Mythic Weapon Information (Page1 - hot new info!)

[Ahnuld]

I just died a little

I just cried a little.

[Dohorehn]

Ok. Show of hands. Who isn't disappointed? I think most of the disdain for these weapons comes from the fact that, as Jackyl has mentioned, they aren't very meripo friendly. That being said, most, if not all of the weapons are still worth it. (if you're willing to sell your soul to Aht Urghan, that is)

[Neosutra]

k.

[Sho]

I just cried a little.

I just whhhhhhhhhhhhhy'd? a little.

(Still gonna do Tizona in the somewhat distant future-- but it's not some "omg" agenda anymore)

[Zim]

I'm not disappointed.

As someone in my linkshell noted last night - Relic Weapons are melee-oriented. Mythic Weapons are mage-oriented.

Unless you're a bard, then you're just a bitch.

[Lyramion]

Ok. Show of hands. Who isn't disappointed?

/

[Charismatic]

Okay... show of tits, how many of the females on the forums are disappointed?

*crosses fingers*

[Neosutra]

/

Thats mostly because you had nothing to be dissapointed in. The katana sucked balls before. It sux more balls now.

Enjoy doing 50 more damage every 2 hours on your mijin.

[Xanthe]

Thats mostly because you had nothing to be dissapointed in. The katana sucked balls before. It sux more balls now.

Enjoy doing 50 more damage every 2 hours on your mijin.

When you've got nothing else left to work for, who cares? Lyra literally has it all and a bag of chips.

[ringthree]

How did no one notice this at fanfest?

How did no one notice their aftermath didnt stack when they were spamming TPs?

Please tell me this is a cruel joke that jackyl is playing in order to lower the price of alex so they can buy more cheaply. PLEASE tell me that.

I did what testing I could, and it was with the MNK weapon and we were subbing /WAR. It was hard to tell if the DA's were because of /WAR or MNK and that is why I suggested that it got stronger with more TP. At 300TP it was like every round for MNK. Others hard noticed that the attack bonus did not appear all the time.

So people did say this information, they just didn't have the time to do enough testing to come the the conclusions that we see now.

There are some weapons where aftermath isn't really going to matter, like Burtgang and others, so it's not like people won't stop trying to get them.

[Charismatic]

Burtgang's aftermath mattered to me :/
(Not that I'll ever have one, but it was nice to dream.)

[Neosutra]

Without the aftermath bonuses Burtgang is a Haut+1, a very good sword, but NOT relic material. For an Aegis pld you are already capped on magic damage taken, and pld/nin this sword functions as an emnity boost device that will actually HURT your ability to keep hate due to gaining TP significantly slower than joytoy (since atonement spam is just too amazing now). For pld/war, I could see the emnity lost from doing less Atonements with joytoy being balanced via the damage taken and reduced emnity lost on physical hit, but barely.

This is tragic. This isnt a relic, this is a really good HNM drop, and a situational one at best.

And at the comment about Lyramin having everything: Level another job then. Dont waste anymore gil on a fail weapon you KNOW you will never use. But whatever, your gil. Your time. Your enhanced Mijin.

[Jackyl]

Good morning! Did a little more testing.. I was slightly mistaken about the Aftermath effect at Lv1. Lv1 Aftermath DOES overwrite/renew Lv1 Aftermath. So you can spam WS at 100tp and keep up Lv1 AM forever. However, Lv2 and Lv3 AM cannot be overwritten/renewed.

I tried a few different scenarios such as starting with Lv3 then doing Lv2 and Lv1 after within the 2mins to see if that would make the Lv3 AM last longer but it didn't. Kaeko sent me some instructions on how to test the enmity down effect so I'll try that later when the servers come back up.

I guess I'll have to wait until after the maintenance to check the palace door as well to see if I can complete the final quest.

[Not Kuno]

Good morning! Did a little more testing.. I was slightly mistaken about the Aftermath effect at Lv1. Lv1 Aftermath DOES overwrite/renew Lv1 Aftermath. So you can spam WS at 100tp and keep up Lv1 AM forever. However, Lv2 and Lv3 AM cannot be overwritten/renewed.

I tried a few different scenarios such as starting with Lv3 then doing Lv2 and Lv1 after within the 2mins to see if that would make the Lv3 AM last longer but it didn't. Kaeko sent me some instructions on how to test the enmity down effect so I'll try that later when the servers come back up.

