MMM findings

[HarleyM]

I was able to get the most basic title (Explorer i believe?) for 10 marbles. Didn't use the marbles on it though. Does everyone not yet have access to this?

[fusionx]

Has anyone bought a new tabula yet? Curious how runes are shared between tabula if you have more than one, and if it opens up access to new vouchers.

I got a new tabula today, you can still use your runes on it they're accessible when you "use" the new tabula

[Kimiko]

You can't buy titles.

Indeed, their listed in the shop, but when I went to look them up the moblin mentions something about getting more experience in the mazes. Could be # of runs within the mazes, or some other caculation needed.

Also, I have a video up of one our maze runs (before it got terribly overcrowded in JP prime time). Link for it is here:
Moblin Maze Mongers - A Night In The Maze

Also, a few new observations I've noticed:
1) Mobs linking regardless of type. I noticed this several times while pulling elementals where they will link to each other as per normal mobs (Nyzul like linking/aggro rules perhaps?)

2) Speaking of aggro, noticed that elementals do not magic aggro here (was well within their detection range when casting, but they didn't come after me)

3) Noted items from the Forcer box:
- Elixer
- Mana Powder
- Remedy

[EdgeMoragan]

I've begun bringing level 1 mules to scale the mobs to TW as I don't care about standard drops. This doesn't actually seem to affect the end-chest droprate, which remains around 20%. My friend and I rotated our Jeuno mules, then vited more friends and rotated those along with our own Tabula's. I didn't record everything exactly but in well around 20 runs we managed to see a total of 5 Rune Drops, one of which was double so 6 runes total.

I'm ready to test out this Demon Rune tomorrow <,<. It cannot be placed down on the M1 Tabula with Liquidation voucher, but can be placed on it for the normal voucher.

[HarleyM]

In my experience elementals do aggro to magic. Would think you could also just change to a Lv1 job instead of bringing a mule.

[LD]

MMM Elementals absolutely argo magic, but what I've found is their detection range is smaller than normal elementals and arcana.

[Gwynplaine]

I wasn't sure I'd be able to enter, but luckily everyone agreed to help pay. So we just collected 30 gil for everyone to cover the entrance fee.
Anyways, first run had 6 pink birds and 6 marlboro for 572 lmits and 15 marbles. Rune 045 "elemental magic" in chest. At first with 4 players.

2nd run, 6 peryton and 6 doomed, for 658 and 15 marbles this time with 5 players onward.

3rd, marlboros and and staff skeletons, for 568 and 15 balls.

4th, Taurs and scythe skeletons, for 613 and 15 this time with 6 players onward.

5th, Wind Elementals and Taurs for 578 and 15.

6th, Fire Elementals and slimes for 514 and 15.

Sometimes the Forcer is large, sometimes small, no idea why.

[Shamaya]

Dark hands prevent you from entering.

Not instanced?

The ultimate cock block. Just moments from entering and someone shoots their hand out right in the way.

About what some were saying, 2 things of note:
*The level of the individual entering affects the level of the mobs inside.
*The level of the mobs inside does not seem to have an effect on marbles or rune drops, but does affect exp.

I did about 9 runs last night and got we got 3 runes. 2 of those runes for when level 30 players entered us in. Everything was extremely weak; would die in a few hits. At the end we got 15 marbles and 0exp. So if people just want to farm some quick marbles the best thing to do is go with a group and rotate people entering on low level jobs. Liquidation would probably be the fastest since it's just one mob. And a few more tidbits:

*One of us noticed that having an emp. band on increased the amount of exp he would normally get from a chest.
*And I can second to the linking behavior. We had skellies link which usually does not happen. As for ele's and aggro, I think I do remember one of us getting magic aggro.
*Liquidation NM mobs seem to have a large true-sound aggro range, maybe about 15'.

[benny]

Sometimes the Forcer is large, sometimes small, no idea why.

Maybe someone can give counter-evidence, but I thought it was large when the first mob family is large (e.g. malboros) and small when the first family is small (e.g. mandies)

[Lilswitche]

Maybe someone can give counter-evidence, but I thought it was large when the first mob family is large (e.g. malboros) and small when the first family is small (e.g. mandies)

I noticed this today with Molboro's as the first set of mobs.

We just did a liquidation voucher with divine magic on it, got a light ele. 11 marbles and 200 some odd exp.

Tried synthesis as well. From the chest we got Surpreme might and enfeebling with 35 marbles.

[Suiram]

Did two Voucher 07 runs today. Both done on firesday, both fought Flamma, a fire elemental. Based on this and the screenshots above (Thunder Ele on Lightningsday), the NM elemental that spawns normally (assuming you can make it some other mob with certain runes) is based on the day of the week you enter?

