aight now we know they're weaker than normal relics, make 'em easier to get than relics pls SE <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohaigaiz View Post
    this is the stupidest thing i have read all week
    And it's only 1:30 AM CST! :O

    Honestly though, I do hope SE will pull their head out of their ass one day with this whole "Spend a sh*tload of time for a single piece of gear" logic they got.

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