I guess I'll have to wait until after the maintenance to check the palace door as well to see if I can complete the final quest.

Nice find, although that is very strange. At least now you can spam 100% and it won't be that bad? :/

[Lyramion]

Thats mostly because you had nothing to be dissapointed in. The katana sucked balls before. It sux more balls now.

Enjoy doing 50 more damage every 2 hours on your mijin.

Alex prices went down a little! What a great day!

[ringthree]

Without the aftermath bonuses Burtgang is a Haut+1, a very good sword, but NOT relic material. For an Aegis pld you are already capped on magic damage taken, and pld/nin this sword functions as an emnity boost device that will actually HURT your ability to keep hate due to gaining TP significantly slower than joytoy (since atonement spam is just too amazing now). For pld/war, I could see the emnity lost from doing less Atonements with joytoy being balanced via the damage taken and reduced emnity lost on physical hit, but barely.

This is tragic. This isnt a relic, this is a really good HNM drop.

Your logic barely works, I hardly think Atonement spam will overcome the stats on that weapon.

Anyway, I wonder why after years of seeing slight upgrades in gears people always expect the next mysterious piece of gear to be a game-breaker?

Do you think that when you finally get your Usu body that Altana is going to bend over and have angels singing out of her ass?

The outrage and QQing is basically your fault for expecting something that was never promised. You are like a child at Christmas wondering why Santa didn't bring you a pony...

[Destinye]

Mythic/Vigil/whatever they're called were considered Relic weapons? Thought they said these were to be something completely different in design..oh well, we get it..you're disappointed and want to quit...why harbor on it? Were you really close to completing it or something?


Either way, that does seem weird..wonder what they had in mind when designing these weapons lol. Well can't wait to hear the final results.

[Stiker]

Without the aftermath bonuses Burtgang is a Haut+1, a very good sword, but NOT relic material. For an Aegis pld you are already capped on magic damage taken, and pld/nin this sword functions as an emnity boost device that will actually HURT your ability to keep hate due to gaining TP significantly slower than joytoy (since atonement spam is just too amazing now). For pld/war, I could see the emnity lost from doing less Atonements with joytoy being balanced via the damage taken and reduced emnity lost on physical hit, but barely.

This is tragic. This isnt a relic, this is a really good HNM drop, and a situational one at best.

Pretty much. Spamming Atonement with a regular NM drop being far, far better than a Mythic is just horrible considering the amount of time comparatively you would spend on getting both.

Best situational use for Burtgang is really off-tanking in Dynamis or Einherjar, or tanking mobs that you won't melee as a tank (Ouryu, JoL off the top of my head). Otherwise, I don't see why you wouldn't be trying to spam Atonement instead.

[Neosutra]

Fuck off ringthree, you have no idea what you are talking about.

"Expecting things I was never promised".

Im sorry, I didnt know I was the only person expecting acc/att/DA on the aftermath LIKE IT FUCKING SAYS in the descript.

YOUR logic fails. If you dont see the loss in emnity from atonement spam (which is fucking amazing) from switching from a 50% DA joytoy to a high delay weapon with a bit of acc, then you are blind. Pld/nin will see virtually no use out of the emnity loss during physical damage taken, and pld/war would still spam more atonement via joytoy.

I didnt want 100 acc 100 attack and 100% DA on aftermath, but fuck me dont laugh in our faces and play a translation error that is the difference between making these weapons utter shit and amazing.

[Attila]

Good morning! Did a little more testing.. I was slightly mistaken about the Aftermath effect at Lv1. Lv1 Aftermath DOES overwrite/renew Lv1 Aftermath. So you can spam WS at 100tp and keep up Lv1 AM forever. However, Lv2 and Lv3 AM cannot be overwritten/renewed.

I tried a few different scenarios such as starting with Lv3 then doing Lv2 and Lv1 after within the 2mins to see if that would make the Lv3 AM last longer but it didn't. Kaeko sent me some instructions on how to test the enmity down effect so I'll try that later when the servers come back up.

I guess I'll have to wait until after the maintenance to check the palace door as well to see if I can complete the final quest.

That seems odd that you can refresh the lvl 1, but not the higher ones...

No reason you shouldn't be able to do 2 > 2 > ....

I GUESS I can understand not stepping down though.