First one dropped Rune 011 "Dragons", which doesn't work in Voucher 07 but does work in Voucher 01. Second run was my Tabula, and I set the 040 "Altered Defense" I got last night, and it didn't seem to make any noticeable difference.

We might want to start a comprehensive list of which Runes work with which Vouchers and Tabulae, once people have them all and a few runes. Any chance of this getting its own subforum?

[Velecic]

I've begun bringing level 1 mules to scale the mobs to TW as I don't care about standard drops. This doesn't actually seem to affect the end-chest droprate, which remains around 20%.

The goblin won't give my mule the items ; ; He says:

"Hmm. so ye want t'order a maze, do ye?
Sorry, but our mazes aren't fer you greenhorn types.
Come back when ye've seen more of the world why don't ye?"

Your mules are lvl 1? Maybe it has to do with playtime? I think mine are really low cuz I log them off most of the time, gonna try with mule that haz bazaared so has more playtime.

EDIT : It's not playtime, bazaar mule has 51+ days on him, and still no go. Must be a fame or mission requirement.
EDIT 2 : Friend's son's char can't get either, 14 days playtime, lvl 31, rank 3, unknown jeuno fame.
EDIT 3 : Other friend's mule on SAME account as his main got item, ~3 days playtime, rank 1, lvl 7. no jeuno fame.

Appears to be related to main account date or something, can anyone confirm / deny? I was hopeful I'd be able to use my jeuno mules ; ; but apparently can't because it's on a separate account.

[Andri]

I am pretty sure you need the Wings of the Goddess expansion to do the event. Does your mule have that registered (assuming it's not on the same account as your main)?

[Velecic]

Thanks Andri, that's what it is. Separate account, and nope, no WoTG. Boo ; ; no rune farming for me unless I want to spend money on the expansion for my mule account PURELY for MMM, which I don't think I want to do lol.

[Kimiko]

I think it's a playtime issue, our BLU was able to get his stuff on a level 1 Galka mule w/ zero fame (rank 1 windurst)

[Velecic]

So, to the best of my knowledge, what we could figure out tonight in our 7 runs was the following.

All were Voucher 01, which is 2 mob types, somewhat random but we got 1/2 elementals quite a few times, and double eles once.

Rune 10X appears to be usable on any Voucher inside Tabula M01, and grants the following effects :

106 : maze marble, allowing you to see how many mobs remain
109 : items one, allows you to purchase items frome the moblin at start

Removing the above runes from your voucher would result in losing those effects (we tested this)

01X appears to be usable on Voucher 01, I presume this will remain the same for all other Tabulas, 04X goes with Voucher 04 etc etc, you cannot set 04X on Voucher 01.
I obtained 011 (dragons) and used it, and was able to set it on Voucher 01. Can't test it because I had already done my run but I presume it raises the chances / guarantees you get to fight dragon type mobs. That's all I can think of right now, we didn't spend marbles or try any of the other types yet, hope this helps a few people out ^^

[GaelWanderling]

Ok so my team and I have been attempting to find out about this Voucher.. we're 0/3 all time outs.. things we have found out.

Peistes drop leathers, Bones drop bones (ofcourselol), slugs drop nuggets, crabs and krakens drop liquids and flytraps drop logs.

We've also come across opo-opos, rafflesias, lizards and spiders; We've yet to get a skill up off crafting and well to be honest gathering materials for this maze is brutal mobs have low HP but incredebly high attack, also it seems the crafted items asked for by the moblin is based off the leaders highest craft skill level.

[LD]

Elemental Magic doesn't work with Voucher 01, probably works with 07

[Septimus]

Does anyone have an accurate listing of the maze runes? Several of the ones offered at the shop do not match up to the .dats.

I'm still looking. The vouchers, tabula, and runes are not in with the regular item data, I suspect that they are their own special table system like puppet items, but I have been up and down the dat files trying to find a listing with them in it and haven't turned up anything with all of it yet.

Anyone who is good with dats and finds anything, please send me a PM with the location that you found (and if there is anything special required to make it Pebble's friendly), this stuff is starting to drive me nuts. Yet I will continue to search. >_<

[Midnightjade]

Tried this last night with the LS, and despite my earlier whining it was really a lot of fun.

I took a look at the stuff on offer from the NPC afterwards, and there are a ton of runes/vouchers for sale, the whole system looks like it's going to be very flexible. As mentioned in the above posts, some of them have numbers that don't match the list in the other thread - is that just a numbering issue or has the system been expanded since Fanfest?

Anyhow, depending on the rewards it looks like this might take the place of Assault/Nyzul for a while in our LS.